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Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,020
    More likely it is a cancellation of an order, or a reply to "can I buy this set".
  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,846
    Lego must love it that all they have to do is get rid of old lines at full retail price is to state "retiring soon".

  • nkx1nkx1 Member Posts: 719
    ^Ha ha, good point. Although I'm assuming the tactic works best on AFOL-oriented/exclusive sets much better than the more common sets.
  • drlmiles1drlmiles1 UKMember Posts: 179
    Lego Discovery Centre in Manchester had a GE on the shelf this evening (which I didn't buy, as I already have one). No TH, though.
  • wagnerml2wagnerml2 Belleville, IllinoisMember Posts: 1,376

    Lego must love it that all they have to do is get rid of old lines at full retail price is to state "retiring soon".

    true...but it Didn't work for Cars....Probably won't work for Chima.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants DFWMember Posts: 5,943
    enotoga said:

    a new plan to lure JT into the Melting Room.

    Are you seriously attempting to continue this?

    Pitfall69
  • 12651265 Member Posts: 946

    enotoga said:

    a new plan to lure JT into the Melting Room.

    Are you seriously attempting to continue this?

    Wondering how this will turn out.
    JamesJTPitfall69
  • wrangler6915wrangler6915 USA - Lincoln NEMember Posts: 502
    ^bravo
    mdelleman
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Pitfall69 said:

    Great, now nobody will ever have anything to say to me ;)

    Nice Pitfall, kind Pitfall, everyone like the nice kind Pitfall... :)
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    edited November 2014
    I click "Like" on ALL of Pitfall's comments. I think that makes him happy. :-) Hummmm.... He isn't running for an elective office is he? Just wondering if he's using this forum as practice on being liked by others. "Today the forum. Tomorrow the governorship!" :-) (Maybe the governor of TX! he he) I would have said 'congress', but who wants to be in congress? Not me! And, that president gig. Way overrated! :-)
    Ronyar
  • RonyarRonyar Member Posts: 365
    @Pitfall69 -All "sniffing My Little Pony" comments are compliments to your delicate and refined olfactory senses! ;) (Don't ban me bro)
  • MojoestMojoest UKMember Posts: 474
    drlmiles1 said:

    Lego Discovery Centre in Manchester had a GE on the shelf this evening (which I didn't buy, as I already have one). No TH, though.

    And I was there as someone bought it this lunchtime (I have one too, but had gone in to see if they had a TH). Managed to get a TH via Lego CS earlier though hopefully, (order placed but will wait for it to actually arrive).
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    The Force Awakens - SW movie official name. I wonder how long it takes Lego to capitalize on new vehicles and personalities once they appear in a movie. I mean - is there any benefit to having a SW licensing agreement in terms of getting new products to market faster. For example - an awesome new ship debuts in the movie and has a huge impact on the fans and story line. You want to have that ship on the shelves immediately.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited November 2014
    ^Basically the Force has been asleep since Episode I was released...well, at least I was while watching the movies.
    Pitfall69gmonkey76
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,242
    enotoga said:

    The Force Awakens - SW movie official name. I wonder how long it takes Lego to capitalize on new vehicles and personalities once they appear in a movie. I mean - is there any benefit to having a SW licensing agreement in terms of getting new products to market faster. For example - an awesome new ship debuts in the movie and has a huge impact on the fans and story line. You want to have that ship on the shelves immediately.

    From what was deduced regarding the Hobbit stuff and when sets were released compared to the movies and that it appeared the 3 movie decision was made after LEGO got their information I would say that LEGO probably already has character info and ship designs to work from for their first release and will probably be out before the first movie as with other themes.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,878
    Lego seems to be all over the place with movie tie-ins (not related to their own films). Sometimes they are early, and sometimes late.
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    edited November 2014
    Lego must have some big excitement in store for us (no pun). At this time last year we had pictures of both Parisian Restaurant and Maersk Triple-E, ahead of their availability on Jan 1, 2014. This year, the only thing I'm looking forward to (so far) is part II of the workshop scene on BF Weekend.

    I need some pics of the Detective Agency! And they must have a surprise exclusive getting ready to launch too, having killed production on HH, TH, and GE.
  • MathBuilderMathBuilder Member Posts: 150
    cloaked7 said:

    I click "Like" on ALL of Pitfall's comments. I think that makes him happy. :-) Hummmm.... He isn't running for an elective office is he? Just wondering if he's using this forum as practice on being liked by others. "Today the forum. Tomorrow the governorship!" :-) (Maybe the governor of TX! he he) I would have said 'congress', but who wants to be in congress? Not me! And, that president gig. Way overrated! :-)

    Well, Jar Jar made it to the galactic senate...
    jasorDougout
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,878
    enotoga said:

    Lego must have some big excitement in store for us (no pun). At this time last year we had pictures of both Parisian Restaurant and Maersk Triple-E, ahead of their availability on Jan 1, 2014. This year, the only thing I'm looking forward to (so far) is part II of the workshop scene on BF Weekend.

    I need some pics of the Detective Agency! And they must have a surprise exclusive getting ready to launch too, having killed production on HH, TH, and GE.

    Not with modulars I don't think. PS, PC, PR + DA will be plenty for people to choose from.

  • jasorjasor United StatesMember Posts: 839
    I can see PS becoming the next FB....not in archival value, but in production run. Depending on DA, and all the rumors surrounding it....PS is the single release with two smaller footprint buildings. It's a draw for kids with all the pets, and sets itself apart from the others in it's diversity. No one says you have to have both together on your street, and that really varies the possibilities on layouts.

    I can see PC going out before PS. Not going to call it yet, but I can see the plausibility.
    ThirdBuckEyeminicoopers11
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,954
    Okay... Diagon Alley is what I keep reading each time I read DA.

    Lego should know better than to create sets with the same initials. ;-)
    RennyLegoManiaccmadforLEGOdougtsLegoKipminicoopers11
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,242
    I thought we were going with DeA? =)
    ThirdBuckEye
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,954
    OMG! LOL!! ^ Hilarious!!
    Pitfall69MathBuilder
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    edited November 2014
    Yep, I can see PC doing an early exit. I've never liked the Mann's Chinese Theater look. Would have preferred a NYC Broadway look. PS on the other hand, is the height of the NYC row house look that all the AFOL's grew up with. Nobody ever get's sick of Sesame St.
  • pcironepcirone Long Island, NYMember Posts: 346
    Just don't tell the MS... she gets pissed.
    LegoFanTexasPitfall69ThirdBuckEye
  • LegoManiaccLegoManiacc Member Posts: 116
    That was PRetty much eGGsellent, GEntlemen.
    Pitfall69
  • vaspvasp USAMember Posts: 73
    toysrus.com has 42025 at a decent discount of $40 off regular tru price or $30 off TLG price
    MathBuilder
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    Here's a question from some you who have been around a little bit. The new Volvo Front Loader. At first this set didn't catch my attention or interest at $250. However, I'm impressed with the prices some of the old Technic sets are getting. I also didn't notice the Volvo branding at first, but this is the first Volvo branded set, I think. What do you think about this set as an investment. We may end up with a fleet of largish Volvo machines over the next 5-10 years, and my thought is that this first model, if it retires in 12-24 months after launch, could be a winner. Or do you think it's destined to be a sleeper.
  • TechnicNickTechnicNick Berkshire, UKMember Posts: 277
    ^ The performance of #8110 Mercedes Unimog should be your guide.
  • BrickarmorBrickarmor USAMember Posts: 1,257
    Ooh, not bad... I want. But I'm gonna hold out for a bit more. Tis the season and such.
  • MathBuilderMathBuilder Member Posts: 150
    vasp said:

    toysrus.com has 42025 at a decent discount of $40 off regular tru price or $30 off TLG price

    Can not see it. Did you use a coupon code or special listing?

  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,433
    vasp said:

    toysrus.com has 42025 at a decent discount of $40 off regular tru price or $30 off TLG price

    That is pretty good, but with BF and Cyber Monday around the corner Im going to have to hold off any 'awesome' deals for the moment because Cyber Monday on Amazon was crazy last year.
  • MathBuilderMathBuilder Member Posts: 150
    Too late to edit. Still showing full inflated TRU price on TRU.com but I was able to get it for $101.99 on tru-ebay.

    I really wanted that plane for building since a long time ago but was holding for a discount. I know there will be many deals on BF but who knows on what.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,433
    enotoga said:

    Here's a question from some you who have been around a little bit. The new Volvo Front Loader. At first this set didn't catch my attention or interest at $250. However, I'm impressed with the prices some of the old Technic sets are getting. I also didn't notice the Volvo branding at first, but this is the first Volvo branded set, I think. What do you think about this set as an investment. We may end up with a fleet of largish Volvo machines over the next 5-10 years, and my thought is that this first model, if it retires in 12-24 months after launch, could be a winner. Or do you think it's destined to be a sleeper.

    ^ The performance of #8110 Mercedes Unimog should be your guide.

    I think the #8110 is a good parallel.
    I think about 6 years ago such a set would be a sleeper, but after the Remote controlled excavator (#8043) prices have been average for much of the EOL Technic IMO. Specifically the more expensive of the line as everyone seems to have the same idea that due to price these will be sought after they EOL.
    Will they go up? Likely, but they are pretty bulky to try to horde them IMO and with the prices the way have been for other EOL technic sets lately I think you may have to hold them for a while to really make it worth holding them. Remember you are also going to have massive speculation on these (and other 'money makers') with speculators/resellers that could buy a car, if not a house, with some one the money they are tying into LEGO these days. All of these people also have the means to under cut anyone trying to sell their 4 for a good profit, which means you either have to sell them relatively low if you want a quick return or wait for those big guys to clear out most of theirs at the low prices first (which can take some time, a lot more than 1-2 years anyway).
    That is one reason why I think the small/casual resellers will move on from LEGO: money will not be quick enough for them. Especially when the 'heavy hitters' that can buy 500 of a set can afford to only make 25-50 dollars per because they are flipping them fast to recoup most of their money buy selling half right away.
    As for those that buy to sell to supplant their income. Again, will need to weigh how much they want to store and how long due to this situation
    Kevin_Hyatt
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    I saw the TRU sale price on Cargo Plane, about $107 for in store pickup, but I hesitated and now it looks like it's gone. That didn't last long. I'll have to move quicker next time
  • enotogaenotoga Member Posts: 133
    All good points to consider. I looked at both the Ebay sales volume and price history for both Unimog and the last two mobile cranes that have retired. It almost looks as though if you can get the MKII mobile crane at a good discount, that might be a better option than the Volvo. Or what the heck - buy them both, but storage is always an issue as was stated.
  • vaspvasp USAMember Posts: 73
    They changed all the prices back to regular. Lots of stuff was marked down. Even their excl town center was down to the $80's. TRU ebay still shows 101.99
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,242
    ^ It is back to $149.99 now.
  • vaspvasp USAMember Posts: 73
    I got some orders in. Hopefully they will ship.
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    #7965 sold out on [email protected] US



  • rocaorocao Administrator Posts: 4,288
    This discussion was created from comments split from: Town Hall and Grand Emporium Retired!.
  • Pacific493Pacific493 Member Posts: 379
    edited November 2014
    JamesJT said:

    #7965 sold out on [email protected] US

    Still shows in stock for me.
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    My fault, sold out on [email protected] UK
  • stevemackstevemack 1567km Drive From BillundMember Posts: 899
    Is it definitely retiring this year?
  • legoboy1066legoboy1066 Member Posts: 130
    Is the VW Camper Van retiring?
  • jasonord69ajasonord69a UKMember Posts: 409
    JamesJT said:

    My fault, sold out on [email protected] UK

    About the third time in the last 6 months it has shown as sold out. It will be back once they have sorted out production backlogs.

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