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Still plenty of sets retiring this year that will bring nice coin down the road.....stay focused 2014 is going to be a memorable one and alot of stuff will disappear quickly and unexpectedly.
I would not say 'ripped off' If someone buys it for that price how did he rip anyone off? Interesting. Kinda unexpected as I figured they last until the fall.
Apparently too many people filling up trailers of them to bother posting.. Oh well.
With that said, if shipping costs were included with that $450 and then whatever ebay/paypal fees,... and if the Death Star is indeed retiring then you may have screwed yourself. So, so much for bragging rights, eh? ; )
If he sells it to a guy that decided to overpay from retail, HOW is that taking advantage of that person? Did he hold a gun to the guy's head and say 'Buy this used set for more than retail or Ill blow your head off?'
No, he put it up, someone bought it. Now, if the seller said this is the cheapest you will ever find it, I kind of understand your comments, but I do not believe the seller said this.
As for the contention the guy returns it and the seller is 'screwed': If the buyer does, I'm guessing they get pinged by eBay. The seller gets the set back to sell again once it DOES go EOL and makes more anyway.
Do I like it when people overpay for something? Not really, it just is silly IMO. However people do. I see it all the time on eBay with LEGO parts. It is what it is, I do not seller how this seller is evil or malicious in anyway, if fact the OP only was really asking if DS is done, not 'hey I just totally screwed this guy buying a used DS for 450'.
Plus where does this end? You start to sound like someone that buys an EOL set in box, and complains they paid 100 for an item that had a 39.99 price tag when new.
I ask him is it gone and he said yes. EOL must be soon on this.
Picked up a HH instead.
Of particular poor form is choosing not to share knowledge of sales, and then coming around later and boasting of it.
We are smack dab in the midst of the typical dead zone for good sales or clearances. July/August there will be some potential deals, but typically there is just not much posted around now.
The rabid hate for anyone who wanted to make a buck was so bad at one point that I left for a few months, as did a few others, some of those people never returned...
Look at how absurd the whole running 27% off thing became, and no one put a stop to it. Why would you expect someone who finds such deals to post them here after that treatment?
With that said, it doesn't bother me that much and that is why enjoy posting memes about it, but I'm sure there are people that do get very upset about people bragging about stuff like that.
That being said, the 27% thing should never have been allowed in this thread, this is (or was) supposed to be a safe place for resellers, and it was taken too far, IMHO...
I said a year ago that we needed a separate section of the forum for resellers, where it was safe to talk about money and profits and LEGO from a business point of view, so it was clear what was allowed where.
The lack of that has driven much of the good reseller information to other places.
It is always those doing the proper bashing that are begging for the info so that is the main reason I don't post much on this board anymore. As I said the 27% will get abused to death very quickly but it is there for those who know how to stack a number of discounts so that is why I mention it. Well GE is done so if you want one you better call you store and hope they will hold one for you. 2 down, 3 to go.
#10197 Firebrigade and
#10211 Grand Emporium
the 3 on the next list would be
#10221 Super Star Destroyer { or its part of the two above not sure because i keep hearing that there is another shipment coming to S&H }
#10188 Death Star
#10220 Volkswagen T1 Camper Van
#10214 Tower Bridge
Essentially stating that one can get 27% off of any exclusive whenever one wants comes across as braggadocio wrapped in hyperbole to boot. Is some of the sarcasm borne out of envy, of course it is. But it is also a healthy dose of skepticism. I think in general the 27% run was just silliness in general which this particular thread has in spades.
By the way, I was the one that apparently was being a bit "dickish" that day. Go figure?
There is not a single person here that hasn't benefited from sharing. So, anyone who makes the conscious decision to keep a fire sale to themselves has decided to take without giving back. period. That doesn't make you a super awesome savvy reseller - it makes you an a$$hole.
PS: the phrase "super awesome savvy reseller" is copyrighted by @CircleK 2014 - All Rights Reserved.
There's definitely an argument for some people always taking and never giving back (and I've made it before) but actually I've noticed @doriansdad giving some very solid advice about eBay and info about sets that are or are not retiring which will have helped many. Just saying its possible to get 27% might have helped a few work it out as well.
So all that suggests to me there was no need to shut down the 27% comments as the one person who could have taken offense seems to have actually been more involved not less.
That said it's a shame a good deal wasn't posted about here, although it always seemed the US deals threads were a little more hit and miss than the UK equivalent and they've been as strong as ever.
And rather than "hate for anyone who wanted to make a buck", I think it's much more accurate to say that it was criticism of the actions of those who seem willing to do anything to make a buck. The two instances that by far drew the most attention were situations where the person claimed to have played by the rules, and it was later revealed that not only had they circumvented the rules but they saw nothing wrong with their actions.
It's ironic that you say that those opposed to reselling caused resellers to leave. I hope you haven't lost sight of the fact that an entire segment of members that were very much the original core of the forum withdrew because the staff decided that reselling discussion had a place here. In the end, anyone's decision to withdraw is their own.
I have to call you out on your own hiatus though, because it sounds too much like you're painting yourself as a victim. I remember the environment during your absence was not inhospitable and was quite the opposite. The only messages posted about you were from people hoping you would return, which I imagine you read because your 'last active' time showed that you were visiting the forum daily for the entire duration of your martyrdom.
I'm very curious: are you able to even name one frequent deal poster that was driven away in what you describe as the reseller inquisition?
The lack of sharing is not a new phenomenon. When we made the "Buying and Selling" category viewable to members only, we had a huge surge in registrations from lurkers who had only taken from the community and not given anything back.
People surely have their reasons for not sharing. I think the leading reasons are a deeply-ingrained competitiveness, fear that their situation will worsen from collective awareness, and laziness. I just don't see 'fear of being labelled a reseller' very high on that list. The whole reason things came to a head was because resellers were unabashed, unashamed, and unapologetic, and not because they were shrinking violets. Do you realize that many of the people perpetuating the 27% are dyed-in-the-wool resellers? The 'absurdity' of 27% was the same thing that transpired previously with "Red 5 standing by" and "dickish" and pages and pages of the same movie quotes, all said in jest, and which you yourself have participated in on many occasions.
People were more conservative with their purchases of GE.