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Main reason for posting though is that when one of these stalwarts eventually departs, are we likely to see something else fill the sizeable gap? If they both depart then will the Sandcrawler not be the highest price set available?
Personally missed out on the UCS MF so wouldn't mind seeing another but what are the chances of TLG releasing another £350-400 set?
Plus with the LEGO movie and Benny it seems that the old Classic Space is having a resurgence lately. I have seen sets that barely sold for 50 dollars now going from 100-150. Will be interesting once the Spaceship is released.
Also with constant reminders of LEGO I think you are starting to see fathers and mothers wanting to relive those days. (Especially after that LEGO Simpsons episode-As an aside I think the LEGO characters in the episode were better than the actual CMF and set figures IMO)
Is Classic Space and Town like like a Cafe Corner? No, of course not. But there are markets, even for older 80's sets.
When I got out of my dark ages I wanted to finish a Classic town collection. Now I can say I'm not the only one, because I see those sets going for decent money on eBay.
You can also knock SW out of this discussion. Face it, LEGO has constantly replaced almost all of the original sets with (most are) newer improved versions. So of course that will affect values.
But I still see LEGO 1490 Banks sold for a lot and sell even though there are two other banks available for far less. Again why? By all accounts the #3661 is 'better' with newer parts. for some it is also about the chase for that rare set.
Again supply and demand. If there is a demand and supplies are low, there will be a market
Some resellers are stopping at the exclusive ban, but there will be people that will still buy for the 'additional 25 dollars'.
But considering you hear people on this very site saying they will stop, and by accounts they are decently large resellers, I think it can be said you will see less people trying to resell LEGO, at least the Exclusives, which will lessen available stocks in the after market.
Mainly because for those people it is truly about overhead. Buying 1 for full cost is no biggie, but if they are buying 20-30 of them it adds up quick Id imagine.
1. Sandcrawler doesn't come with booklets, it comes with a mega book like the huge sets do.
2. SSD is done. Don't start throwing rocks, but I have been told by a few employees that it is retired and all my local stores say they are done getting stock. It's also gone from online retailers in the US.
3. It is $300. Taking Lego's new apparent stance on more affordable play sets vs big models I would say Lego thinks a $300 set that is more like a play set will sell a lot better than a $400 set that is more like a model.
Only 3 reasons I have so far, I think they make sense though.
The only thing I wonder is if the DS goes too at the end of the year what could possibly replace it. A new UCS MF maybe?
As soon as one exclusive set comes out, there always seems to be fresh news of another exclusive set To be released.
There are just so many coming out now that its hard to get excited anymore by them unless they really stand out from the rest, part of the reason why i was so disappointed with the fairground set.
1) minifigures. LEGO has (unfortunately) become all about the 'fig, more often than not at the expense of the build.
2) No doubt those of us who like to display models are a pretty small minority. If they can get us all to buy the huge playsets anyway (which most of us will), but they can pull in the non-display fans as well, then it's a no brainer.
I see a more detailed System MF with minifigures related to the new movie or OT. You will have the MF and possibly some small buildings to go with it. Maybe bits of the hanger bay at Hoth with Imperial Snowtroopers for example.
Would have been a lot trickier to get the front-end angles just right, and the finish wouldn't have matched the body (studs vs SNOT) unless they'd extensively tiled the plated front end. Would have been doable, but maybe for 500 more pieces that also pushed the average piece weight right up. The ramp and the flappable body sides could have been constructed in a similar way that the IS wings were, to maintain strength and still have the SNOT look.
I do like the Sandcrawler I have, for it's shape - but i'm also envious of the flawless SNOT mocs out there.
With a similar approach to UCS sets in the future, I think that any new "UCS" MF kit is going to be no more than 4000 pieces and be 2/3 the size of the old one as a result. This probably won't impact the starfighters and ships/vehicles no bigger than the IS (who would have wanted an X-wing twice as long/wide/high as the #10240?), but for the bigger sets scaled down considerably for Lego, they will probably suffer.
In order to appeal to the upper end of the play market as well as the display biased AFOL, the finished article will have to be pretty robust and possibly swooshable - no more sets where something will fall off as soon as you look at it the wrong way.
"Daaaamn Baby... You are finer than a flawless SNOT moc".
If someone is buying 2 FB at RRP that is one thing.
If people are buying 50 of them to make only 50-100, for example, then that 25% adds up IMO.
That discount also means that he could sell them for less than what they are typical going for to make a quicker profit than holding them for longer.
I believe LFT and other resellers have said in the past they do not want to hold onto sets for a long period of time as they do also take up space.
So will there be a bunch of people holding onto 5 of something? Sure, but I think you are going to reduce those holding onto larger amounts of sets and those holding onto sets for bigger gains which means they will increase quicker in price than before the ban IMO.
After taking off selling fees and shipping, it really isn't making all that much for those copies bought at retail price. For those bought for 30% off, it is much more interesting.
The price today is a bit higher, about $310 shipped, but that doesn't make that much difference.
If I held them another 6 months, I'm sure I would do better, this is pretty early after retirement for a 4 year set, but I'm also looking to move on so I was ok to sell them at this point. Some of my copies have been on the shelf more than 2 years. :)
I think going forward LEGO reselling will work well enough for those who hobby resell. Buy two, keep one and sell one, will do nicely to cover the cost of the hobby and not take up much space or time.
The economics are quite different for that, than when actually investing and trying to make a living at it. :)
The same happens with most of the more recent newspaper polys, they never really rise significantly (exception is #30160, and #30163, and the odd older SW one). No doubt some people will invest heavily in the coming promo. At 50p a go they seem like good value. But by the time you have sold them for £2 including postage, then paid for postage, ebay and paypal fees, there isn't going to be much left. Even holding them for a year, you might get an extra 50p. Smarter money will probably go elsewhere.
Now I know that people say that the bricks will always be worth more than cardboard is, but I fear that the train is really beginning to slow down.
I still don't buy the Sports Card comparison. I was in the business as well a long time ago. It costs just as much to make a Tom Brady card as it does to make Dan Bailey card. They make just as many as well. Sports cards go up and down based on the athletes performance on the field. You don't know what you are getting inside a pack of cards, but you do when you buy a Lego set. With a Lego set you can keep it MIB, build it, tear it down and build something else. What toy can you open and play with and probably sell for as much as you bought it for after you are done? There are so many things that Sports Cards are not and honesty I think you can compare either. The markets for each are different.