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Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

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  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited January 2012
    Do you know for sure that you'll be paying tax at Amazon once the distribution center is in place? We have several distribution centers in Indiana, and I'm not charged for tax.
    Yes...The governor (who ran on not raising taxes) decided it was politically expedient to wring more money from the state's already broke residents. It was all over the news. Personally, I can't wait to vote against him in his re-election bid.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20DX5GEB7TUX8&cdThread=Tx2GPPT26WDJ7D8
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    and sweden 25%!! :(
    THAT is just crazy! I live in the USA and have always thought Lego charged EU residents too much for Lego sets. Add 25% on top of the already high prices and I don't see how EU residents can enjoy this hobby.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    The Frisco store is very nice, needs some better parts on the PAB wall, but they know that. The stock is generally very good and the manager and staff are very nice. I've only ever been to the Dallas store twice, both times to pick something up that was out of stock in the Frisco store, the drive is a bit far for anything else.
    Thanks @LFT...
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    Why has this discussion turned into sales tax debate?
    I challenge you to show me any forum topic anywhere that has run to over 1000 posts and has stayed on the original topic :)

  • JP3804JP3804 Member Posts: 332
    ^ ^^ How about propery taxes?
  • SupersympaSupersympa SwedenMember Posts: 534
    @farmer_john, taxes are actually included in the price in Europe.
    so when you see a price, it is what you pay, you do not have to include anything else.

    but true...it is very expensive...
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^^ Don't worry. Our taxes will be there soon!
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    @farmer_john, taxes are actually included in the price in Europe. so when you see a price, it is what you pay, you do not have to include anything else. but true...it is very expensive...
    Wow...I didn't know that. I guess it kind of explains the much higher prices in the EU.
  • MinifigsMeMinifigsMe Member Posts: 2,844
    At least in the EU taxes are included - the price you see is what you pay. American taxes are just very confusing! But no income tax in texas? WTH? how do the streets get cleaned?
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,923
    I love this thread. I look for the updates everyday, more like twice a day!

    That said, there are so many pages, not sure if it's been mentioned much, but I did notice it looks the Battle of Endor 8038 is officially gone.

    Missing from Lego.com and up to $120 on Amazon, and $130 sold on eBay. A nice immediate jump in value for a set that could be had for $80 with TRU deals in the states.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    @prevere - the $120 price on Amazon isn't that great, when you take into account that Amazon takes 15% plus they don't give you enough in shipping to actually ship a set like that.

    @Savage_Steel - we have oil money, which helps, but the real source of income here is property taxes, which are on the high side.
  • DavidRod8DavidRod8 Member Posts: 143
    There is no state income tax in Texas, but we do pay federal income tax. Plus as lft mentioned, our property taxes are on the high side compared to other states.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited January 2012
    That said, there are so many pages, not sure if it's been mentioned much, but I did notice it looks the Battle of Endor 8038 is officially gone. Missing from Lego.com and up to $120 on Amazon, and $130 sold on eBay. A nice immediate jump in value for a set that could be had for $80 with TRU deals in the states.
    I just checked Endor the other day and I seem to remember that it was listed as $99 at the Zon. I think this one should appreciate well in the aftermarket. It seems like it's been out there awhile suggesting just how popular it was. I have a couple MISB around somewhere, but have never built it.

    @Savage_Steel - Tennessee also has no state income tax and our property taxes are lower than Texas (I lived in TX many years). Unfortunately, our state sales taxes (which replace the state income tax) are roughly 10%; highest among all states (at least as of today). All USA residents earning income are required to pay income taxes into the Federal government (at least those who are honest), but each state derives its revenue differently. Some states rely on income taxes, some rely on sales taxes, some (like Tennessee) have higher gas taxes, some rely on lottery money, and most rely on some combination of each. To make things more confusing, some states do not enforce the collection of sales taxes on internet purchases even though they do collect sales taxes. The taxes we are referring to in these discussions are the state sales tax rates we pay to get our Legos either by purchase at [email protected], B&M or from a 3rd party like Amazon - all which are different from state to state.

    It would almost be interesting to have a thread that lists each state in order of the cost to purchase the same lego set.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,923
    I think the Clone Turbo Tank will do well too. Wish I had bought some of the first version. Sheeh, that sucker really goes for a lot.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    I think the Clone Turbo Tank will do well too. Wish I had bought some of the first version. Sheeh, that sucker really goes for a lot.
    The TT is still out there, isn't it? I saw it at Amazon for less than RRP. Any news?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Property tax does add up, but we can deduct the cost of it from our federal income tax, which helps.

    Then again, I live in Dallas, anyone interested might want to spend 3 min reading this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Texas_Oil_Field

    This field produced the first "gusher", and cause the creation of that term. It was the largest oil discovery in the world at that time and remains to this day, the largest oil field in the United States outside of Alaska.

    It will probably get passed by the Green River Formation in the next 10-20 years, as they figure out how to make that cost effective, but this huge field along with others in Texas, really made a huge difference to our state.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_River_Formation
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    @LFT - I think it would be cool to have a Lego Oil Derrick, Refinery and Flow Station now that you bring up oil.

    P.S. I put myself through college working summers at that oil field in Alaska (Prudhoe Bay) you mentioned. Because of the revenue generated at the Prudhoe Bay oil field, each resident (adult and child) in AK receives an annual dividend payment from the state's Permanent Dividend Fund in the amount of almost $1200 each. A family of four in AK will receive a check for roughly $4800 from the state this year. FYI...
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,238
    Does it really save any time to write "the Zon" over "Amazon"? I am refusing to add that to our abbreviations list. :o)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    How about "The River"?

    :)
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,238
    ^ www.bluenile.com?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ???

    I'm not sure I get the connection...

    On the seller forums over at Amazon, the seasoned sellers often refer to Amazon as the river... They often welcome new sellers who post there by saying "welcome to the River..." I think it is also on the "This ain't Ebay" topic... (which anyone wanting to sell on Amazon needs to read:

    http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=201728
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 2,002
    Just to follow up on my earlier post... LEGO's customer service did indeed get me taken care of on the damaged 10210. In the handful of times I've had to contact them, they have not let me down even once.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,923
    ???

    I'm not sure I get the connection...

    On the seller forums over at Amazon, the seasoned sellers often refer to Amazon as the river... They often welcome new sellers who post there by saying "welcome to the River..." I think it is also on the "This ain't Ebay" topic... (which anyone wanting to sell on Amazon needs to read:

    http://www.amazonsellercommunity.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=201728
    Fantastic link. Thanks. Curious about your Amazon selling experience - you sell more on Amazon than on eBay?
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    Does it really save any time to write "the Zon" over "Amazon"? I am refusing to add that to our abbreviations list. :o)
    Oh come on....can't an old man try to be hip??? I gotta try at least.
    Just to follow up on my earlier post... LEGO's customer service did indeed get me taken care of on the damaged 10210. In the handful of times I've had to contact them, they have not let me down even once.
    Lego Customer Service is the bomb! --> Just for you, @Yellowcastle - :-)
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited January 2012
    Fantastic link. Thanks. Curious about your Amazon selling experience - you sell more on Amazon than on eBay?
    I'm sorry, but I've heard some horror stories about selling on Amazon and I don't think I will ever do it. All they provide is an avenue (and a reduction in profit)...the seller gets all the risk (unethical buyers). I do understand their intentions and realize eBay isn't much better, but I will take eBay over Amazon any day (as a seller that is). JMO.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,923
    Ninjago Fire Temple. Looks like it's gone as well. Now posting for $170 on Amazon. eBay is sluggish, as I think this one was bought with a lot of BOGOs. Still could be an ok reseller in 2 years.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,923
    Actually nevermind. It's still around.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    I think HP and PotC are close to the end of their run. Walmart currently has the PotC BP on sale for $79. They also have some HP stuff on sale. There are just too many sets out there...something has to go.
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,238
    @LFT - Amazon = River = Nile
    @Farms - I think hip has passed us by, we're too old, nobody listens to techno :o)
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,834
    I think HP and PotC are close to the end of their run.
    PotC will be around a little while longer - required to support a new set that's due for release this year (so I've heard).
  • turtle1173turtle1173 Member Posts: 230
    Lucked out last week and managed to order 3 flagships on Wednesday. It sold out and I was kicking myself for not getting more. For a short time on Friday morning, it came up again as "call to check availability." I managed to order a few more. I was holding my breath on both orders but one arrived yesterday and other one today, all in great shape. It's nice when things work out right :-)

  • CoolsplashCoolsplash Member Posts: 935
    Another POTC ship I heard. What was the name of the third ship?
  • DaddyDeuceDaddyDeuce Member Posts: 272
    edited January 2012
    Back to the topic of sets about to sell out, I know these have been discussed but would point out that these are all on their last legs. They can still be found but inventories are drying up.

    7597: Toy Story Western Train Chase
    7188: King's Carriage Ambush
    7189: Mill Village Raid
    8097: Slave 1
    10198: Star Wars Tantive IV

    I'm getting mixed signals on 10193 Medieval Market Village, but I would hedge my bets if you want one of these for your collection. This might be the last few weeks to buy one.
    Another POTC ship I heard. What was the name of the third ship?
    You are thinking of The Flying Dutchman.
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,834
    Another POTC ship I heard. What was the name of the third ship?
    *cough* The Flying Dutchman *cough*
  • YellowcastleYellowcastle Northern VirginiaAdministrator, Moderator Posts: 5,238
    not a chance...cough...cough
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited January 2012
    I can always use another ship. Maybe they'll release the Titantic in lego, complete with a gaping hole in the side and the band playing on deck. Maybe a bit too morbid, but I would buy it...

    I have to check out the MVR and King's Carriage Ambush. I have plenty of Toy Story Trains, all purchased for 1/2 price. Even so, it's just not the EN.
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,834
    ^^lol. Let's see. :-)
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    PotC will be around a little while longer - required to support a new set that's due for release this year (so I've heard).
    ooooh, I wonder if its the ship the english army used in the film (just saw it tonight for the first time, rubbish film, the lego sets are much better!) - would explain why IF just retired anyway.
  • AvengerDrAvengerDr Member Posts: 453
    Anyone here stocking up on 10215 UCS Obi-Wan(s)?
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John USA - 4,035 Miles from 62 West Wallaby St., Wigan, Lancashire, UKMember Posts: 2,404
    edited February 2012
    Anyone here stocking up on 10215 UCS Obi-Wan(s)?
    I have one I purchased during last year's sale, but I'm waiting for the price to be reduced on Lego [email protected] before I purchase more. I'm surprised they haven't dropped it to at least 50% off. Perhaps they are close to selling them out????
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Titanic would be nice, but without the hole...

    I wouldn't mind a nice UCS size QM2, that would be impressive...
  • intromissionintromission Member Posts: 197
    My biggest disappointment post Christmas was driving up to a Walmart that showed stock of Battle of Endor. When I got up there I looked around and enlisted the help of the Toy area buyer to help me search as I was having little luck. He even checked the stockroom while I waited. Nothing. According to his PDA they were clearanced at $24! It was hard to leave knowing they might still be hidden.

    The next ship (if they are really releasing one) has to be the Dutchman. What else?
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^^ Went to over 30 Walmarts and never once saw an Endor.

    And where is this next PotC rumor coming from? People keep referencing a rumor but I have yet to hear of it otherwise.
  • Si_UKNZSi_UKNZ NZMember Posts: 4,179
    ^ dont know, I'll start a new thread and see what happens ..
  • jadeirenejadeirene US, CaliforniaMember Posts: 475
    ^^^, ^^ I think the Battle of Endor is a LEGO/TRU exclusive in the US. Walmart should never have had stock of those. I don't know how or why it would show up in their inventory system.
  • rasmustalirasmustali Member Posts: 85
    Hi, I found quite a nice discount on some of the ninjagos and toy story sets, http://www.rekato.ee/index.php?group_id=249&page=78&

    Are there any that would be worth purchasing? I am planning to maybe sell some of the sets or figures to get money for my star wars collection.
  • SupersympaSupersympa SwedenMember Posts: 534
    @rasmustali
    If you want them for you, why not, but those two themes have been at at least 50% discount every where in Europe, and I do not think you will make a big profit on it...may be a few sets like fire temple, but you will have to wait i think.
  • rasmustalirasmustali Member Posts: 85
    ok, thanks for the info
  • intromissionintromission Member Posts: 197
    Endorsed was ddefinitely @ Walmart as well. It was on the website.
  • AmikoAmiko Member Posts: 97
    In the UK, 2010 Harry Potter is beginning to trickle out of stock on places like Amazon, replaced by marketplace sellers at a premium. However, I did notice that ASDA online have the Hogwarts Express at around 61 pounds... Thought I'd mention as this set is fading out IMO.
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