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  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    @LegoFanTexas - Exactly my point. When it gets a couple more buildings to 'match' its theme, I think there'll be a big audience of people who'd passed on it initially that then suddenly want it for their street.

    But who knows? Maybe it will flounder at RRP forever. I highly doubt it, but anything's possible.
  • The_Brick_BuilderThe_Brick_Builder Member Posts: 658
    I bought a MISB FB for $122 shipped and I refuse to sell it. It looks like GE isn't as popular.
  • The_Brick_BuilderThe_Brick_Builder Member Posts: 658
    edited January 2012
    Sadly (for me), the GG is about $100-$150 more expensive than it was a few weeks ago. :(
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP Member Posts: 1,917
    Yes the FB is back on Amazon.com. I hope they got new batches and will not be sending out the missing bag batch.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    I can say that Amazon has at least two batches in stock right now... just got s shipment with 5 sets... 2 of them are 32R1, the other three are 39R1, so those will go back since my local Lego store does not have any to swap out.
  • sidersddsidersdd Member Posts: 2,432
    ^ Your store is out too, eh? I sense the end is surely near.
  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    @LegoFanTexas Im guessing you ordered a few days ago before they removed it and restocked it. I can't see how they would take FB down because of complaints and then continue to sell bad stock. Could they really be that dumb?

    Has anyone else noticed Diagon Alley has been removed from amazon? They had over 1000 of these when I checked I think yesterday. They couldn't have sold 1000 in one night.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    I suspect both FB and DA are both going to just up and disappear on us... They will be there one day, gone the next, with no warning whatsoever...

    Do I think it will be tomorrow? No, might not be for 6 months, but we'll get no warning.

    Yes, I did order FB before they removed it and restocked, but I don't think it is "new" stock, they have now pulled it "down" twice in the past week or so, only to put it back up. I shudder to think of how much of that 39R1 stock they have...
  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    I hope Hogwarts and Diagon Alley become available again. I would probably grab an extra FB too if they had the complete version, but I'm not worried as much about FB since I have one already.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    Why not just buy all three from [email protected]? Even with shipping and sales tax, it isn't that much more expensive than Amazon, and the items are more sure it arrive in great condition.
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^ Your store is out too, eh? I sense the end is surely near.
    All the Lego stores I've been to in the past week (5) have FB in stock.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    @gmpirate - did you by chance check the batch number?
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    @LegoFanTexas How do I do that? Let me know and I'll check my boxes.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    On the tape that seals each end, on one side will be the batch number printed in black ink on the tape itself... Usually printed on both tape strips on one side, with nothing printed on the other side of the box.
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    edited January 2012
    Just read up on it on the other thread . . . The one I bought yesterday was "39R1". I bought 4 others in the past week & 1/2 and they are all "44R1". 39R1 is bad, right?

    The 39R1 came from a Lego Outlet Store.

    Will go return/exchange it if that is the case . . .
  • tategoitategoi Member Posts: 19
    Would you buy them all if you can find Emerald Nights for less than USD150?
  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    @LegoFanTexas I would buy them from [email protected] if they had free shipping right now. I was just hoping they would stick around and I could buy them later. Lego will usually deliver them in better condition though.

    @gmpirate 39R1 is bad, but my area had no bad FBs so all my stores have them. I think if most stores don't have them right now its because your area had a lot to exchange and hasn't caught up yet. The "good" FBs have been opened to inspect and then resealed with a new batch number

  • DougoutDougout Member Posts: 888
    Maybe if they were $110-120. I bought one for $150 the other day and would like at least another, but not at $150.
  • LegoChiefLegoChief Member Posts: 21
    Would you buy them all if you can find Emerald Nights for less than USD150?
    If I could find an Emerald Night for $150, I'd buy it. I've been looking for one, finding some for $175, but I've been holding out, hoping to find one for $150.
  • SiESiE Member Posts: 238
    The only way is up for EN. Get it quick before the cheapest is 200.
  • CoolsplashCoolsplash Member Posts: 935
    Well we can always replace the classic Fire brigade van with a newer Fire van, get rid of the old water tower on the roof and maybe the big bell as well (though the bell is a major feature of the whole building).

  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    edited January 2012
    I was under the impression that if someone received a 39R1 batch (even from Amazon), they could contact TLG and ask to have the missing bags shipped. I know some were doing this even without opening their 39R1 sets. Is this incorrect and/or unethical? Some actually do collect sets and want to keep them sealed for resale purposes...

    As I mentioned earlier, I purchased mine back in December 2010. It's packed away in a box somewhere and I haven't checked the batch. Surely the 39R1 sets don't go back that far...
  • avoiceoreasonavoiceoreason Member Posts: 224
    As I mentioned earlier, I purchased mine back in December 2010. It's packed away in a box somewhere and I haven't checked the batch. Surely the 39R1 sets don't go back that far...
    Yes, does anyone know when batch 39R1 actually made its way onto the shelves? Like @farmer_john, I have a few from back in 2010/early 2011 but they are in boxes under a bunch of other Lego and the thought of digging them out just to check the catch number ... sheesh!
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    I think 39R1 came out a few months ago, the sets that I have from the first half of 2011 are older batch numbers...

    Of course I don't really "know", I have a sample size of 1 (or 5, depending on how you look at it)
  • parkerwilsonparkerwilson Member Posts: 142
    10193 is down to 55 units at Amazon, although its been there for 12 hours now
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    10193 has been below 100 units for days... But the sales rank indicates it should have sold a lot more...

    The qty must be inaccurate, otherwise it makes no sense...
  • momof2boys99momof2boys99 Member Posts: 322
    I have purchased atleast 30 FB's in the last year. I believe most of mine were purchased when Amazon had a sale on them with the Tantive a year ago. The only time I received the wrong batch # was when I purchased from Amazon a few weeks ago. My kids opened one and I sent the rest back. Lego is sending me the missing pieces for the set we opened. I can see this being interesting down the road when selling on Ebay. We will all have to list what batch # it is.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    edited January 2012
    I have purchased atleast 30 FB's in the last year.
    Thirty FB sets???? Wow! Are they all for selling, gifts, or to build a life-sized lego fire station? ;-)
  • momof2boys99momof2boys99 Member Posts: 322
    I mostly sell.....and we build. It is a vicious cycle.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    I heard that...

    Have you sold any of the FBs yet or are you waiting until they are EOL'd?
  • momof2boys99momof2boys99 Member Posts: 322
    I think I have about 18 right now. Our house is Lego crazy.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    I wish I could have purchased 30 at the price Amazon was offering them for back around the end of 2010. I only purchased one because I wasn't at the point where I was interested in the modulars. I actually had a GG in hand for $110 that was purchased from a 3rd party and shipped from Lego, but returned it to TLG due to some potential shenanigans by the 3rd party. I probably should have just offered to buy it from TLG, but other Christmas bills were starting to come in. Live and learn, I guess.
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP Member Posts: 1,917
    What was the 'special' price Amazon offered on the FB last year?
  • ktmoktmo Member Posts: 73
    I went back and checked my account history. I bought FB and Tantive IV from Amazon in Dec of 2010 for $220 total. I think it was BOGO 50%.
  • Pacific493Pacific493 Member Posts: 379
    I went back and checked my account history. I bought FB and Tantive IV from Amazon in Dec of 2010 for $220 total. I think it was BOGO 50%.
    Did you have to pay tax? I bought 4 during that sale at $105 each.

  • momof2boys99momof2boys99 Member Posts: 322
    edited January 2012
    I didn't have to pay tax plus the free shipping. There are states that do have to pay tax.
  • ktmoktmo Member Posts: 73
    ^ No tax here. I wonder why the difference?
  • momof2boys99momof2boys99 Member Posts: 322
    I think it depends if Amazon has a distribution center where you live. If they have a physical building then they need to tax you.
  • toyz4metoyz4me Member Posts: 7
    Amazon charges me sales tax on ANY order I place directly with them ((( (NY State)
    Imagine all the extra sets I could have without the tax!!
  • LegobrandonCPLegobrandonCP Member Posts: 1,917
    It's 12% tax here in BC, Canada. For every $100 purchase, I get charged the price of a SW Battle Pack.
  • sidersddsidersdd Member Posts: 2,432
    Yep I won't take a penny less than $600 each for my Flagships.
    Then yours will be sitting in storage until this guy sells all 45 of his at 1 penny below $600. :)
    http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?sID=101626&itemID=29864883

    FWIW, I just sold another today. Jan 1, sold one for $200. Today (Jan. 29) sold one for $270. Bought both for about $140. The profits to be used for my AC MOC. Not bragging - just showing one approach to funding the hobby.
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    It's 12% tax here in BC, Canada. For every $100 purchase, I get charged the price of a SW Battle Pack.
    Until this year, we didn't have a sales tax. In March-April timeframe, our state is getting its first Lego store. In short, I will now being paying a 10% premium due to taxes. To add insult to injury, our state just negotiated a deal with Amazon to bring in a distribution center (and the 10% sales tax at Amazon with it). No doubt it is going to cramp my lego purchases unless I can find another outlet to purchase lego sets at a reasonable price.

    FYI - My job frequently takes me to Victoria, BC, but I haven't had an opportunity to look around for Lego outlets. I would imagine that only Vancouver would have a Lego store in BC just due to its size.

    @LegoFanTexas - Does Amazon charge sales taxes in Texas? Which Lego store do you typically shop at in the metroplex? Which Lego store do you like the best in the metroplex? Is the store in Frisco decent? Thanks in advance!
  • pcironepcirone Member Posts: 346
    Yep I won't take a penny less than $600 each for my Flagships.
    Then yours will be sitting in storage until this guy sells all 45 of his at 1 penny below $600. :)
    http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?sID=101626&itemID=29864883

    FWIW, I just sold another today. Jan 1, sold one for $200. Today (Jan. 29) sold one for $270. Bought both for about $140. The profits to be used for my AC MOC. Not bragging - just showing one approach to funding the hobby.
    It's OK, brag away! Love to hear what people are getting for their sets.
  • sidersddsidersdd Member Posts: 2,432
    edited January 2012
    To add insult to injury, our state just negotiated a deal with Amazon to bring in a distribution center (and the 10% sales tax at Amazon with it).
    Do you know for sure that you'll be paying tax at Amazon once the distribution center is in place? We have several distribution centers in Indiana, and I'm not charged for tax.
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    I believe it has to be a "sale" outlet does it not?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    @LegoFanTexas - Does Amazon charge sales taxes in Texas? Which Lego store do you typically shop at in the metroplex? Which Lego store do you like the best in the metroplex? Is the store in Frisco decent? Thanks in advance!
    No, Amazon does not charge sales tax in Texas... Of course, like everyone else, we owe "use" tax on everything we buy, but since we have no income tax we have no simple form to use to pay it, so no one does (or I should say almost no one does, I'm sure you could find one person somewhere who actually does)

    The Frisco store is very nice, needs some better parts on the PAB wall, but they know that. The stock is generally very good and the manager and staff are very nice. I've only ever been to the Dallas store twice, both times to pick something up that was out of stock in the Frisco store, the drive is a bit far for anything else.
  • OdinduskOdindusk Member Posts: 763
    Kentucky is one of the few "Amazon tax" states. While that is unfortunate, the tradeoff is that I seem to get most of my orders in one day.

    At the end of the day though I'd way rather be required to pay zero tax.
  • y2joshy2josh Member Posts: 1,996
    @sidersdd - Amazon doesn't collect sales tax here because Indiana struck a deal with them to bring in four distribution centers and create X amount of jobs. It's a little annoying, actually, as we have to deal with those obnoxious ads on the radio from the Simons, whining about how no one goes to their malls anymore.

    I have a small eCommerce business, and I have to charge tax in Indiana - and Amazon doesn't bother me one bit, so there's no reason the huge companies and malls should be complaining. Heck, sometimes I can stuff from Amazon cheaper than I can buy it for at wholesale.
  • makmak Member Posts: 300
    Why has this discussion turned into sales tax debate? Go to England and you'll pay 20% tax. How about that?
  • SupersympaSupersympa Member Posts: 534
    and sweden 25%!! :(
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