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The new #10240 X-Wing is basically identical to #7191 (and also comes with 200+ more pieces). The term UCS is an outdated marketing tool that Lego chooses to stamp on a set when they even care to remember to do so.
At the price they are at now i find it hard to believe people are still opening these, imo i think most if not all of the ones currently being sold are being kept sealed
There are people to whom $3,000 is not really that much money and they don't care, they'll buy it and open it and enjoy it.
And then ironically, when bored with it, will give it to a friend's kid. :) Lucky kid indeed, but it likely won't have the box or instructions by that point.
When the MF reaches $5,000 I might think about selling it, assuming I have already bricklinked most of the pieces for it by then.
Do you see them releasing more than a 3000+ piece model as a remodel?
A new UCS Falcon might well be a 6,000 part model... If they could figure out how to give it an interior as well as be strong and able to be picked up, they'd have a winner. The lack of an interior hurt the last one.
Why do you think the SSD has that absurd "bridge"? :)
But not everyone is in the same boat. There are a lot of people paying over $10,000 a month for their home. Every one of them can afford to buy and open a new UCS Falcon today, if they were so inclined to do so.
It has a flat bottom so you can put it on a table, so just imagine cutting the bottom 1/4 off the ship and making it flat. :)
Nice set, would love to see a new one done.
I honestly hope I'm wrong, and those of you that are holding onto it look back and laugh at silly comments like mine while holding your $10k check.
What is the cost to Bricklink UCS Falcon? Right now a used one is going for nearly $2K on Bricklink, I suspect doing a parted version that was 100% accurate would cost almost that much these days.
If so, that tells me that the price is right and that is just what that costs.
If by "intrinsic value" you just mean plastic bricks, then all LEGO is overpriced in that regard.
Or did you mean something else? Just trying to understand.
If the UCS MF never released until today, I think it would be a GREAT design...but less scale, less pcs count, and larger sticker price.
Of course they don't *have* to keep that scale, but it might as well be, given how well that worked out.
Given that it is minifig scale, it is screaming for an interior.
So the question becomes, who here would buy a redone minifig scale UCS Falcon for $599 if it had 5,000+ parts and included a full interior?
That would mean a UCS Falcon release now would be 6080 parts, at $625.00 if you follow the average price per piece of the UCS line.
If you take only 2010-2013 average... you get
Entire Avg S189.46 1906pcs 0.102ppp
3 Year Avg $223.32 1917pcs 0.121ppp
That would well put the 6080 part model at above $725.00. I seriously doubt a new UCS Falcon would be of the same scale as the new one.
7191 has a 20 inch wingspan
10240 has a 18 inch wingspan, if "wide" measurment is indicator.
IMO Lego Star wars has gotten to the point where its become so in your face and popular the theme is starting to wear thin for me and i only just gained an interest in Lego last year
If a newbie came in with newbie questions could you still heartily recommend them to read back? I think that would be a quite cruel advice.
I just can't figure out which one.
- As with any set a lot will depend on how many are produced and for how long. That plus goes to the Const, since it is tied to TLR theme. The HE isn't tied to a theme so I see it staying around longer.
- I think the Const is more unique since it's a steam locomotive. So, another plus.
- The Const has extras (water tower, etc), a plus.
- And, IMO the Cons. is better looking. Personally I pick the Const over the HE.
- If all a person cares about is the train they could sell the minifigs to offset the price.
- I suppose the HE can be motorized easier. A plus for the HE.
- The HE has a much better price per piece. A plus.
I think the key will be to get the Const on sale for $75-80.
It isn't as nice as EN, but costs a lot less at this point. I think it will do well.
HE? Orange... bleah... not my choice, if it had been dark blue and actually labeled TGV, I would have been more interested. :)
I really like the LEGO trains, but prefer the freight trains much more so than the passenger ones. Just not much uniqueness in the passenger trains. Pretty much they're just different colors. Course, I suppose you need at least one for your city.
Themes like Star Wars have a lot of known "cool" figures. TMNT has a lot of past history and are specialized (head, shell). Super Heroes has lots of cool, interesting figs that have had a long following due to comics and TV/movies. LOTR no need to explain.
TLR just isn't that interesting compared to some. All of the bandits are just variants of each other. If I say Dan Reid, Frank, Ray, Latham Cole, Captain Fuller, how many people are going to immediately jump and say "aw man Frank is so awesome" or even know what theme its from.
Say Frodo, Gandalf, Obi-Wan, Jack Sparrow or any number of 100's of well known figs and people know who they are. Before TLR movie was announced I bet very few younger people today (<30) would know offhand who Tonto was.
Yup. I spoke to one of the clerks at the LEGO store about that and he said no kids know who the Lone Ranger is. The see the set and then ask "Who is that masked man?" :-)
As for the Constitution, I think it looks good, but I think they missed two key opportunities:
1) The engine needs more steam greebling, particularly they should have given it a driving rod for the wheels. That was just lazy design.
2) PF-modding is very difficult. Lego needs to come up with a generic car base that houses the whole shebang in it (IR, battery, motor) so that you can decorate it up to whatever theme you want and then it'll run, via pushing, any train you want like the Constitution, or the Ghost train, etc.
HE is more of an enthusiasts train model and is a nice display piece. I don't think the Constitution makes a great display train just on its own. Placed next to The Emerald Night, the Constitution looks silly. I like the HE, but as @LegoFanTexas said, the orange is not appealing.
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