Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

Dougout

Chima still has its chances, it hasn't failed yet

I don't think Galaxy Squad, Architecture or TMNT will do anything at all

TLR could do very well, some of the sets look amazing and I'm willing to bet the movie does a lot better than Prince of Persia or John Carter. Those series are so unique, they might be too involved for average people to care. The Lone Ranger seems like it will appeal to a bigger, more generalized audience and it also seems more action packed. People like action and guns, storyline - not so much.

Monster Fighters may do very well too. I've been slacking on MF and I'm regretting not buying the train from WM. Sales for that series should do very well around October.

y2josh

LegoFanTexas said:

y2josh said:

Side Liara rant: she's the WORST character in the series by a longshot... and one of only two that you absolutely have no way of killing (save for in the cop-out 'everyone in the universe is killed' ending). Ugh.

The rest of your comments were spot on the money...

But this? No way, there is a reason Liara was brought back as a teammate for 3, the fans missed her in 2!

She is one of the more interesting aspects to Mass Effect.

We'll agree to disagree there. I even liked Freddie Prinze, Jr. better than Liara. Garrus and Tali, though... I'm glad they stuck around for all three games.

pvancil27

Liara was kinda annoying, but Ashley was queen annoying. I'm so glad I figured out how to get her killed in 3.

ME Lego sets would be awesome. I also know that like Futurama sets, they will never happen.

LegoFanTexas

y2josh said:

Garrus and Tali, though... I'm glad they stuck around for all three games.

Keelah Se'lai

LegoFanTexas

pvancil27 said:

Liara was kinda annoying, but Ashley was queen annoying. I'm so glad I figured out how to get her killed in 3.

ME Lego sets would be awesome. I also know that like Futurama sets, they will never happen.

Yea, well... What were you expecting from her, milk and cookies? :)

y2josh

Ashley is odd to me in that she's a great character in the first game, more or less a non-entity in the second and then mildly to ultra-annoying in the third... dependent on what you'd done to that point.

Gameplay-wise, I discovered that Kaidan was way better in 3, whereas Ashley had turned into Garrus-lite, making her really redundant. I still usually don't stick with Kaidan, though, just because I can't separate him from Carth Onassi and his mid- to late-game tantrums.

y2josh

LegoFanTexas said:

y2josh said:

Garrus and Tali, though... I'm glad they stuck around for all three games.

Keelah Se'lai

You hope to see your homeworld someday? I KNEW there was no way you were from Earth!

binaryeye

So it seems the rumored end of LEGO Games is true. #50003 Batman and #50011 The Battle for Helm's Deep have been produced but have had limited release. Since both contain microfigs of popular properties, if it comes to pass that these don't see a wide release and their production is cut short, they could become somewhat valuable.

prevere

The microfigs may have a limited interested audience. There's just not much to those. The SW ones are limited (non-U.S.), and people aren't beating each other down for those.

LegoFanTexas

y2josh said:

LegoFanTexas said:

y2josh said:

Garrus and Tali, though... I'm glad they stuck around for all three games.

Keelah Se'lai

You hope to see your homeworld someday? I KNEW there was no way you were from Earth!

:)

It also means...

"May the spirits of our ancestors guide and protect us."

And

"May fortune smile upon us"

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It means different things to different people based on context.

It can also be taken for "I understand" without having to use further words, between two people who "get it" without further explanation.

LegoFanTexas

y2josh said:

Ashley is odd to me in that she's a great character in the first game, more or less a non-entity in the second and then mildly to ultra-annoying in the third... dependent on what you'd done to that point.

Gameplay-wise, I discovered that Kaidan was way better in 3, whereas Ashley had turned into Garrus-lite, making her really redundant. I still usually don't stick with Kaidan, though, just because I can't separate him from Carth Onassi and his mid- to late-game tantrums.

That is all true, but she is much more fun to run around with than Garrus. :)

Garrus does have a great story and is quite funny, Ashley needs to take a chill pill, maybe a vacation, or something.

dougts

^ she needs some "action".

pvancil27

Garrus was the Best Character to me, hands down. Grunt (If only for his part in the Citadel DLC) and Wrex being next in line.

Fully agree on Ashley, I always saved her over Kadian, but when three came out I redid a save saving him jsut to see the story difference. MY God how terrible they made her and how tolerable they made him.

Pretty much the only one I could never stand was Tali and to a lesser degree Jacob.

prevere

So is anyone going to re-buy the City Corner when it's actually on the market again?

LegoFanTexas

Jacob was useless, and a terrible love interest for femmshep...

Jack was fun to have in the party for her comments, as was Zaeed... Jack's Shockwave was very useful as well.

I often played 2 with Jack and Tali. Tali's Combat Drone was nice for forcing enemies out of hiding.

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"Go get 'em, Chiktikka! Good girl!"
"Nothing's faster than Chiktikka vas Paus!"
"Go for the optics, Chiktikka! Go for the optics!"

:)

LegoFanTexas

We need Mass Effect LEGO. Anyone want to place bets on what the value of a nicely done 2,000 part Normandy SR-2 would be worth?

cloaked7

I would much prefer Atlas and P-Body from Portal 2.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gadgetsin.com/uploads/2011/04/lego_atlas_pbody_and_turrets_from_portal_2_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gadgetsin.com/lego-atlas-p-body-and-turrets-from-portal-2.htm&h=480&w=640&sz=60&tbnid=jEPU5-i9aODZ-M:&tbnh=97&tbnw=129&zoom=1&usg=__NeSagu2S0pt7QpetANVqyB2QzvM=&docid=F84SoAP6hfaCYM&sa=X&ei=AeK4UduzHYnk4APTq4CQAQ&ved=0CDMQ9QEwAA&dur=2190

LegoPodcaster

@LegoFanTexas Have you seen these custom Mass Effect LEGO Minifigs?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hjmediastudios/9025966883/in/contacts/

pvancil27

Jack was great too, especially the cut scenes from three. Gotta love the tattooed up snarky Punk girl.

2 I used Legion and Jack mostly for asthetics.

3 I usually ended up playing with Liara and Javik, those two just tore things apart.

I'd be happy to drop 300 on a good UCS Normandy.

HarryPotterLover

Its kind of funny LEGO hasn't learned their lesson on Galaxy Squad-esq themes.

binaryeye

LegoFanTexas said:

We need Mass Effect LEGO. Anyone want to place bets on what the value of a nicely done 2,000 part Normandy SR-2 would be worth?

I have no familiarity with Mass Effect, but for all of you here who apparently do, this was posted on TBB recently:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/origin-of-the-brick/9011503003/in/photostream/

Pitfall69

prevere said:

So is anyone going to re-buy the City Corner when it's actually on the market again?

I might. I like the bus and there are some decent parts in that set.

BuriedinBricks

binaryeye said:

LegoFanTexas said:

We need Mass Effect LEGO. Anyone want to place bets on what the value of a nicely done 2,000 part Normandy SR-2 would be worth?

I have no familiarity with Mass Effect, but for all of you here who apparently do, this was posted on TBB recently:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/origin-of-the-brick/9011503003/in/photostream/

Saw that earlier. Can't wait to see it in person this weekend.

On-topic, the DINO sets seem to finally be creeping above RRP.

cardgenius

All this Mass Effect talk reminds me just how much I loved those games. I can't wait to see what they're gonna do with the new game. I just hope that with the Drs. retireing it doesn't affect the quality of their games. I didn't think the ending to ME3 was as bad as everyone said it was.

I'd easily spend $200-300 on a bad ass SR-2.

Also, is there a reason the forum doesn't have a "Lounge" type area to talk about stuff other than Lego?

pillpod

I get the feeling that the Architecture line will always linger once some of them retire. You probably won't get much out of the investment, but if you can get a lot of them at a great discount there should be some return. The sets are timeless, in a sense, and I can picture people that just visited a certain landmark wanting to get the set for themselves or their kid.

ColoradoBricks

For the Architecture, it is already interesting to see what #21016 is going to do, as unlike many in this series it was out less than 9 months.

LegoFanTexas

cardgenius said:

I'd easily spend $200-300 on a bad ass SR-2.

I would as well...

cardgenius said:

Also, is there a reason the forum doesn't have a "Lounge" type area to talk about stuff other than Lego?

There should be, most forums have an "off-topic" area to allow the community to talk about whatever is on their minds, so long as it remains respectful.

I've suggested it, both publicly and privately to the admins, but never gotten a reply either way about it.

So I'll toss it out again... We need a lounge, we are a community of people who love LEGO, but also love other things (clearly Mass Effect is one of them), it would provide a place to move these things to and keep the family together.

dragonhawk

^ On other forums, the off topic topics often veer to religions and politics where discussions often get heated and personal. Perhaps it is wise not to have off topic section in Bricksetforum for the sake of keeping general peace around here.


Of couse the downside is I have to read oodles of spoilers on Mass Effect since that game has been in my "to play" pile for how many years now :p

dougts

Agreed. It's an obvious community desire.

And it would accomplish two things immediately:
1) Allow the on-topic conversations to better stay that way
2) Allow Admins more options in handling off-topic conversation that does crop up in other threads - redirect people to the O/T area, and/or split the thread directly into that area.

Pitfall69

Yes, but there are reasons why we go off topic, but it always ends up back to Lego. Discussions about taxes has a lot to do with reselling Lego. Bubble wrap...Lego. Video games...well...because of Minecraft and maybe future Lego sets based on video games.

LegoFanTexas

dragonhawk said:

^ On other forums, the off topic topics often veer to religions and politics where discussions often get heated and personal. Perhaps it is wise not to have off topic section in Bricksetforum for the sake of keeping general peace around here.

Religion is a very personal thing. We could discuss it, but you are not likely to change anyone's mind about any of it on an Internet forum.

Politics, much the same thing, with maybe ever so slightly more chance of change. Or maybe not... :)

Mass Effect doesn't cover either topic. :)

It would be reasonable to have an off-topic area that was anything but religion and politics, I can see keeping those two out, anything else could be fair game.

dragonhawk said:

Of couse the downside is I have to read oodles of spoilers on Mass Effect since that game has been in my "to play" pile for how many years now :p

Well, get off your duff and play. Mass Effect came out 6 years ago, get on it! :) Then you too can say Keelah Se'lai and understand what it really means. :)

y2josh

If this thread didn't have off-topic tangents, it would be at least fifty pages lighter...

Pitfall69

50? That's alittle low don't you think?

y2josh

I did say 'at least.'

cardgenius

dragonhawk said:

^ On other forums, the off topic topics often veer to religions and politics where discussions often get heated and personal. Perhaps it is wise not to have off topic section in Bricksetforum for the sake of keeping general peace around here.

With the forums I've been on, they almost always have rules about not discussing Religion and Politics. And when threads about those topics do pop up the Mods are quick to shut them down. I would think it'd be a good thing cause it keeps people on the site when the Lego discussions/News slow down.

TheLoneTensor

I thought Lego was a religion.

pvancil27

Maybe I can restart the discussion on the ethical ramification of re-sellers in the Mass Effect universe. ;)

Keelah Se'lai Indeed.

mathew

What I don't get is that it's ok for this thread to veer off in into no-man's land yet it's not ok to start up a thread about a favorite set or which set to buy. It's a really stupid policy that the moderator's have. No offense. In general this forum is pretty good, but it's definitely far from perfect.

mathew

tensor said:

I thought Lego was a religion.

It's not far from it. Like Apple, I think it's a cult. It's definitely addictive.

y2josh

pvancil27 said:

Maybe I can restart the discussion on the ethical ramification of re-sellers in the Mass Effect universe. ;)

Keelah Se'lai Indeed.

You definitely should... only do it as if you were a Hanar. This one wishes to see that.

Just don't bring up the Enkindlers, lest you want things to devolve into a religious brouhaha.

Renny

I may be in the minority but being in the reselling game for awhile now the addictive nature of collecting Lego has diminished a bit for me.

pvancil27

I was gonna do it as a Volus, but a Hanar would be better.

@mathew I totally agree with how things are run around here, it makes little sense to me. They jam threads together then spread other apart, say not to ask opinions on sets (which if I'm not mistaken is a part of what a forum is for?) and just general do some head scratching things.

TheLoneTensor

Renny said:

I may be in the minority but being in the reselling game for awhile now the addictive nature of collecting Lego has diminished a bit for me.

I think this is logical, because when you turn something into a "job," it becomes less enticing overall to do for fun. That, and when you run out of space, or find yourself straddled with poor performing sets, can also diminish the desire to collect more.

jasor

Many of the offshoot tangents in this thread actually relate to previous convos...it's just that there are so many people who read/comment this thread, the topic relationships are lost in the pages.

Keep calm, and skim/scan on.

Pitfall69

tensor said:

Renny said:

I may be in the minority but being in the reselling game for awhile now the addictive nature of collecting Lego has diminished a bit for me.

I think this is logical, because when you turn something into a "job," it becomes less enticing overall to do for fun. That, and when you run out of space, or find yourself straddled with poor performing sets, can also diminish the desire to collect more.

I feel myself getting into the same "rut", but then I get excited when new sets are released.

TheLoneTensor

So what do you think about the future of reselling sets bought from this point forward? It seems that there are a number of factors that have evolved recently that make it much more difficult nowadays than it was a mere two years ago.

1) The concept of the BOGO has diminished greatly the last couple years with restrictions on many themes and or bigger sets (TRU mostly here)
2) Limits on purchasing ([email protected], Amazon, TRU, etc.)
3) Banishment of people from some retail outlets ([email protected], Amazon)

In 2010 & 2011, it was much easier and frequent to find deals on resellable sets bought at that point. 2012 was less so and 2013 is even harder.

cloaked7

^ Excellent points. Those are aspects of the supply side. Most of which don't affect me much, as a small (do it for the fun and pocket money) reseller. If resellers are buying fewer sets I think it will affect things. And, maybe in the opposite way that LEGO thinks. Less after retirement supply, with the same demand as in the past, will create higher prices in the after market. Personally it won't affect me (as I said I am a small reseller). I am still able to get the same qty of LEGOS now as I could earlier, and at great prices (even without BOGO's). Larger resellers will speak for themselves. But, the changes in the supply side don't affect me much, all things considered.

The more interesting aspects, I think, are on the demand side. Will future post retirement demand begin ebbing?

1) has LEGO over supplied? Kept some sets active too long (DS and others), and simply over supplied other sets.
2) has LEGO shot themselves (and resellers) in the foot with too many themes? I mean, your average LEGO customer isn't going to buy more LEGOS just because there are more sets to buy, are they? I'm not. I become more selective.
3) is the demand for LEGO ebbing?

prevere

You just have to adjust to market conditions, and pay attention to the trends. We all pretty much are given the same information, but there's only one difference between the wiseman and the fool.

TheLoneTensor

prevere said:

You just have to adjust to market conditions, and pay attention to the trends. We all pretty much are given the same information, but there's only one difference between the wiseman and the fool.

I'm not quite sure of your points here, as the purpose of my post was indeed to discuss those trends and what ways we have to adjust to the resulting market conditions.

madforLEGO

I think LEGO has shot itself in the foot with too many themes, but not because of or affecting resellers I think.
Resellers are going to go after the hard to find sets most times and only a handful of those sets are worth it. While some resellers buy copious amounts of smaller sets to hope to strike it big, and I think those people will most likely be pinged by this glut of lines, but I think there massive resellers know what almost always sells and what to buy regardless of the lines out there.

I think LEGO is really shooting themselves in the foot with too many lines because you dilute your own buying pool.
You make all of these lines that may sell marginally instead of dedicating to a line to make that line great.. The got this right with Ninjago, but then decided Chima had to be introduced.. which was a mistake IMO.
Ninjago was not losing popularity so why make a line that could compete for dollars against the line selling insanely well?
I get that you want to do lines like MF which was a hit but for every one of those you get a PoP and Atlantis.
I say you keep MF going and make a cartoon for it, and keep selling the lines.. Im sure they could do more if they set their minds to it for MF