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I am super excited about Plants Vs Zombies 2 and other indie games that will be released....I just love the creativity these smaller developers have....and I can play them all on my Ipad (and in the case of Plants vs Zombies 2 for free!)....absolutely no reason for me to buy either the PS4 or Xbox One. I did break down and buy the Wii U....it will be a blast when the new Mario Kart and Smash Bros is released....plus we need it to play the new Lego games. I think I have one more console purchase left and that will be the NES (unless I get it for father's day)...good times :)
...was to drop all backwards compatibility.
When I bought my first PS3, it was the launch 60GB system that was PS2 compatible.
I would buy the launch PS4 if it were as well. If they offered a version for $100 more that simply had a PS3 chip in it, I'd pay it.
Why? Because my kids already have a library of games for the PS3. I'm not going to buy them all again for the PS4 and they would miss many of them if I dumped the PS3 to own a PS4.
But I'm not going to have both on the TV either, the Wii U was a stretch to add to the PS3, but I went for that. I won't do another.
So either the PS4 at some point has the ability to play the 30+ games my 3 kids have, or we won't get one.
The XBox One of course doesn't have a chance, being in fact a long term rental rather than a purchase.
I loved the dreamy graphics on it
Mirror's edge 2 should be good :)
Oh wait, this is not the everything goes video games forums? Sigh at least we are not talking about baseball gloves...... ;)
So about BWings, is it setup to be the next UCS Obi Wan's Starfighter ?
It only took you 3 comments to start swearing. Fantastic.
Go chill out dude. Its a forum for people who like lego, we have other interests that intersect with Lego and we are free to talk about them here.
If it gets you bent out of shape I suggest you go elsewhere.
If exposure did not help Obi Wan's Starfighter, what chance does bwing have?
As its a UCS set, and geared towards people who would have been old school fans, I think it will do ok.
Oh, and a shoutout to Homeworld, easily one of my top 5 games of all time, among those other greats you mentioned. Perhaps this is a concern, and I'll toss a cover over the Kinect not unlike how I put a sticky note over my laptop camera. Heck, we're mere years away from most everything being connected to the "mothership" anyway. Resistance, as they say, is futile. Well of course it's an opinion, and if the opinion is that it's good (which is the majority, I might add) then it makes it better. The luxury you have with two, competing systems is the ability to act upon that opinion one way or another. Just like I hope Samsung and Apple beat each other up for years, I feel the same way about Sony and Microsoft. If they stop fighting, we lose.
We're so off topic, I'm sorry :(
I heard from a Lego store employee that the FB is retiring soon.
Now, where were we? Oh yeah! One of my favorite PC games was Planescape: Torment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planescape:_Torment
It may sound strange, but it came out just before the turn of the century. Now, that's old! :-) Sadly, I don't think it would do well as a LEGO set. Well, not as I understand LEGO's policy. :-)
One last thing...
In January 2013, Brian Fargo announced that the spiritual successor to Planescape: Torment, titled Torment: Tides of Numenera, was in production and would be set in the Numenera RPG universe created by Monte Cook. (from wikipedia)
The randomness of this community is what makes it so great.
No love for Nintendo anyone?
Of course I still have a ton of love for Nintendo :)
Only game I've played on my 360 the past 4 years is Forza 3/4 and LEGO SW. I played the ME's on my PC, and outside them its mostly Indie games off steam like FTL.
http://search2.lego.com/?q=out+of+stock&lang=2057&cc=US
I miss Interstate 76 which unfortunately was only for PC (at least I think it was) and I definitely miss Dreamcast games like Power Stone 2, Tech Romancer and Demolition Racer No Escape.
Unique games that put a twist on genre's
I wish these would move to XBL
One reason why I bought the XBox was to get XBL Monkey Island and it also came with LEGO Batman, which was a blast to play.
Though need to always keep in mind out of stock is not Sold out...
Surprised that the street baseplates are on that list too.
http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/comment/190381/#Comment_190381
That being said, one of the issues is trying to make PC games work on cheap hardware. There is a difference between a $50 no-name motherboard and a $150 ASUS motherboard. And it isn't just features. Cheap memory vs. quality name brand memory.
My computer doesn't crash, doesn't lock up, runs everything, never has a problem. Of course it also wasn't a $499 PC from Best Buy, which is one reason for that. :) Amen, double amen, over and over... Shame they didn't continue the line, that was a wonderful game. Even is today, holds up really well 10 years later. :) So true... but why can't I just unplug it? That would be my preferred option. Why does it need to be attached if I don't want to use it? What I want most is a Police HQ modular, that would look very cool and give a nice excuse for a dark blue modular building. :)
However the demographics have changed since 2006, and the price point of $600 wasn't just PS2, it was the very expensive Blu-Ray drive that back then was several hundred dollars, today it costs almost nothing extra.
Gamers on average continue to get older, we are right in the middle of having families now. Those of us who grew up on NES and SNES are now married with children, there is a limit to how many things we want in our house.
I already have too many... iPad, 3DS, Wii U, PS3, computers... I bought the Wii U for LEGO City Undercover, but also because it plays Wii games, my son can still play Super Mario Galaxy on it. If I buy a PS4, I want to get rid of the PS3, but my son still wants to play LEGO Star Wars and his other PS3 games. If he can't, then what?
I'm left with three options:
1. Keep the PS3 and not buy the PS4.
2. Keep the PS3 and buy the PS4 and have both of them.
3. Ditch the PS3 and rebuy the games in PS4 versions.
I don't like any of those choices, but most likely I'm going to pick #1. I would prefer the 4th option:
4. Pay $100 extra for a PS4 that has a PS3 Cell chip in it so I can ditch the PS3 and still keep those games.
But that isn't an option, so I'll revert to #1. I am probably not the majority, however I'm not nobody either. There is some percentage of households that have a PS3 that feel it is "good enough" and just don't need "another gaming system" in the house. I'd buy the PS4 if it played PS3 games, but not if it doesn't.
That being said, the Mass Effect series is indeed incredible, right up until the last 5 minutes of it when they pulled a Deus ex machina to wrap it up in a way that made no sense and was just stupid. :) But ignoring that, amazing...
To this day, I remember finishing Mass Effect 1, the grand scale of it, the epic threat implied, the story, the final battle... I felt like I had been part of a movie, something really special...
Mass Effect 2 was in many ways a smaller game than 1, but a tighter and better game with the kinks worked out. The ending wasn't as cool or fleshed out, but boy, when that final platform started moving after Sheppard gave the speech to the crew and the music started playing, it felt like we were off to face Death itself...
3 was technically the best game, but the worst story. Could have been so much more, but it was so rigid on rails. In 2 it felt like you could pick more what to do and where to go, in 3 you were far more limited in options at any given time. But it was nice to have Liara back... if I could make any alien species come to life, Asari would be pretty high on my list.
I would say TLR, but I think these sets have a tremendous amount of usable parts for a lot of AFOLs
I've always been an Xbox person (well, Nintendo until the Xbox was released) but the PS4 is looking more appealing this time. It has some interesting looking exclusives, where as the only one I wanted before was Heavy Rain, and that wasn't enough for me to buy the console. Also I'm not a fan of some of Microsofts business decisions. Just seems greedy to me. It will cause them to lose out in the end so I'm quite surprised by the route they've taken.
Are they really not offering backwards compatibility though? That's a strange decision. I need to read up a little more on the consoles over the next few days.
Galaxy Squad will probably follow in the lines of recent non-IP themes like AC, Atlantis, PQ, etc and not be worth investing in. there are some great sets, but whatever comes along after is going to siphon off most buyers, just like it did with those themes
Chima will be a dud in the afterlife. For that matter, most Ninjago sets probably won't be that great either - but at least they have ninjas!
Friends is the big wild card. I honestly have no idea what, if any, market there will be for these in the future. Assuming the line continues to pump out 2 waves per year, which seem almost guaranteed, the older, EOL sets are going to be competing against the new stuff still on the shelves. I'm sure there will certainly be winners in the Friends lineup here and there, most of them probably aren't worth investing in.
Of course, I could be completely wrong about everything.
Chima is a wildcard... we need to see the cartoon first, it may well spark interest. If Ninjago comes back like they promised, could they support both at the same time?
Maybe... That is a lot to ask...
Superheros in general is easy enough, for some of the sets. Like anything else, there will be winners and not so winners (since we don't have losers anymore it seems).
I predict Architecture will do well, it will rise in price on retirement, more for some, less for others, but the volume won't be there. If you have 5 or 10 of them, you can sell 1 a month over a year or two and do fine, but if you have hundreds of them, it will hurt.
Galaxy Squad will be forgotten... Who remembers Space Police III? Who cares?
The Lone Ranger depends largely on how well the movie does, and if it gets a confirmed sequel. If it pulls a POP or John Carter, then forget it, except the train of course. That being said, western themes are lacking in general so you won't lose money if you get them on sale.
Monster Fighters will do well, but it will be very seasonal. If you can wait until October each yet, I predict it will jump 20-30% each season.
SpongeBob will do ok, but not great. It is cute and all, but there just isn't enough push behind it to be interesting. I'll bet a lot of LEGO fans don't even know it exists.
Ninjago, if it comes back with a third season to the cartoon and a fourth wave to the sets, will be a smash hit. The current sets will do well if that is the case, but if they change their minds and let it die, then in time it will be forgotten and I predict the prices will drop by quite a bit. Kids grow, move to new things, and can be quite fickle creatures. :)
TMNT will do ok, another series to pickup for 30% or more off and hold 5 to 10 of each for long term slow sales, if that is your thing. Not a theme to own a ton of.
Sony claims that in the future they may offer "select" PS3 games via an online streaming service, no word on if owning the existing games gets you anything in regards to a discount or free copy. No word on when it might come, it won't be at launch.
Microsoft has said no completely to it, even XBL Arcade games purchased for 360 won't play on the One. But then again, Sony PSN games purchased won't play on the PS3 either.
Bah Humbug! :(
POP was horrible, years later those sets are still under RRP. Shame, the colors and parts are interesting.
PQ has actually turned out ok, a few of those sets are running over RRP now so if you got them for 50% off 18 months ago, the return has become reasonable.
Racers has done nothing, which is not a surprise but a shame because some of the micro builds were rather cool. Take a look at #8154 and #8495 for two sets that I like.
I hated the story in ME2, Like three better overall but hated the terrible ending. The Storyline from the first was Epic.
Now, the darker side of me predicts that the next line of Ninjago will be so bad compared to the previous ones, it makes Chima sets look more appealing. Is this too sinister of a plan for TLG?
no...WII, PS, XBOX and 5 threads about retiring Lego... made it quicker to go through!
Anyway, I agree with the recent posts about the future retired sets.
It is simple, you take your 7 years old son to the shop and see where he is attracted...
Galaxy squad, no - Super heroes, yes - Ninjago, YES big time, Star wars, I think he is getting tired of it (like the dad)
Ninjago will probably retire this summer to leave space for new sets, so we will have a 6 months window without ninjago I guess untill the new sets comes along in 2014, it will be intrested to look at the evolution.
How about...
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:)
You're right, it is a third person shooter, I don't really think of the two as being that different.
It sure isn't Freespace! :)
Citadel DLC is the one I haven't played, I've done the rest. It is on my list, just haven't gotten around to it...
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Harbinger: Human, you've changed nothing. Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater. That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction. You have failed. We will find another way.
[Harbinger is revealed to be a Reaper controlling the collector general]
Harbinger: Releasing control!
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"I am the vanguard of your destruction"---Sovereign
"You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it"---Sovereign
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In many ways, the Reapers are more frightening than the Borg.
Keelah Se'lai
I love the series in spite of the final moments, but they had a perfectly reasonable (albeit still deus ex machina-ish) resolution to the series in the idea of the Crucible as a mostly unexplained super weapon that would wipe out the Reapers with some kind of magical pulse wave (or all synthetics, as one of your 'choices' winds up being).
This would have also prevented the scene between Shepard and Anderson (one of my favorite moments in the third game - right up there with Mordin saving the Krogan and Garrus and Shepard's fantastic bit atop the Citadel) from being undercut by the following twenty minutes of exposition the likes of which I haven't seen since the series finale of Lost.
Side question: In the first game, did anyone but me literally spend MINUTES making up their mind when it came time to decide who would die? They made a pretty brilliant choice there from a design standpoint, in terms of the characters you had to choose between. If the decision had involved Liara, for example, it would have been severely diminished, as I'd have killed her every single time just for being so freaking annoying. Side Liara rant: she's the WORST character in the series by a longshot... and one of only two that you absolutely have no way of killing (save for in the cop-out 'everyone in the universe is killed' ending). Ugh.
Sort of on topic - If they wanted to do a few high-end Mass Effect LEGO sets, I'd buy them in a heartbeat. I know it won't happen, but a guy can dream.
I get that SW is really their space stuff and the do not want to compete, but if that is the case then why bother with any kind of space theme at all right now? I think LEGO just wastes money sometimes to waste money.. Sure they make money, but they are making it behind Ninajgo as well, which shows that a LEGO property can be a huge hit if you stand behind it, not just throw out a line after line in machine gun fashion. I fear with this method of production and poor license choices (like PoP) the increasing lack of quality control that LEGO is going to see the late 90's type of era again.
But this? No way, there is a reason Liara was brought back as a teammate for 3, the fans missed her in 2!
She is one of the more interesting aspects to Mass Effect.