Predictions on Discontinuing Sets and their Secondary Market Value

Nadana86

gmpirate said:

^^^ Cool, another list! What about the DS?

Oops, totally forgot that one ;-)

FatMatt

Yes, the DS is sure to go this year so get them while you can.

brickupdate

This is the third anniversary of us all assuming Death Star is retiring!
:)

Pitfall69

@FatMatt

Awesome, I just purchased 20 of them.

momof2boys99

I think this is the first time that I don't have a Death Star in inventory and am not ordering any at the moment. So.....that should be a sure sign that they will go. :0)

Brick_Obsession

y2josh said:

cloaked7 said:

Jango is? I thought the general consensus was that he was one of the most absurd characters in the SW universe, with no real purpose other than to ruin the mythos of Boba.

I disagree @Y2josh, Jango was good for one thing. And that was dying so awesome!

I am with you, there is no way if a UCS Slave I is produced that it is not Boba's.

y2josh

Brick_Obsession said:

I disagree @Y2josh, Jango was good for one thing. And that was dying so awesome!

"Dying so awesome" in that he was decapitated, or "dying so awesome" in that he was a highly-experienced, galaxy-renowned bounty hunter that somehow thought the BEST plan of action against a Jedi was to haphazardly fire at him while slowly backing away?

Renny

^His rocket pack was damaged from that rhino attack so he couldn't escape. Still, you would think such an experienced fighter would have more tricks up his sleeve.

wilbur

Jango who? Isn't that a Tarantino movie coming out soon?

Renny

That would be Django :)

migrainejones

Its a competition prize & my little boy has much more interest in Arkham Asylum.

prevere

Back on the Architecture sets, which we rarely write about - noticed a lot of the older "1st wave" are out of stock with expected shipping dates in January. Are some of these finally going in the first quarter of 2013, perhaps?

http://search2.lego.com/?q=architecture&lang=2057&cc=US

drdavewatford

Your set has an RRP around twice that of the new Arkham Asylum set, so you'll certainly raise enough by selling it to buy your son what he wants and then some. If you can't be bothered to sell then it should be easy to find someone willing to trade 1:1, although you'll obviously not be getting the best deal.

Billybrown

If you can find spare funds then get the Arkham Asylum with it and try and keep hold of the Imperial Shuttle as it will most likely be double its current RRP in 12 Months time.

mak

Or you could always sell it to me at RRP :-)

Gavin83

Is TB going? Its seems to be out of stock in the larger retailers at the moment. Would seem strange to EOL it without a replacement though. Was TB announced before the last set went (Taj Mahal I presume?)

madforLEGO

TB is still at Amazon.com at 9% off.
As for it being sold out, it all depends.. LEGO could always change that back to backorder'ed

111ins

9% off is better than 300% over!
actually, don't get one, I will and let you know the price in a couple of years :)

Ma1234

prevere said:

Back on the Architecture sets, which we rarely write about - noticed a lot of the older "1st wave" are out of stock with expected shipping dates in January. Are some of these finally going in the first quarter of 2013, perhaps?

http://search2.lego.com/?q=architecture&lang=2057&cc=US

You answered your own question. They have an expected shipping date. They are staying.

We now know what is EOLing pretty much: look at the after-Xmas LEGO Store sale list. It's essentially an EOL list. Lots of City sets gone after a year...

prevere

^Not necessarily. Just because they have shipping dates into January, doesn't mean they'll be available through 2013.

And with city sets, that's a pretty obvious conclusion. City sets have a very consistent timeline from launch to EOL. Very, very rare for those to last longer than 24 months.

monkeyhanger

Renny said:

^His rocket pack was damaged from that rhino attack so he couldn't escape. Still, you would think such an experienced fighter would have more tricks up his sleeve.

Don't forget though that Boba's performances weren't exactly amazing in Ep 5 & 6 - He was given Han at Bespin, and battling on the Skiff he was pretty inept. Again, the rocket pack malfunctioned, maybe they should've both done without.

monkeyhanger

I was just in Prague for a few days, they had 3 x Tantative IV limited edition set available for €300 each, also there were 2 x ATOT dropship sets at the Lego museum there.

Ma1234

prevere said:

^Not necessarily. Just because they have shipping dates into January, doesn't mean they'll be available through 2013.

And with city sets, that's a pretty obvious conclusion. City sets have a very consistent timeline from launch to EOL. Very, very rare for those to last longer than 24 months.

Yes, it pretty much does mean they will be, as they are in the 2013 production batches.

City sets actually have extremely inconsistent timelines and it's very common for them to be out for three or more years. The surprising thing this year is that many are being discontinued after only one year. Sets like the airport and city car lasted three; the fire pickup is finally leaving and was introduced circa 2006-07, and the train sets are entering year four. Many police sets are entering year #3.

City set #7741 is in the 2013 assortment, entering its sixth year on the market.

y2josh

monkeyhanger said:

Renny said:

^His rocket pack was damaged from that rhino attack so he couldn't escape. Still, you would think such an experienced fighter would have more tricks up his sleeve.

Don't forget though that Boba's performances weren't exactly amazing in Ep 5 & 6 - He was given Han at Bespin, and battling on the Skiff he was pretty inept. Again, the rocket pack malfunctioned, maybe they should've both done without.

Boba's jetpack malfunctioned because he underestimated the deadly precision of the greatest smuggler in the galaxy...........

On the other hand, Episode II was so brutally bad, I don't even remember how Jango came to be rolling around under the reek to begin with... but I'm sure it made as much sense as picking a fight with a Jedi.

LegoFanTexas

^ It doesn't make any sense, but it was all an attempt to explain why the clones were able to defeat the Jedi.

The truth is, the Jedi's abilities are so wildly all over the place that it is hard to tell just what they can and can't do.

There are times it seems like they can take on a room full of baddies single-handedly, other times they are completely inept.

It is Fantasy of course, not meant to make sense, but the fact is, the Jedi are all powerful one minute, useless the next.

Whatever the story that day needs.

Bosstone100

^ the best explanation I've heard is that using the Force to augment your abilities drains you the more you use it. It helps explain why Obi-Wan didn't use superspeed to catch up to Darth Maul in Ep. 1 before he killed Qui-Gon.

monkeyhanger

Or maybe the Jedi like a sly night out on the drink without Yoda knowing, and when that happens their force powers are way out of kilter until they sober up. We already saw in Episode 2 and 4 that Obi-wan likes to go to pubs looking for a bar fight.

Farmer_John

Jedi can levitate huge items, but when they are falling they can't levitate themselves... It's always bothered me, but I'm finally over it and can sleep now. :-)

mressin

^ Ah, they can force-jump. I guess they always need something to push off/levitate against, though.

y2josh

Farmer_John said:

Jedi can levitate huge items, but when they are falling they can't levitate themselves... It's always bothered me, but I'm finally over it and can sleep now. :-)

This has always made sense to me honestly. I can lift a 240 pound rock and hold it off the ground, but I can't lift myself and do the same. I realize the Force is involved with a Jedi... but it's an extension of the user in that case, so I feel like the same logic should apply.

Nadana86

I can lift a 240 pound rock and hold it off the ground

I'm impressed ;-)

LegoFanTexas

^ The flaw of course is that Jedi can sometimes fall great distances and land softly.

Mace Windu jumped off the balcony in Attack of the Clones and fell at least a dozen stories, and landed as if it was a few feet.

Brickbase

The same could be seen in the opening of Episode 1, where Qui-Gon and Obi Wan also made a huge jump into the hangar.

thehockeyboy

To change a topic from all this Jedi talk...

Do you guys think the 2012 Star Wars Advent Calendar is EOL?

Dougout

For what it is worth I went to the Lego store Saturday and they were fully stocked on all the modulars and TB.

JamesJT

US post-xmas sale
www.fbtb.net/2012/12/23/lego-shophome-post-christmas-clearance-list/

All the good stuff is already sold out.

madforLEGO

What you do not want to talk about how the Jedi powers affect the secondary market? Ohh thats right I forgot.

I will say I hope LEGO has learned its lesson with their prices on Advent calendars this year (at least the SW one) that there IS a ceiling and they apparently hit it because I had to sell off their calendars at a 50% discount.

Tower Bridges would be interesting IF they were discounting them, otherwise I think Amazon has them still for 9% off.

cloaked7

I'm sure the TB will do well in the after market, but dollar for dollar I would rather put it on the IS and MMV (which I have done). I think they will out perform the TB, especially based on what I was able to purchase them for relative to RRP.

madforLEGO

^ agreed, I think those that managed to get the TB at around 180 will have an easier time . But I'm sure there were those who saw the Effel tower and Taj Mahal on clearance thought they would never make any money. I think it may be something you will need to sell globally though.

LegobrandonCP

Nooooo... I just realized the Shuttle Expedition is now sold out on Amazon. I was gonna spend my Christmas money on it along with the MMV.

I know the MMV is still available on S@H, but they don't ship to 3rd party retailers. :( Target does have it for $89.99. :)

Where can I find the SE at American MSRP?

JP3804

^ TRU

cloaked7

Toys are us still has it a RRP ($99.99). Get it quick. I think it will be retired relatively soon.

natron20

Hi everyone,

Received the VW Bus lego (10220) set as a gift, however, I really think I want to exchange it for something else. I am really not looking at collecting in terms of an investment but am more curious about what sets are most likely to retire soon so I can make sure I have one to build before they go away.

Right now I am considering Tower Bridge (10214), Haunted House (10228), Space Shuttle (10231), and the Sopwith Camel (10226). Any of these have the potential to be on the chopping block soon? If you were new which would you suggest for an AFOL looking for a good time?

Thanks!

peterlinddk

None of those sets are about to retire. I got the Space Shuttle two years ago (earlier, more brittle model), and enjoyed it immensely. It brougt me back into collecting LEGO, and it is a fun build, a great model, and even a bit educational - if a tad nerdish ;)

I've been told that the Tower Bridge is a bit tedious build, but would be great for two people to build together.

natron20

Thanks for the input! Glad to know these will be around for a while. Now, I have to decide to what to pick up tomorrow at TLS tomorrow. Of course, I guess that depends on what they have in stock.......I hate being indecisive.

LegoFanTexas

My understanding is that Tower Bridge and Shuttle are both going out this year.

Or perhaps not, but both are sold out on shop.lego.com, or were yesterday anyway...

JP3804

TOYS R US has 10231 on line for list price and free shipping.

dougts

10231 is on the LEGO EOL list, so that one will be gone before you know it.

natron20

Well, it looks like 10231 will be my primary objective tomorrow. What if TLS I visit tomorrow does not have any in stock? Will they allow me to order one and have it shipped to my house or will they refund my money so I can just order 10231 from TRU?

Thanks, again.

legoprods

Quick question here, do you guys know anything about the first LoTR sets?

Are they going soon, gonna stay?