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  • berniebondberniebond Member Posts: 137
    Ok. New seperate Thread topic:

    Predictions on Discontinuing Millennium Falcons and their Secondary Market Value

    ;-)
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    edited September 2012
    Ok ok. We have moved on. I can't say this won't be discussed again, but for right now we will leave the MF in docking bay 94.

    Move along...move along
  • BrickarmorBrickarmor Member Posts: 1,258
    I am praying to Legod that TB and GE make it into 2013. I've done my prioritizing and decided to cross my fingers on those rather than miss out on the IS and DA. Wisely or not, I've decided to pass entirely on DS, MMV, and FB. Any of those I get will be for keeps not for sale.
  • malleablemalleable Member Posts: 13
    How long will the 2012 Great Vehicles be around? I'm trying to save up for 5 of them, but I know some more are coming in 2013. Will they last past Xmas?
  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 788
    edited September 2012
    flump said:


    The answer to your question referring to the two sets you mention is a simple one; They're are both classics....to us. There is something about that era that I think many will agree on, whereby they seem to hold a 'legend' status for us, even if the set is less impressive than today's. They were from an era that had already stamped the status 'must have' on our brains before the new ones were released.

    This is where I would come and say, I wouldn't care if my #7674 V-19 Torrent fell to the floor, but if my #7161 Gungan Sub slid just a tad over an edge, I would grab it in my hands and gasp breathlessly of fear. Now that would apply to any of my classic Podracers as well, but they seem to be much easier to handle when it comes to breaking them. These two sets are classics and legends to me, especially since I got them when I was little so that even enhances the "Legendary" feel of them.

    Anyhow, how does it look like for the Death Star to make it to Black Friday/Cyber Monday? Lacking proper funds right now, I can't exactly take advantage of things just yet, but I need that thing soo bad!!
  • gmpirategmpirate Member Posts: 1,654
    ^ Just look back a few years in this forum for advice. Then you can apply the advice attained to your thinking this time next year as well . . .
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,755
    Brickarmor said:

    I am praying to Legod that TB and GE make it into 2013. I've done my prioritizing and decided to cross my fingers on those rather than miss out on the IS and DA. Wisely or not, I've decided to pass entirely on DS, MMV, and FB. Any of those I get will be for keeps not for sale.

    The scary thing I'm not sure if either will be around after Christmas.. Theoretically the GE should be if all of the mods time of production had a year added, otherwise it may be gone this year as well.. I m pretty sure someone had a list that we all dismissed as not accurate, but FB has been out until 2012 when many of us thought 'no way' and that list also had GE EOL at the same time if I remember correctly. Tower bridge is iffy.. not entirely sure.. if I could get them for a good deal maybe, but I just do not have that kind of money to take that risk right now. I know it will be close to be being out for two years this Winter.
    Bottom line, if you see a set you want on sale for BF, do not hesitate.. most sets that go on sale for BF do so because they want the stock gone.
  • kim43235kim43235 Member Posts: 165
    Minecraft has been out of stock at amazon for over two weeks. [email protected] has no notion of when these will be back in stock. Price keeps hiking up in ebay and amazon. When I bought some from amazon few weeks ago, I thought it's going to come back so I sold them quickly on. Maybe I should have waited longer?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    ^ Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, so to speak... :)

    I sold my Mindcraft sets off early as well, but still doubled my money in a week. Not a bad deal when you consider that they can come back into stock at any time.
  • nkx1nkx1 Member Posts: 719
    ^If I'm not mistaken, Downtown Disney store had a bunch when I was there yesterday. If I weren't going on vacation soon for a couple weeks, I'd seriously consider buying a bunch to make some easy cash. Can't believe they're going for $80+ on ebay!
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    LegoFanTexas said:

    ^ Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, so to speak... :)

    I sold my Mindcraft sets off early as well, but still doubled my money in a week. Not a bad deal when you consider that they can come back into stock at any time.

    I'm not touching that one ;)

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    ^ Ok, I must be dense... huh?
  • prevereprevere Member Posts: 2,923
    Just sold my last one too. I figured these have to be back in stock this fall.
  • RennyRenny Member Posts: 1,145
    edited September 2012
    I still have 2 copies which I will hold onto. Last time I had 5 I sold them too quickly. I still doubled my investment but in only a few weeks since selling them they were selling at 4x rrp. Crazy.
  • BuriedinBricksBuriedinBricks Member Posts: 1,367
    I had one I was holding on to, but went ahead and listed it this weekend. It was only up for about 2 hours before it sold at more than double what I paid for it. Even after taking fees into account.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    LegoFanTexas said:

    ^ Ok, I must be dense... huh?

    No, I just have a dirty mind ;)

  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,755
    What is funny is that LEGO does not even have a backorder status on Minecraft sets, just 'Temporarily out of stock' so you I believe you cannot even place an order.. if this continues through the holidays the price is going to be insane for these
  • prevereprevere Member Posts: 2,923
    ^Noticed that too. I still believe these will all of a sudden become active any day now.

    That said, if that happens - will Lego make a big batch or just another small one that will get gobbled up in seconds?
  • RennyRenny Member Posts: 1,145
    I think their wording if I remember correctly was that enough would be made to last the rest of the year. Not sure how many units that means or if it was just PR since they have been out of stock for quite some time now.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,755
    Im guessing that if LEGO makes these again, they will make A LOT of these.
    Especially since Im sure they are called every day at their customer service asking for these (and not just by resellers Im sure)
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 889
    ^ The official response from TLG in this regard was that they were producing a large run for the holidays, so they're coming back in stock at some point.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas Member Posts: 8,404
    ^ Yes, that is what I've read as well, they made 10,000 as an initial batch, then the second batch was something like 100,000.

    It still won't be enough... :)

    So much for the "just in time" production vaunted by the Ultimate Factories show on Lego, that they can shift production to produce in demand sets within 10 days. :)

    If TLG does Portals, they would be wise to make a half million of them in the first run. They won't, but they should. :)
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    Okay...I have a serious question...not being cynical at all...

    What is the attraction to Minecraft? I understand the price increase due to rarity, but what is special about this set? Seriously...
  • dougtsdougts Member Posts: 4,110
    ^ nothing other than it's relative scarcity and the novelty of owning it for Minecraft fans.
  • thorniethornie Member Posts: 245
    ^ The connection to the iconic and mega selling video game.
  • doriansdaddoriansdad Member Posts: 1,337
    Farmer_John said:

    Okay...I have a serious question...not being cynical at all...

    What is the attraction to Minecraft? I understand the price increase due to rarity, but what is special about this set? Seriously...

    I don't get it either but to each his own I guess. Official Nintendo sets I would be all over, Minecraft not so much.

  • Penkid11Penkid11 Member Posts: 788
    Farmer_John said:

    Okay...I have a serious question...not being cynical at all...

    What is the attraction to Minecraft? I understand the price increase due to rarity, but what is special about this set? Seriously...

    Ask the 1,000,000+ players that need to have as much of the coolest colectables they can have. It is also the only Minecraft building set. It's the only toy that allows you to do what you actually do in game.
  • prevereprevere Member Posts: 2,923
    ^doriansdad

    Old-school NES games w/ box and instructions can go for big bucks too!
  • FatMattFatMatt Member Posts: 502
    Off topic I know, but I can not seem to find the minifig gallery on the website. The site has been chaged a little since I last looked at it. Was it moved? Please help:)
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,755
    Im just guessing here but the big proponents of the game
    Penkid11 said:

    Farmer_John said:

    Okay...I have a serious question...not being cynical at all...

    What is the attraction to Minecraft? I understand the price increase due to rarity, but what is special about this set? Seriously...

    Ask the 1,000,000+ players that need to have as much of the coolest colectables they can have. It is also the only Minecraft building set. It's the only toy that allows you to do what you actually do in game.
    You're absolutely correct... now if LEGO would just make OTHER sets that would do what Minecraft does... oh wait, they do. ;-)

    Basically you are paying for those unique pieces that represent the characters in the game, and it is more sought after due to resellers and not the popularity IMO..

  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    madforLEGO said:


    Basically you are paying for those unique pieces that represent the characters in the game, and it is more sought after due to resellers and not the popularity IMO..

    If it sells out so quick, then resellers are obviously part of it. But popularity must also be driving this. Resellers are reselling quickly to make a good return. Something is driving that resale market. Popularity or other resellers? I doubt it is just resellers buying from resellers.
  • BELTRADBELTRAD Member Posts: 91
    CCC said:



    If it sells out so quick, then resellers are obviously part of it. But popularity must also be driving this. Resellers are reselling quickly to make a good return. Something is driving that resale market. Popularity or other resellers? I doubt it is just resellers buying from resellers.

    Lol I love that idea that whole lego aftersales market is just resellers buying from re sellers and no one noticed yet :) That would be funny.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    It's not the whole aftermarket, but there is a fair number of us that buy from each other.
  • FatMattFatMatt Member Posts: 502
    Once more, can anyone please tell me how to find the minifig gallery on here, or does it exist anymore. Thank you.
  • thorniethornie Member Posts: 245
    CCC said:

    madforLEGO said:


    Basically you are paying for those unique pieces that represent the characters in the game, and it is more sought after due to resellers and not the popularity IMO..

    If it sells out so quick, then resellers are obviously part of it. But popularity must also be driving this. Resellers are reselling quickly to make a good return. Something is driving that resale market. Popularity or other resellers? I doubt it is just resellers buying from resellers.
    Agreed. I can tell you that video game licenses are a MASSIVE untapped audience for LEGO. There a ton of gamers out there that are waiting to come out of their dark age, and classic video game sets will get them to do it.
    Dougout
  • roxioroxio Member Posts: 1,383
    @Fatmatt
    just switch the search parameter on the front page to minifig
    e.g

    http://www.brickset.com/minifigs/browse/?theme=Batman
  • FatMattFatMatt Member Posts: 502
    ^Thanks, Roxio:)
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    < idea> I'm going to manipulate the market on LEGO set (fill in the blank). I am going to buy every one that I can for 6 full months. Whether on Amazon, eBay, BrickLink.... Then, the price will shoot up and up. Then, I will sell, sell, sell. :-)
  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 1,291
    edited September 2012
    cloaked7 said:

    < idea> I'm going to manipulate the market on LEGO set (fill in the blank). I am going to buy every one that I can for 6 full months. Whether on Amazon, eBay, BrickLink.... Then, the price will shoot up and up. Then, I will sell, sell, sell. :-)

    Go for it, I see no risk in that... lol

    On a similar theme, you could go buy all of a single part that is in plenty now, but may not be tomorrow. The bley levers in 2010 for example.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    thornie said:

    CCC said:

    madforLEGO said:


    Basically you are paying for those unique pieces that represent the characters in the game, and it is more sought after due to resellers and not the popularity IMO..

    If it sells out so quick, then resellers are obviously part of it. But popularity must also be driving this. Resellers are reselling quickly to make a good return. Something is driving that resale market. Popularity or other resellers? I doubt it is just resellers buying from resellers.
    Agreed. I can tell you that video game licenses are a MASSIVE untapped audience for LEGO. There a ton of gamers out there that are waiting to come out of their dark age, and classic video game sets will get them to do it.
    I don't really know how popular mine craft is, but I would much prefer sets from Halo, Call of Duty and Resident Evil.

    Dougout
  • graphitegraphite Member Posts: 3,275
    ^ All 3 don't really fit LEGO's toy direction in terms of being kid friendly and not real world warfare type of stuff. Plus MegaB's has Halo.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    Yes, I know, but they do make Zombies and Monster fighters and in Resident Evil, that is what they are doing. Megabloks does have Halo, but didn't they have Pirates of the Caribbean and Marvel? Last but not least, we had German and Russian soldiers in Raiders.
  • The_MackThe_Mack Member Posts: 239
    edited September 2012
    Megabloks also has World of Warcraft, another huge gaming license. Megabloks did have Pirates of the Caribbean, and then LEGO had it later. Kind of interesting to compare the sets.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    I've never played WoW, but the characters are very elaborate and aren't there a lot of huge monsters and what not? I guess we are getting off the subject. I still won't buy Minecraft.
  • BanditBandit Member Posts: 889
    ^^^ all those games are rated M. Not gonna happen.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    Yeah, I know it won't happen :(
  • Steve_J_OMSteve_J_OM Member Posts: 993
    Pitfall69 said:

    Yes, I know, but they do make Zombies and Monster fighters and in Resident Evil, that is what they are doing. Megabloks does have Halo, but didn't they have Pirates of the Caribbean and Marvel? Last but not least, we had German and Russian soldiers in Raiders.

    No offence, but I think when people use this argument they consistently overlook one very very important consideration: context.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    edited September 2012
    Explain.

    I play Call of Duty, Resident Evil and Halo. All these games are mature, yet most of the people playing these games are children. These same people probably play Minecraft. I know 2 of my friends do. I still have no interest.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    Anyway, we have went off topic. I know there is a thread for this specific subject.

    No offense taken by the way :)
  • Steve_J_OMSteve_J_OM Member Posts: 993
    I went looking for the other thread but couldn't find it. Just quickly since we're OT, I'm talking about the argument about perceived double standards from TLG - i.e. why they will produce zombies for Monster Fighters, but wouldn't touch Resident Evil. Both have zombies, but they are worlds apart in terms of tone and content. It's the same deal with having Nazis in Indiana Jones but not producing Call of Duty sets. If anyone has a link to the other thread handy I'd happily continue in there :)

    To veer things back on topic, I think I'm finally ready to pull the trigger on the UCS IS. I was hoping to wait until next year but all the talk on the forum, even if it is just speculation, has me convinced that I can't take the risk. I just have to plan things carefully - I also want to make my first foray into modulars, which means picking up the Fire Brigade ASAP. I actually much prefer the look of the GE, but I have to take the risk that it won't disappear as quickly.
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