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Lego Dimensions

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  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,698
    Oh no.  Look away James.

  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,592
    So that's how a hoverboard works. If only Ali G had known.



  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,936
    Not going to lie, I can see how the Chell rumour got started now. Thanks.
    Andor
  • dragon114dragon114 United StatesMember Posts: 632
    If you look at the top of the box you can see Bart Simpson and some chima figs.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    I just can't believe the rumour had legs from that image
    ShibBumblepantsLostInTranslation
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    ^especially when it was an image posted to reddit, which I've seen little explanation of where the image was taken from, so even if legit it could just be placeholder minifigure images. I don't mind speculation but some people are sourcing this as if it's some kind of fact.
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,936
    edited April 2015
    I just can't believe the rumour had legs from that image
    Right - the image could be of Chell. It seems to have orange legs, a white top, and to be holding a white accessory. But it's so fuzzy, it could be literally any figure with orange legs. And that's before questioning the source of the image or anything. But still - it's the internet! What did you expect? :-P

    [Edit] - I've finally pinned down what I think is dodgy about that image. The groupings of figures make no sense. They're not grouped by franchise or even by 'owner' (WB, Marvel, Disney, whatever). They seem to be totally random. If I was designing a box, I would put figs from similar franchises next to each other. Even the gaps between figs don't come between logical groups.
    Andor
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,592
    ^ I was thinking the same. They only thing I could think of was by date to be released.

  • MODVLEXMODVLEX Czech RepublicMember Posts: 24
    I was thinking that perhaps the organization might take into account what type of expansion they come in (i.e. fun packs, character packs).
    plasmodium
  • Kevin_HyattKevin_Hyatt UKMember Posts: 778
    If we're projecting wants onto fuzzy images then I declare 26 to be Judge Dredd!
    VorpalRyuShib
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,239
    ^ GOLD! & we all know 27 is Mork :wink:
    Kevin_HyattShibxiahna
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,592
    And 43 is the invisible man.
    VorpalRyuKevin_Hyatt
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    edited May 2015
    I've just seen an article saying that Disney Infinity 3.0 is going to have a Star Wars focus, with a picture of the box art/starter pack that looks pretty convincing to me. The article lists the price for it as £51 - if true I think Lego Dimensions is really going to struggle against that at nearly twice the cost
    - to be fair it looks  like their source was a German video game shop that listed it early at €69.99 so the UK price may or may not reflect that - apparently that listing has been taken down though.
    VorpalRyu
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    edited May 2015
    Yep, its been known for a while that DI3 would be Star Wars, and the cost is in line with DI2 which was Marvel themed. So long as its backward compatible with earlier figures, i suspect it will wipe the floor with Dimensions.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    ^I don't see why it wouldn't be backwards compatible either as DI2 was...it seems like Dimensions is being set up for a fall here.
  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    DI3 characters wont work with DI2 according to box art leaked a couple of weeks back but that's probably unsurprising. I suspect DI1 and DI2 characters will work in DI3's toybox just like DI1s did in DI2. I'd be surprised if they offer more than that though there's no real technical reason that should be the case, it'll probably be a commercial decision revolving around shifting more copies of the ~£50 starter bundles.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    Yep that's exactly the same as DI2.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    The biggest problem with DI2 was that it wouldn't use playsets from DI1.  I.e. Cars, Lone Ranger, etc.  It'll be really crappy if that happens again, and you won't be able to use all the Marvel playsets on DI3.

    For the record, I plan on getting both it and Dimensions and let the spoiled kids decide :)
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,936
    ^For science, right?
    TheLoneTensorAndorlegomattGalactus
  • BollymanBollyman London UKMember Posts: 7
    New information people heard from the brickinquirer podcast!
    Sourced from a major US retailers website listings. no pictures or details of vehicles were seen just the basic formats ie Fun pack (Benny) or Level pack (Back to the Future)
    Confirmed 2 level packs, 2 team packs, 3 character packs
    Character packs
    Laval
    Cragger
    Eris

    Team packs
    Scooby-doo no details on what 2 figs but going by box top, scooby shaggy
    Jurassic World again no details on two figs but going by other team packs having their two minifigs next to each other, any ideas what two figs next to each other? one is likely to be chris pratts character

    Level packs
    Simpsons no details on fig or extras but likely to be Homer as hes next to marty
    Portal Yes this is coming the position of the fig thats supposedly chell fits with this information as well.
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,936
    Bollyman said:

    Portal Yes this is coming the position of the fig thats supposedly chell fits with this information as well.
    Standing by to eat my hat.
    ShibVorpalRyuAndorEddieDoesntMindBumblepants
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    Apparently Walmart listed a Portal Level pack which has subsequently been pulled.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,707
    I wonder if this was in the works way back when Portal hung around for and extra Cuusoo review and then got passed on?
  • MODVLEXMODVLEX Czech RepublicMember Posts: 24
    I'm still not entirely convinced. Several people have said that it may be "a portal," with a lowercase P, as appears in the starter set, as opposed to a tie-in with said game.
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Sofia BG/Dallas TXMember Posts: 5,707
    Well at least we can get some more Eris and Laval minifigs without paying wacky aftermarket prices now. Whew.
    binaryeyeTheLoneTensorAndorRonyar
  • dannyrwwdannyrww WisconsinMember Posts: 1,330
    MODVLEX said:
    I'm still not entirely convinced. Several people have said that it may be "a portal," with a lowercase P, as appears in the starter set, as opposed to a tie-in with said game.
    I was wondering about that as the portal had an odd price compared to the levels of sets we have seen thus far. I also wonder if Portal is main stream enough for this game(in other words I have no idea what it is). Now this does not mean that it is not part of the game...Back to the Future seems an odd choice in my mind (though I am excited about it) and I do think for this game to really work it needs some things that are a surprise. Wizard of Oz certainly helped get the ball rolling.
    MODVLEX
  • MODVLEXMODVLEX Czech RepublicMember Posts: 24
    I had heard of Portal but it's my understanding that it's relatively mainstream among teenage/adult PC gamers but for the kid who thinks toys to life is an inherently cool concept they're probably unaware of it. Wizard of Oz and BttF are probably more accessible to kids and more likely to get exposed to kids via parents.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    The logic I can see is that Portal might want to get a younger audience interested in the game series to work as pre advertising for future games.

    Until I see anything official I'll remain skeptical, but I don't think that there's any franchise that could convince me the starter pack + the addition level pack is worth the UK RRP that's been listed.
    VorpalRyuAndor
  • SuperTrampSuperTramp City 17Member Posts: 1,021
    edited May 2015
    Valve don't need Lego to help advertise their games.

    Im a huge fan of the HL/portal universe and ive zero interest in seeing it in Lego form, no matter how cheap it is.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    They don't need it but with the current popularity of LEGO they might want it, or see huge potential benefit.
    Andor
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,592
    edited May 2015
    MODVLEX said:
    I'm still not entirely convinced. Several people have said that it may be "a portal," with a lowercase P, as appears in the starter set, as opposed to a tie-in with said game.
    It wouldn't surprise me, the portal plays a big part in the advert.


  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    ^^ Although really very little benefit at all. Portal2 is 4 years old, theres no upcoming portal game on the horizon. It makes no sense.
    MODVLEX
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    edited May 2015

    I don't know the ins and outs of what games might be being developed for future but plenty of companies have used toys etc aimed at kids far younger than their target age to set a subconscious market for the future.

    Also the money from the licensing agreement could be used for further game development.


    FYI I remain skeptical until I see anything official, it's not unheard of for companies to list preorders on rumours to gauge interest if the rumours turn out true. I'm just playing devils advocate on the idea that it might happen.

  • SuperTrampSuperTramp City 17Member Posts: 1,021
    edited May 2015
    cheshirecat said:
    ^^ Although really very little benefit at all. Portal2 is 4 years old, theres no upcoming portal game on the horizon. It makes no sense.
    Exactly. No one knows but Valve about their current developments, they are probably the most secretive game companys out there. I would have also thought HL3/Episode 3 would be the next in line and thats not even been confirmed yet. You also have to remember has well, they are a relatively small company compared to some of the big names out there who work on such rubbish like COD, They tend to only work on one title at a time.

    Lets also not forgot L4D 3 which is also rumored to be in the pipeline and i would thought will 100% come before Portal 3.

    Also not 100% sure, but they have only just completed the new source engine 2 which will run said games.

    So yes, could understand Portal being on Lego dimensions if the release date was 2025



  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    if anyone's curious about the Walmart listing it's still available from cached data ( http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:XPLfUU4uW1sJ:www.walmart.com/ip/38662001+&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk )

    It doesn't mention Portal anywhere but the title (interestingly for those hypothesising it refers to the starter pack's portal that's actually called the vortex in the description) so it's very possible that it was listed based on the rumours already circulating.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited May 2015
    I'm guessing that this is just the game and a portal with no chars/vehicles (for those that don't want Batman, Gandalf, etc.).  The $59 price point kinda fits for this.
    binaryeye
  • Kevin_HyattKevin_Hyatt UKMember Posts: 778
    I just saw the Disney Infinity 3.0 Star Wars trailer. If its true that it'll be £50 and LEGO Dimensions is £100 I can't see there being much competition.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited May 2015
    It's a good question right?  Clearly this means we aren't going to be seeing any Star wars or Marvel content (or anything else Disney for that matter) in Dimensions.  Now that I really think about that, considering the increased price point, I'm not quite sure I'm going to be on the front line for buying it after all, and instead might wait a couple months to see how it fares.
    Andor
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    Even had it been £70 RRP in the UK I wouldnt have been interested in buying until the price drops, at £100 it'll need to be at least 50% off before i even consider it.
    SuperTrampKevin_Hyatt
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    I suspect I'll wait till its around 70% off, if the game us worth getting. I still can't see the rrp being £100. That's just batshit crazy.
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    edited May 2015
    ^the only justification I've heard for the price that makes sense is that it might be that the decision was based on cost of a starter pack being £70 and the cortex and mini figures being something like a £25-£30 LEGO set - which of course no customer would be happy with as an explanation but there is a certain amount of crappy "lets squeeze every penny out of the customer" logic.

    To be honest if it is £100 RRP in the UK it can't see it selling and anyone stocking it will likely slash prices. 
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802
    Shib said:
    ^the only justification I've heard for the price that makes sense is that it might be that the decision was based on cost of a starter pack being £70 and the cortex and mini figures being something like a £25-£30 LEGO set - which of course no customer would be happy with as an explanation but there is a certain amount of crappy "lets squeeze every penny out of the customer" logic.

    To be honest if it is £100 RRP in the UK it can't see it selling and anyone stocking it will likely slash prices. 
    Additionally, competing games like Skylanders and Disney Infinity make you buy a new starter pack each year in order to use that year's new figures. So for instance, Skylanders: Giants figures won't work with an original Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure starter set, Skylanders: Swap Force figures won't work with a Skylanders or Skylanders Giants starter set, and Skylanders: Trap Team figures won't work with any of the previous starter sets.

    By contrast, LEGO Dimensions is being purposefully marketed as "future-proof" — in other words, all future LEGO Dimensions expansion sets will be compatible with the current starter set. So LEGO might be counting on that to help their starter set stand out as more valuable than those of their competitors. Whether buyers care enough about that to look past that high price tag, well, that remains to be seen.
    Andor
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,592
    It's not always a good thing. Future proof can mean no significant improvements in future, to ensure backwards compatibility.
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,239
    ^ Unless Lego plans to release update files regularly with all the new data for the new sets released later, or the game disc contains all the data for all future releases, there will be a new starter pack eventually.

    If they plan to release updates for new packs as they come out, this will get costly, at least on the console networks. This costs game devs big money & someone has to foot the bill.

    If they are including all the data on the disc, they can only store a finite amount of characters, maps, etc, no matter how good the compression is. If all the data is there, this game will run its course & be done within one or two, possible three upgrades of the other toys to life games.
    xiahna
  • AanchirAanchir United StatesMember Posts: 2,802
    VorpalRyu said:
    ^ Unless Lego plans to release update files regularly with all the new data for the new sets released later, or the game disc contains all the data for all future releases, there will be a new starter pack eventually.

    If they plan to release updates for new packs as they come out, this will get costly, at least on the console networks. This costs game devs big money & someone has to foot the bill.

    If they are including all the data on the disc, they can only store a finite amount of characters, maps, etc, no matter how good the compression is. If all the data is there, this game will run its course & be done within one or two, possible three upgrades of the other toys to life games.
    Is patching a game really that expensive? I was under the impression that these days digitally releasing a patch was easier than ever. And I was also under the impression that the need to install occasional patches to allow for new characters and levels was the reason the box for the starter pack says "Internet connection required".
    Andor
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,239
    ^ From all I've heard/read about it, at least with Microsoft & Sony, its another bite of the cherry, game devs have to use their servers which they lease based on arcane equations about data storage require & server traffic. Their excuse is that its to make devs fix their games properly the first time, but it apparently applies to DLC as well, which would explain the cost of a lot of DLC.
    xiahna
  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    Patching only used to be a probably because Microsoft et. al. charged around £50k to certify each update.

    They don't do that any more, so the cost is gone. This was led in large part by Minecraft, which is successful in part because it's continuously updated and they had a choice, drop the charge and allow games to update and improve, or don't and fail to get big games like Minecraft on your platform.

    This has been important, as games like Grand Theft Auto, and Diablo 3 also continuously add content and are massive sellers.

    Given that some games, such as Halo: The Master Chief collection had a 20gb day 1 patch on the XBox One and was only selling for £30 - £40 at release, I don't see that content packs selling at £30 and probably only containing 500mb - 2gb of content at most will be cost prohibitive to distribute digitally. The content pack toy is effectively just a flashy DLC code at the end of the day, you stick it on the platform and that enables you do download and use it. Microsoft gets a cut of the sale of the content pack (which it gets anyway on all XBox products because the branding is licensed, and you can't release unbranded Xbox games).

    The same is largely true for Sony and it's network and policies.

    There is no cost reason why continuous updates would be a problem on both current and last gen consoles nowadays.
    VorpalRyu
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,239
    ^ Good to know Microsoft & Sony have realised that the practice was impacting on gaming & therefore, their consoles & have ended it. Just curious, what was the official date each put a stop to it?
    xiahna
  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    I don't know about Sony, but Microsoft stopped the practice with the release of Minecraft on the Xbox 360.

    I'm not convinced it's 100% good for gamers though - look at the tat we've had released. Assassins Creed Unity was outright broken on release, as was Battlefield 4. At least with charging for updates it forced developers to get it right the first time, or face a penalty for having to correct afterwards.

    Really, it's a double edged sword. We can now have more dynamic content in games, but we also have to suffer games that are outright broken on release with the attitude of "let's fix it later as there's no cost to doing so now".
    VorpalRyudougts
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 5,159
    Hurried out games with what's touted as "Free DLC" annoy me no end when you realise that the free DLC is just the stuff they didn't get round to. I know people get annoyed when release dates are moved but personally I'd rather wait longer and have a complete game from day one of release than play a broken game for two months while they sort out a patch. I know it's not a new thing but some people are completely blind to the fact it's happening for some reason.
    VorpalRyuAndor
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