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Yellow brick, 2 x 2 with Wheels?

MrTjipsMrTjips Member Posts: 32
Does anybody knows in which set these wheels with a yellow 2x2 brick were used?


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  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    It looks like there was one with treaded tires in #213. Perhaps the treaded tires were replaced with smooth tires. It's been a while since I've looked at the ones I have, but I think the wheel is the same and will fit either tire.
  • MrTjipsMrTjips Member Posts: 32
    I don't think the tires were replaced because on Bricklink three sellers are offering these wheels with smooth ones.

    My brick looks old, like the pre-abs bricks altough it is a abs-brick
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734
    MrTjips said:
    I don't think the tires were replaced because on Bricklink three sellers are offering these wheels with smooth ones.
    The fact that they're selling them doesn't eliminate the possibility of the tires being replaced.
  • MrTjipsMrTjips Member Posts: 32
    Suppose you're right, in which set came this yellow brick?

    But I'm not convinced about the tire, I still believe that it is the smooth one.

  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    Both Peeron and Bricklink have that part in yellow appearing in only one set ( #213 as above) so although there may be one that isn't known / hasn't been inventoried or a variation on the normal contents, it would seem far more likely that it has just had the tires changed (they were completely interchangeable between the smooth and treaded).
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,349
    Where @Istokg :smile:  I bet he would know
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,099
    OK I checked these out..... yes it is possible that someone could have changed the wheels from those with traction to the smooth ones.  

    But I have a feeling that these might be original.  I did some investigating of sets, especially Samsonite mini-wheel sets (starting in 1970), and I could not find any sets that these may have come from.   My best guess at the moment is that these could be model shop inventory that got out.  There are other strange parts from the 1970s that found their way to the secondary market in odd colors, so I think that these may have been among them.
    MrTjipsmadforLEGO
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    edited April 2015
    ^ Out of interest why - you've found absolutely zero evidence that they ever came with smooth wheels. The colour isn't particularly odd as we know there's a set with a yellow wheel block, but with treaded tires. Back as a boy I would change the tyres on these or the wheel plates between smooth and treaded almost daily depending on what I was building. @MrTjips hasn't given any idea of why he thinks its original other than three bricklink sellers (which really doesn't prove anything) so by far the most likely explanation is a tire swap. I don't really care, but just a little perplexed given the most obvious possibility.
  • MrTjipsMrTjips Member Posts: 32
    I've got these wheels from and old lady who once owned a toy shop. She kept many sets and parts (mostly for her children) and she was selling it some years ago.  I bought many old sets  from her and all of them came with the original parts and some of it with the original boxes. 

    The Lego I bought from her were mainly from the sixties, and the first years of the seventies. 

    The lady dies a few years ago so I can not ask her if she changed the tires...

    I have seen more odd bricks, and as Istokg said there are more found. 
  • IstokgIstokg MichiganMember Posts: 2,099
    In my 8 years of researching LEGO sets/parts/history et al.... I have found that trying to make sense of everything that I have found.... is a very frustrating task.  I call it LEGO Mayhem.   Some things about LEGO... just do not make sense.

    Here's a few examples....  this is how a 1960-65 sealed basic 700/0 set (largest of the basic sets in Europe/UK/Aus) is supposed to look when it is intact with the shrink wrap in place over the lower box contents....



    Always red/white bricks laid out in a general checkerboard pattern (with a few clear ones added, and some round bricks in assorted colors).... a set of all the different classic windows/doors 2 trees and 2 4x8 white plates, and a pair of gray 10x20 baseplates.

    However here is a different shrinkwrapped version of the same set.... gone crazy....



    This set defies all the principles of the LEGO basic sets... no checkerboard layout, just a random parts assembly with no rhyme or reason.... a white 1x6x3 Panorama window replaced one of the white 4x8 baseplates.... and i see something i have never ever seen before in ANY of the 700/0 thru 700/6 basic sets... a black brick.  This is LEGO gone totally crazy.... but it is a MISB sealed set.  Had this set been opened... I and all my collector friends would agree that this was not original.... but it is!!

    And this is just one of over 100 anomalies I have found over my 8 years of researching old LEGO.   Things that really don't make sense happening.

    Now in the case of those 2x2 yellow axle bricks with smooth tires.... we have no way to prove that they weren't switched at some point.  But I know better than to not keep an open mind that these may indeed have originally been found that way.... be it from a model shop.... or even from a #213 set that had the wrong wheels attached.

    When it comes to LEGO.... I always look at the unexpected.... and keep an open mind on whether something is original or not!!

    I could go on about a dozen other sets that come in some strange variations... but you get my point.

    It is easy to explain away some things as just switching something simple such as tires.... but I am always open to the possibility of things actually being original.

    I've made the wrong assumption several times on things I've dismissed as being replaced or changed.... only later to find another example of the exact same peculiar scenario!   :)

    timinchicagobluemodern
  • MrTjipsMrTjips Member Posts: 32
    Istokg said:

    I've made the wrong assumption several times on things I've dismissed as being replaced or changed.... only later to find another example of the exact same peculiar scenario!   :)

    This is exactly the way I look at the old parts. That's why I kept this yellow brick as I found it in a box filled with other old parts...
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