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Fake or real IAJ001

In the attached picture the figure on the left is (I am 99.9% sure) a genuine IAJ001 Indiana Jones minifigure. On the right is another copy of what I initially thought was the same figure. Its isn't so easy to see in the picture so I'll list the differences here:

*Printing on the legs is lower down.
*The shirt appears to be light tan rather than very slightly blue.
*The plastic of the legs and hat are a slightly different colour.
*The pattern of crumples on the shirt doesn't quite match.
*The buckles on the belts are not shiny.

Normally a fake can be identified by the lack of LEGO logo or other identifying marks but the figure on the right has these markings:

*Body - 'LEGO' embossed at the top of the neck with the 'L' towards the front. The real one has the 'O' at the front.
*Legs - '(c)LEGO' embossed at the top running front to back. The real one has 'LEGO' running right to left. The suspected fake also has '8B' and '2B' inside the legs whereas the real just has '1' in each leg.
*Hat - '10-01' embossed on the rim. '7-01' is embossed on the real hat, although I have also seen other numbers on other hats.

I've not seen fakes before that actually go to these lengths so is it a fake or defective or something else?

Comments

  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,260
    Could the one on the right be from a magnet set? The colour of the legs looks a little softer to me which might suggest it is made of lower quality plastic, like most of the magnet minifigures.
    andhe
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,685
    The magnet set I have just asked my son to peel from his bedroom radiator has the torso from the left but the legs from the right.
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,152
    Just checked a stack of my minifigs, from my '70's space men through to my CMF, Ultra Agents, Marvel & my sons' new City stuff.

    All the figures I have from the '70's to the '90's have LEGO printed across the waist from lug to lug, while my new stuff '10 til now, LEGO is printed from the front to the back, or from the back to the front, both with & without the ©.

    The neck lugs are a mix for both old & new, some with L at the front, others with O.
    xiahna
  • natro220natro220 USAMember Posts: 540
    Why would someone go through the trouble of making a fake fig worth $3??
    TarDomoPitfall69bobabricks
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,223
    edited March 2015
    I believe it is just a misprint. I have plenty of Lego minifigure misprints.

    http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/6260/harry-potter-peeves-printing-error#latest
  • logicstormlogicstorm UKMember Posts: 97
    Thanks for all the comments so it look most likely I have a magnet minifig with a misprint.
  • GwarslaveGwarslave Member Posts: 6
    The printing is out of scale look at the belt buckle. It's a completely different size and colour as well as the rest of the printing. Dose not look like a misprint a misprint would be to the same scale and colour. Looks like a fake to me. Sorry about your luck.
  • natro220natro220 USAMember Posts: 540
    It makes no sense whatsoever to counterfeit something so common and frankly, worthless. This fig appeared in nearly every IJ set, there are thousands for sale on Bricklink and Ebay, it's not like it's Cloud City Boba Fett or something. It would be like someone making counterfeit pennies.
    VorpalRyuandhe
  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    It's not even the cost that makes me think it's unlikely to be an intricate fake. If you're going to the detail they have wouldn't you just use the exact same numbers and printing as the real thing? Why put slightly different numbers in at all?
    andhe
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 2,626
    edited March 2015
    I grabbed my Indy off my shelf and it looks like the one on the left (which I had been suspicious of as it's got 'squarer' shoulders/collar bone area :P)

    The hat has 3-01 and the leg printing is also like that of the left. At a guess it's just different batches made at different times and possibly in different places. They'd be no real point in counterfeiting it as people have said, and thematically earlier than the stuff currently being faked.
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,152
    If it were a fake, it would have to be one of the highest quality fakes around, but I'd say it was probably made to be used in TLG's magnets product line, the LEGO markings match with several of my minifigures directly from sets purchased off [email protected] & in local retailers (I only grab 100% unmarred boxes).
    xiahna
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,685
    logicstorm, nor is yours.
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,356
    Correct me if I'm wrong on this but, if it is a magnet shouldn't the hands have a casting mark on them since the magnets are made in China? You would just have to pull the hands off to check.
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,152
    Might it have been from a promotional give away? Like when people see certain movies, sometimes a toy company connected to the film gives away cheap, happy meal type toys... Haven't heard of TLG doing this before, but who knows, they may have trialed it somewhere, at some point.
    xiahna
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,356
    I remembered to do a little searching tonight because some people wondered why someone would make a counterfeit minifig that's worth so little. The best answer I can give is the same old one, for profit. Check this one out, they even advertise it's Lego.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/330919864651?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 2,626
    oldtodd33 said:
    I remembered to do a little searching tonight because some people wondered why someone would make a counterfeit minifig that's worth so little. The best answer I can give is the same old one, for profit. Check this one out, they even advertise it's Lego.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/330919864651?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

    I don't think that's fake (I'm only aware of fake series 1 so far...) if I recall correctly the early Lego CMFs were packaged differently in Japan (?). Using those gumball type machines with a different selection of figures available in side A and side B of the machine.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,204
    Yes, that's right. It's not a fake.
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,356
    Then why does it says produced by Takara Tomy?  I am familiar with the Tomy name here in the states if that is the same company. 

      At any rate, with the production of the most recent Simpsons fakes I am very leary of buying anything out of the original Lego packaging.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,204
    edited March 2015
    oldtodd33 said:

    At any rate, with the production of the most recent Simpsons fakes I am very leary of buying anything out of the original Lego packaging.

    If you mean these ones, they are quite easy to spot as fake ...



    Although these ones are better ...


    bobabricks
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,152
    The moment I saw the name Takara Tomy, I thought it was familiar, we have the same vending machines selling Pokemon, toy Mario Karts, etc.

    I'm not surprised TLG did that, the Japanese market is a completely different animal to our markets. Not the first time I've seen a recognisable company's product co-branded with a Japanese corporation, teaming up like this & learning their strategies seem to be smartest route to tapping into the Japanese marketplace.
    xiahna
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Denver 4800 miles to BillundMember Posts: 2,356
    @CCC  I will be laughing at the Simpsons Tower of Orthanc all day long.
    Pitfall69bobabricks
  • scrumperscrumper UKMember Posts: 323
    I hope the replaced the Eye of Sauron with this.
    bobabricks
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