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Star wars UCS At-At rumour....
cavegod
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As posted on Eurobricks....
Okay, update on the rumored 10179 rerelease.
I spoke with the informant over the phone today about whether there was going to be an updated 10179. My bud was at the toy fair in NYC and supposedly they had a private behind closed doors event for dealers that showcased a few products we haven't seen yet. There was a falcon on display that was different than 10179 that had lights and new features.
However, according to my informant, this isn't the new UCS. They aren't remaking 10179. Period. Economically, lego felt it wouldn't work well with their intended market (children) and the price point would have made hard core adult collectors cringe.
I sat there on the phone disappointed when the conversation took another turn. There was another model on display that lego was pitching as the next BIG UCS. As I've stated previously, my informant owns a toy shop and isn't an über Starwars nerd but what was said next instantly turned my dissatisfaction over the rejected 10179 update for what is to come next.
I asked what the model was and what it looked like. I was informed that it has a huge piece count. The informant couldn't remember from months back.
The next part of the conversation, verbatim: (Me in Blue, Informant Black)
"What ship was it?"
"You know I'm not good with the names!"
"Describe it."
"It's a huge walker with for legs. The thing's giant."
"AT-AT, A T A T, Imperial Walker!?!"
"The last thing you said was it. Imperial Walker."
Now, my bud won't know if the lego group will be officially producing this as the UCS until February when the dealer catalog from lego arrives. As I was told, there are always things that are shown to people in the toy industry that never make it into production as is the case with the 10179 update. This could be the same situation with the UCS AT-AT. Will let you all know in Feb.
Additionally, I was informed that my informant was deeply disappointed because he won't be aloud to carry this set and a few others because Lego is only dictating certain stores to sell these exculsives and are continuing to produce "lego store only" exclusives.
I find the possibility of a UCS AT-AT intruiging considering Cavegod's AT-AT on cuusoo. Fits well with this reported Echo Base set. I didn't have time to talk with my informant on Echo Base but I'll see if I can get any info pertaining to that rumor. The Dealer catalog should be out around Feb and we'll get some verification for you all. :thumbup:
Joe
Okay, update on the rumored 10179 rerelease.
I spoke with the informant over the phone today about whether there was going to be an updated 10179. My bud was at the toy fair in NYC and supposedly they had a private behind closed doors event for dealers that showcased a few products we haven't seen yet. There was a falcon on display that was different than 10179 that had lights and new features.
However, according to my informant, this isn't the new UCS. They aren't remaking 10179. Period. Economically, lego felt it wouldn't work well with their intended market (children) and the price point would have made hard core adult collectors cringe.
I sat there on the phone disappointed when the conversation took another turn. There was another model on display that lego was pitching as the next BIG UCS. As I've stated previously, my informant owns a toy shop and isn't an über Starwars nerd but what was said next instantly turned my dissatisfaction over the rejected 10179 update for what is to come next.
I asked what the model was and what it looked like. I was informed that it has a huge piece count. The informant couldn't remember from months back.
The next part of the conversation, verbatim: (Me in Blue, Informant Black)
"What ship was it?"
"You know I'm not good with the names!"
"Describe it."
"It's a huge walker with for legs. The thing's giant."
"AT-AT, A T A T, Imperial Walker!?!"
"The last thing you said was it. Imperial Walker."
Now, my bud won't know if the lego group will be officially producing this as the UCS until February when the dealer catalog from lego arrives. As I was told, there are always things that are shown to people in the toy industry that never make it into production as is the case with the 10179 update. This could be the same situation with the UCS AT-AT. Will let you all know in Feb.
Additionally, I was informed that my informant was deeply disappointed because he won't be aloud to carry this set and a few others because Lego is only dictating certain stores to sell these exculsives and are continuing to produce "lego store only" exclusives.
I find the possibility of a UCS AT-AT intruiging considering Cavegod's AT-AT on cuusoo. Fits well with this reported Echo Base set. I didn't have time to talk with my informant on Echo Base but I'll see if I can get any info pertaining to that rumor. The Dealer catalog should be out around Feb and we'll get some verification for you all. :thumbup:
Joe
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A UCS AT-AT would be an absolute dream although (please don't hunt me down for this) I would be satisfied with a smaller model than the one @cavegod designed. A minifigure scale version would be fantastic and anything larger than that would just go to unnecessary expense in my opinion.
Whether or not these rumours have any truth in them they have got me thinking!
Even in investment threads in this forum, there are loads of folks (the most AFOL of the AFOLs) who miss out on $200 and $250 sets because they didn't feel they could justify the price... until it was too late and the prices began to rise in the aftermarket. For anyone who bought a $1000 set, many would remain sealed, just waiting for it to retire, and then resell.
And that's before you even get to the fact - as the original post says - first and foremost Lego is a toy for children and producing a set that is realistically out of a toy price range doesn't seem to fit with Lego's values.
There are people that don't want a UCS MF because it might devalue their #10719. Mostly those people who spent $2-3,000 for theirs. There are people that missed out on the UCS MF and would definitely want another release. Yes, there will be people that would spend $1,000 for a rehash, but there are still people that would want one, but couldn't justify spending that much. The same reasons why people did not buy 10179 when it was released. When i bought mine, it was heavily discounted $345 on Buy.com. Even then, I feared my wife would kill me in my sleep if I spent that much on a Lego set. I struggled with my purchase.
I am really tired of the whining about missing out on 10179. "I didn't have the money at the time." "I was 8 years old" "I was in college" "I was in my Dark Ages" Give it up already. You can say that about any collectible. I want a 1967 Shelby Cobra. I want Apple stock at the price it was in 1980. We all have missed out on something in our lives and to expect a company to appease people just because they feel entitled is ludicrous. TLG believes that it doesn't make good business sense to release a new UCS MF, so I can accept that.
The fallacy of the theory that only resellers would buy a $1,000 UCF Falcon is that in order for the price to rise post-EOL, SOMEONE, other than a reseller, would have to be buying the sets in order for the demand to raise the post-EOL price. Otherwise, all those resellers would be sitting on those $1,000 falcons forever. Therefore, there would have to be some non-reseller demand or the sets would never sell.
Too bad for me, because now that I am getting back into them I am seeing all the UCS sets that came out when I had disposable income (i.e., "pre-kids") that I would have gladly handed over my money for.
So, unfortunately, I will pine away and think longingly of the sets (particularly the #10179) that will never be mine.
So, I asked her if I could buy a $1,000 Lego set and she said I could if I turn around and sell it for for $2-3,000, but NOT for my collection :(
When I read the OP I did briefly get a little bit excited that Lego may be releasing an updated 10179 and I would consider buying one on ebay if I came into £2000 that I could spend on anything but beyond that I really don't care.
Plus, with the success of The Lego Movie (which had a MF cameo) and the upcoming Star Wars: Episode VII (which will feature the MF) . . . I think there is more than enough desire out there to own one.
As far as price, I can't imagine that there are more folks out there willing to shell out $300 for a brown, box-shaped Sandcrawler than there are that would pay an additional $100 or so for a freakin' Millennium Falcon.
I'm afraid to say a $400 UCS Falcon will likely only get you one two thirds the size of the original. In today's money, I can easily see a replacement retail set of that scale costing in excess of $600.
#7965 that featured in TLM was avaliable for several months after its release so a different bigger model wouldn't be required. The only hope we have that a UCS will be released again would be down to the new movies, but then I think TLG would have trouble coming to terms with the cost of manufacture Vs the rate of return. It didn't sell well the first time at $500, would it today? Possibly given the larger number of AFOLs TLG have reeled in since.
Ep7 is the game changer that will make the market and demand completely different to the release time of 10179. SW Ep7 is perfectly being released a year after TLM, so lego popularity is ridiculously high... if they were ever going to get away with a $1K Star wars set... it would be XMAS 2015.
I guess in essence it would be there own "Ideas" project.
*yes I am aware that the U in UCS means ultimate
That set still looks incredible even today, the only thing that would make it better would be an interior if it is even possible without compromising on stability issues.
I do agree though. The original does look incredible, I got one on release and it is still by far my favourite set.
I would however be daft enough to buy an updated version if available...
Did I miss the UCS AT-AT that some guy said another guy couldn't remember what he saw?
TLG is not going to produce a set over $500.00.
The guy remembered what he saw but didn't know what he saw and told another guy he saw it. He also said the Death Star was retiring.
;-)
I'm expecting to upload my consciousness into a secured server. Then eventually into an android.
Or I'll be a severed head with a dog collar in that barberwater from Futurama...