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  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    I love the train layouts that have a hinged lift up table top like at a bar or pub. It gives you a small area to work and have easy access to all areas of your layout.
    TXLegoguy
  • Faedian7Faedian7 Member Posts: 50
    edited March 2015
    Farmer_John said:
    Has anyone taken the time to substitute colors for the Emerald Night to turn it completely black or some other color? Would love to see pictures of the completed set if some has done this.
    Did it just a couple of months ago!
    PeteMTheLoneTensorPitfall69Farmer_Johnklatu003Sethro3Mynatt
  • sidersddsidersdd Member Posts: 2,432
    Farmer_John said:
    Has anyone taken the time to substitute colors for the Emerald Night to turn it completely black or some other color? Would love to see pictures of the completed set if some has done this.

    I just did an all black one for my LEGO Movie layout for Brickworld Indy last week.  I'll try and post a photo later.
    Farmer_JohnSirBen
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    ^^ Red Night standing by!
    BumblepantsdougtsFurrysaurus
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    M. Night Shyamalan standing by!!!
  • Farmer_JohnFarmer_John Member Posts: 2,405
    edited March 2015
    sidersdd said:

    I just did an all black one for my LEGO Movie layout for Brickworld Indy last week.  I'll try and post a photo later.
    Thank you Sir! Looking forward to it...


    I would really like to see TLG make a greater variety of shapes in what I call the drab colors. When you see images of older trains, they always seem to be darker colors or rusty colored. While TLG does have a lot of good colors, they just don't have them in the shape that I would want/need. A good example is the sliding doors one might see on a rusty-brown railroad car. TLG has these doors in a couple of grays (Part# 4583713); but not in rusty-brown to my knowledge. If TLG would just produce a better selection of good colored train parts, I would be content with MOCing my trains.

    On the subject of space, I've always wanted to build a shelf around the perimeter of a room near the ceiling and install some train tracks on it. I think it would be kind of neat to watch it go, although my wife might not appreciate it. I guess I could periodically attach a couple of Swiffers to it and tell her it was there for dusting purposes.
    Faedian7
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited March 2015
    Farmer_John said:

    On the subject of space, I've always wanted to build a shelf around the perimeter of a room near the ceiling and install some train tracks on it. I think it would be kind of neat to watch it go, although my wife might not appreciate it. I guess I could periodically attach a couple of Swiffers to it and tell her it was there for dusting purposes.
    It is neat, and I highly recommend it (though these aren't Lego)  :)  See also Pitfall's previous posts on the subject.


    Pitfall69Farmer_JohnCircleKBrickDancerChristineVVFollowsCloselyaldreddFaedian7catwrangler
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    ^This is your setup correct @TheLoneTensor ?
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Yeah, it's a great compromise when the wife won't let you have an entire room for trains.
  • samiam391samiam391 Member Posts: 4,492
    edited March 2015
    @TheLoneTensor - What model train are those? Shameless plug-in here, but I do have some old Lionel I'm looking to sell. Don't know if anyone would be interested? I never really thought about asking a LEGO forum.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Those are MTH O scale, same size as Lionel, just a smidge bigger than Lego scale.  If they weren't already up there, the Lego trains would be.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    Didn't MTH buy Lionel? I always wondered exactly how close Lego scale was to O scale. I love MTH Trains.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    It's a partnership, kinda.  The drama is pretty weird actually, as the two companies were bitter enemies but realized they were both better off partnering for some stuff.  MTH now makes Lionel Tinplate trains via licensing with MTH electronics and sounds inside.  This would not be unlike Pepsi bottling and selling Mellow Yellow bottles filled with Mountain Dew.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    My set up is very similar to @TheLoneTensor 's, but mine is at our place of business. The is the only recent picture I have of mine. It is still a work in progress.
    TheLoneTensorRennyklatu003Faedian7
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Every time I see Pitfall's setup (though not pictured here) is his Santa Fe's, and I remember seeing lots of them at TRU on the shelf once and (not really being out of the DA yet) thinking, that's cool, but nah...  Oh the regret.
    MattDawson
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    Ugh, don't even go there. I really wanted 2 Engines. I cannot believe what the cars are going for now.
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,696
    edited March 2015
    ^ You guys could have bought these.
     http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-Trains-Santa-Fe-Super-Chief-Set-Mint-C10-/221666285428?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item339c571774&nma=true&si=6ACD1yrmIWwAYMqmnfY5pviKrHo%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

    Or these. 
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lego-10020-Santa-Fe-Super-Chief-Train-Set-2-engines-5-cars-w-9-Volt-Motor-/121550880799?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item1c4cff401f&nma=true&si=6ACD1yrmIWwAYMqmnfY5pviKrHo%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 993
    Don't get me started on numbered Santa Fe's - thought I was SO SO clever with the 15 or so of these I was selling on eBay back in the day for $60 USD and doubling my money....
    FollowsCloselyTheLoneTensorpharmjodMattDawson
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    Back on target here, I think the Santa Fe would be a fantastic next expert train.  I'm sure I or someone else has already said this, but it's worth repeating.  The war bonnet (on the F3 engine mostly) is the "Coke" of trains.  Most everyone instantly recognizes it as the epitome of toy trains.

    We do have potential patterns though with the last three models, take from them what you will:

    Steam | Diesel | Electric
    Passenger | Freight | Passenger
    Not branded | Branded | Not branded
    Rotary Motor | PF power truck | PF power truck
    Lights | No lights | Lights
    2 carriages (technically) | 2 carriages | 2 carriages
    No support vehicles | 1 support vehicle | No support vehicles
    3 minifigs | 3 minifigs | 6 minifigs

  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    edited March 2015
    So we're expecting a branded freight mag-lev, with pf power, no lights, 2 carriages, 1 support vehicle and 6 minifigs.  ;)

    presumably you can also add

    EUR | US | EUR
  • dragon114dragon114 Member Posts: 642
    If its a freight plz be a CSX train
    TXLegoguy
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited March 2015
    Just another piece of data, train wheels (both flanged and non) are not available in LDD proper.  I hope that doesn't mean a US steamer is off the table.  Then again, I'm not sure what determines what parts do or do not show up in non-extended LDD, so maybe this is not related.
  • klatu003klatu003 Member Posts: 729
    My lest favorite train (of the ones I have) has become the Emerald Night.  It just doesn't run well for me, it goes better in reverse.  There is a hitch in its get-a-long in forward.  Any tuning suggestions from all the train experts on this thread? 
  • oldtodd33oldtodd33 Member Posts: 2,696
    edited March 2015
    ^Check the gears and make sure they are tight but not too tight.

      I wouldn't mind a new steam train or newer diesel/electric train though. I've had enough of the bullet trains for now.

    klatu003
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor Member Posts: 3,937
    edited March 2015
    @klatu003

    1) This mod: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28273&st=75 (scroll down for ThomasB's post)
    2) This mod: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37468
    3) Swapping the 5L drive rod lift arms with 7L lift arms

    Those three, relatively minor upgrades serve to make the engine run much more smoothly.

    klatu003
  • leetshoeleetshoe Member Posts: 262
    sidersdd said:
    Farmer_John said:
    Has anyone taken the time to substitute colors for the Emerald Night to turn it completely black or some other color? Would love to see pictures of the completed set if some has done this.

    I just did an all black one for my LEGO Movie layout for Brickworld Indy last week.  I'll try and post a photo later.
    Oh I went to that last week. Your layout was really nice
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    Lack of space is why I don't have my trains set up at home - I just take them to shows and set them up there instead.
  • KingDaveKingDave Member Posts: 974
    Having just spent the last 36 hours constructing and playing with my nephews new (and first ever) Lego train (#60052 Cargo Train) I thought I would see if anyone has heard anything about any new trains coming along? I know this is probably now just wishful thinking given the total lack of even any rumours of a new expert train, but you never know.

  • kiki180703kiki180703 Member Posts: 1,063
    @KingDave I heard about a Creator Expert Winter Train ( #10254 ) coming this December.
    Rainstorm26fourstudPumpkin_3CK5
  • TigerMothTigerMoth Member Posts: 2,343
    kiki180703 said:
    @KingDave I heard about a Creator Expert Winter Train ( #10254 ) coming this December.
    October. Apparently.
    fourstudkiki180703SumoLegoPumpkin_3CK5AdeelZubair
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    I'm not complaining about this, but it seems like a huge creative short-cut to basically combine the WV with the Expert Train set.

    (I just hope it is good.  Please, please, please!)
    tallblocktookiki180703AdeelZubair
  • tallblocktootallblocktoo Member Posts: 497
    ^Somehow I think we will have a lot of disappointed people!  But here's hoping!
    SumoLegokiki180703dougts
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    ^ There is always someone ready to complain or be critical with the Creator sets...
  • tallblocktootallblocktoo Member Posts: 497
    Personally I think I will be happy with whatever the train looks like but would love to have a beautiful functional train on a short track!  A guy can dream!  Its one series I am sorry to have missed out on a number of previous sets.  
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    I'd mich rather they dispense with the track and mini-build accessories and dedicatell all of the resources on the engine and tender.
    DedgeckolegomentalpharmjodFollowsCloselydougtskiki180703catwrangler
  • DedgeckoDedgecko Member Posts: 798
    SumoLego said:
    I'd mich rather they dispense with the track and mini-build accessories and dedicatell all of the resources on the engine and tender.
    Agreed!  Far too many sets get shortchanged the primary structure to include a mediocre accessory vehicle.
    catwrangler
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,634
    @KingDave Might I suggest getting a Maersk Train off the aftermarket? One of my favorite sets ever. Beautiful locomotive.

    As fun as a winter train will be I expect it will keep us from getting a new Expert train for use in everyday City layouts for a good while unfortunately.
    catwrangler
  • legomentallegomental Member Posts: 370
    A sudden flurry of comments on here had me hoping there were photos of the new offered train! I'm hoping it's a lovely build too
    MattDawsonBumblepantsAdeelZubairFollowsCloselymadforLEGOkiki180703
  • MattDawsonMattDawson Member Posts: 1,488
    If it's available from October it'll probably be revealed in August/early September time(ish), either officially, via the store calendar, or from server updates.

    Or leaks. Leaks can happen too.
    legomentalkiki180703
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    SumoLego said:
    I'd mich rather they dispense with the track and mini-build accessories and dedicatell all of the resources on the engine and tender.
    If they dispense with the track completely in the set, then there is the chance that they don't make it compatible with track (such as MF train).
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,634
    ^Maybe it will be an ice-train and come with med. azure narrow gauge track borrowed from the Friends coaster...
    catwrangler
  • PaperballparkPaperballpark Member Posts: 4,268
    I suspect it'll be a similar size to the #79111 Constitution Train Chase set, with a loop of track and a few trackside builds. That'd be no bad thing, as that was probably one of the best Lego trains there's been in recent years.
    tallblocktoo
  • MattDawsonMattDawson Member Posts: 1,488
    May I butt in and remind everyone that none of the creator trains have come with track, and neither did the last Winter train...
    SumoLegoFollowsCloselymadforLEGOdougtskiki180703AdeelZubaircatwrangler
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,469
    Different time and different market, if it does come without track it will likely be met with harsher criticism than I f it doesn't- yes as AFOLs we generally know that track to s available separately and where to get it, general public not so much.
    I think something similar to constitution train (as @Paperballpark said) is a good guess
    CCCcatwrangler
  • MattDawsonMattDawson Member Posts: 1,488
    ^ fair point - the only place save Smyths I've seen selling track is Lego themselves.
  • playwellplaywell Member Posts: 2,309
    But remember this is not a normal retail set. So if you can find the train you should be able to find the track.
  • dougtsdougts Member Posts: 4,110
    SumoLego said:
    ^ There is always someone ready to complain or be critical with the Creator sets...
    usually with good enough reasons these days
  • theLEGOmantheLEGOman Member Posts: 1,524
    SMC said:
    But remember this is not a normal retail set. So if you can find the train you should be able to find the track.
    It'll be next to the AT-AT ;).
  • KingDaveKingDave Member Posts: 974
    I am hoping that if the new Winter Train sells well TLG may have a re-think about the Expert train line and start making some more. From what I could tell they always seemed to sell well, the secondary market price is always quite high for them so that shows the demand.
    catwrangler
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,229
    dougts said:
    SumoLego said:
    ^ There is always someone ready to complain or be critical with the Creator sets...
    usually with good enough reasons these days
    Aside from the 2015 WV re-tread and Hoth, I don't have much to complain about.  
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