I'm a sucker for AC. Really! All since I played Prince of Persia at my Amiga 500 I have loved "Assassin's Creed". It's my "other" nerd hobby. As many others - I love my other interests to be expressed in LEGO (such as Lord of the Rings). So just to fill up another meaningless thread, I wondered if ASSASSIN'S CREED would be a too big a dare for LEGO?The obvious PRO's:
- it's sold 78 million copies
- a hollywood movie
- LEGO get's an opportunity to release another shipOther great PRO's:
- Multiple pseudo historical time sets opportunities
- Lots of historical characters
So far so good....The CON's
- "assassin's" could give some kids association with murder... but they have done that before! (ref 1
and ref 2
- too much blood... well, we've discussed that before... you can turn the blood option off in the game! (Not that I've tried it)
- You're not allowed to throw with LEGO bricks, specially not if they are directed at people's eyes... but hey, LEGO is making shooting mechanisms all the time. Think about it: How about a shooting mechanism integrated in a MINIFIG? That'd sell massively... I'm convinced!
- It looks too much like Prince of Persia... a theme which flopped I heard! Then again: I'll argue that the movie flopped... not the theme! Kind of like Lone Ranger.
So what'd you think?
(NB! It's not my image... just googled it!)
I've actually seen the Megabloks stuff in stores. Definitely no appeal, in spite of the affiliation with what has become my favorite gaming franchise of the decade. I've resigned myself to accepting what others have already said: the overt, violent nature of the game, not to mention sprinklings of obscenity, sexual themes, and occasional alcoholism, does not bode well to appeal to Lego and its market.
That all said, I read a recent interview with one of the Ubisoft guys about the new Megabloks line, and the question was brought up about how does a violent, mature-level game find itself partnering with a children's toy manufacturer? The answer was actually quite devious. I don't have a link, but the guy stated their plan was not necessarily get kids into the games, but into the "brand" of Assassin's Creed. The Megabloks toys are one entry way into that "world" that they hope will lead to many buying the games, seeing the movie, collecting the action figures, etc. There will be something in the Assassin's Creed brand for all ages.
Shades of Abstergo? Nothing is true...
I think it would be a good idea for Lego to make more sets based on video games, though, as their target fan base probably plays lots of video games. Minecraft is a good place to start, but they could do so much more.
Though that would seem to be more of a marketing ploy then anything else. I have invested too heavily into Lego to go and buy anything else if that means getting a system with different scale elements such as the Modulex bricks. At least that is what I understood having read something about Modulex here some time ago. I don't know if Lego and Modulex are because of this difference still compatible?!
I suppose I am too much of a purist. I don't care for Megablocks, even though I love the Halo games, and some of the Megablocks sets have very nice renditions of the vehicles from the Halo franchise, the figures don't look that appealing to me, plus as others have also mentioned they completely lack any and all of the comical charm of the Lego Minifigure which I am a fan of, and think is so endearing.
I would not mind having a bunch of Assassins Creed CMF's, although fitting one of your PotC minifigs with a Dastan 'backpack sword holder' and a hoody, and an assortment of knives and voila! you have got yourself an Ezio Auditore da Firenze.
(I only played AC II, which btw is a fantastic game and so (too) addictive).
Then again I would love to see a Game of Thrones CMF series too, or better an entire GoT theme.
Then again not having an AC or GoT theme does not prevent you from MOC'cing your own AC or GoT world if you really want to. All you need for that is lots of bricks and in addition some castle and pirate theme Lego elements to dress up your historical AC world.
Big flops!I mean... we got themes.
This is the new though: If LEGO should build a theme around a VIDEO GAME - which should it then be? They are going for Minecraft now, and it sells! So I'm pretty sure their tactical board is considering other videogames right now. AC is better suited than "Call of Duty" or "FIFA 15".
K'nex have quietly been aquiring a lot of computer game licenses, particularly those with Mascot characters.
Personally I'd say the Minecraft license as justification for an Assassins Creed theme is quite a leap. I'd say TLG would are far more likely to consider other "peaceful" games than those with higher age ratings etc. If it was big enough I'd say Animal Crossing. But I can't think of a game with the fanbase that Minecraft has that is low conflict.
*EDIT: So a FIFA theme would be a football association theme rather than that years FIFA game
Themes can be based on
1) TLC own creations (since 1978. First theme out was "Castle", I think)
2) Movie/TV franchises (Since 1999. First theme was "StarWars")
3) Computer games (Since 2012. First (and only) is "Minecraft")
I argued that basing a theme on a Compute game (3) is a new way for LEGO. I think the CUUSOO Minicraft set sold so well, their microworld too, and now in 2014 they got a rather build out theme line. Their tactical group woke up to this market of game-themes. My point is that they sure are considering if other games could turn profitable.
Sure they'd love to go for the kids-friendly versions. But TLC have had to make compromises to most of their principals to follow a theme they produced including sets based on movies that are restricted age 15 and sets that include alcohol, violence, ww2, etc.
The response seemed like you took the comment personally which wasn't my intention at all.
Also, if anyone brings up those Lego guidelines/family values, I point them towards Indiana Jones. Religious artefacts, Nazis and gore, oh my!
But unfortunately, that's not how most people see it. Also, video game players are probably mostly teens-20s and sizable even older group (especially with Assassin's Creed and the like). They're also (for the most part) not the people who are buying Lego.
While you may say that Lego would be opening up a new market for themselves, in reality, it'd be a lot of work to stop buying Lego from being 'uncool' for your average teen. Likewise, little kids would just see sets in shops/catalogues and then want to have them and play/watch the content material. Parents might not know enough about it (let's face it, probably not the case with Assassins' Creed. The clue to the kid friendliness is in the name), and let their kids play a game rated 18+ for good reasons.
And then on the other side of the fence are the parents who won't let their kids play any video games because as we all know, ALL video games turn Little Timmy into a high-school shooter.
Basically it's an attitude/education thing. Which is derailing the thread a bit. Suffice to say, if Assassins' Creed is made into a PG-13/12 rated movie, there's a chance of Lego sets (like PoP). Otherwise, I think no. You can always MOC, though. :)
The only ones I found was this PoP Polybag. Well maybe also the Quest of Time, though this set reminds more of the original 2D Prince of Persia from the nineties.