Town Hall and Grand Emporium Retired!

SuperTramp

Why would the Town Hall get near the CC price when the GG is still barely selling for £600?

I still see that sat for months.

TheLoneTensor

One reason would be that the Town Hall has a (much) higher RRP than GG, or any other modular did/does. Another would be that it spent the last half of its life under the no-discount umbrella. That factor alone is still in a wait and see mode when it comes to aftermarket prices (even though I'm already convinced we'll see significantly higher aftermarket prices simply as a result of that alone). Honestly both of those play together, because there's RRP and there's average-purchase-price. Considering that, I'd guess the TH has a far, far higher APP than any other modular.

My favorite is still the GG, but the Town hall has a lot going for it, it's a central building, it's a good building when it comes to play value and it's huge, giving it a *BAM* factor that most other modulars can't really match.

Farmer_John

What the TH really has going for it was that it was more expensive, so less people probably picked it up. Additionally, TLG did a head-fake and EOL'd it essentially with the GE. So both of those factors will be what drives up the post-EOL value of this set.

While both the CC and GG have high post-EOL prices (and are nice sets in and of themselves), I believe those prices in some measure are due to the fact that the Modular sets just weren't that popular at the time they were offered and those late to the party will sell a kidney to get one now.

Billybrown

I feel that TH caught a lot of people out (including me), more so than GC. I had TH down as retiring in 2016! I certainly see TH overtaking GC from a price point of view at some point.

TheLoneTensor

GC? Green Corner?

Billybrown

TheLoneTensor said:

GC? Green Corner?

I meant GG ;-)

Sethro3

I mentioned a few pages ago about bricklinking a set and the aftermarket prices...I haven't been on to re-comment on that.

My totals that I found are double the MSRP and that is WITHOUT box/instructions. So if you can find a Modular for less than double, you'd be wise to pick it up unless you want to spend double on bricklinking it. Now that is starting from scratch.

Pet Shop was >$300 plus shipping from multiple vendors for all of the listed
Fire Brigade was >$300
Town Hall was >$400
Palace Cinema was >$300...

I see a trend here. Basically double the MSRP, but that is currently. If any pieces become really sought after, that could change things like the early Modulars.

CCC

What is your analysis based on? Average prices sold / current for sale?

Sethro3

Current for sale on bricklink in USD. I parted out each one based on last 6 months sales average for my store. Then went through the edit to the last page before adding it to my inventory to see the final valuation of all of the pieces combined, without shipping.

binaryeye

The totals shown in the price guide are higher (for sale average, parts only):
PS: $390
FB: $370
TH: $514
PC: $350

Basta

One of our large department stores (Myer) seems to have been a little late to the party with these. Just yesterday they added both TH and GE to their web site.

https://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/15224255343/

Apparently they will be appearing in store over the next few days. Currently there is a B1G1 50% off sale in store until Sunday, good time to buy if they turn up instore on time.

We seem to often get a last shipment when most other markets have sold out. Happened with Winter Bakery & Cotage as well as Diagon Alley (as I previously mentioned.)

madforLEGO

I think prices are growing on cost of parts, from both LEGO and as a result BL.
But then again when I brick linked the Market Street it cost me about 200 USD to do it. (back before they started rising in price) That is small potatoes now though for that set (considering how many pieces are not currently in production for that set).
I would say Blinking a set at about double the cost of RRP is about right, but again when it is gone for enough time you are likely to see those prices or higher.

thedingman5

Just got a GE from toysrus on the website. $149.99 plus free shipping. No idea how many are left, but super stoked to get one! Good luck!

Aanchir

Farmer_John said:

While both the CC and GG have high post-EOL prices (and are nice sets in and of themselves), I believe those prices in some measure are due to the fact that the Modular sets just weren't that popular at the time they were offered and those late to the party will sell a kidney to get one now.

That's always a good thing to keep in mind. The more copies of a set were sold in the first place, the more will often be available in the aftermarket, and the fewer people will want them (because the people who value them most often already have them).

Of course, this is especially true of more kid-oriented sets, because even kids who bought a set and loved it might still enter a "dark age" as they get older and decide to part with their LEGO. Whereas if an older adult buys a set, they're probably LEGO fans for the long haul and won't necessarily be going through big life changes like going to college that might make them want to part with it.

madforLEGO

thedingman5 said:

Just got a GE from toysrus on the website. $149.99 plus free shipping. No idea how many are left, but super stoked to get one! Good luck!

What country? Because they are not appearing on the US site at all.

monkeyhanger

thedingman5 said:

Just got a GE from toysrus on the website. $149.99 plus free shipping. No idea how many are left, but super stoked to get one! Good luck!

I'd pop the seals on that to check contents - might be a customer return filled with all kinds of crap.

zipsforbananas

monkeyhanger said:

I'd pop the seals on that to check contents - might be a customer return filled with all kinds of crap.

I'm sure I've seen this jaded outlook before somewhere....

madforLEGO said:

I would almost guarantee that is a set that has been pilfered of its original contents and replaced with whatever then returned.

Threads this long do start to repeat themselves don't they!

thedingman5

monkeyhanger said:

thedingman5 said:

Just got a GE from toysrus on the website. $149.99 plus free shipping. No idea how many are left, but super stoked to get one! Good luck!

I'd pop the seals on that to check contents - might be a customer return filled with all kinds of crap.

Ok thanks. Fingers crossed.

thedingman5

madforLEGO said:

thedingman5 said:

Just got a GE from toysrus on the website. $149.99 plus free shipping. No idea how many are left, but super stoked to get one! Good luck!

What country? Because they are not appearing on the US site at all.

U.S. site. Showed up in "Items that may interest you." Haven't seen it since. Depending on contents I'm either lucky or screwed!

dragon114

hoping i can get the ge for Christmas before it goes by by

romanstar

Agree natro.All these acronyms are really confusing to me.

zipsforbananas

^I think a rule about using acronyms should be added to general Lego forum etiquette - Acronyms are fine when the context makes them obvious, so here in a discussion about modulars abbreviating any modular is fine.
- Otherwise you should use them sparingly, within a post after you've used the full title, or a few posts after it was last mentioned; or if it's clearly a widely used acronym of a well known set.

I guess that's being a bit too rigid, but at very least we should all be careful to think whether our acronyms will be easily understood, and those are good factors to consider.

Pitfall69

Random acronyms within the forum are just as bad as random Lego set numbers without the # in front of the set number.

superstarbeejay

Pitfall69 said:

Random acronyms within the forum are just as bad as random Lego set numbers without the # in front of the set number.

I must admit that I don't understand how the # helps. What am I doing wrong? All that happens when I click on one is that it searches the forum for that set number.

SuperTramp

^Its does that for me when i use a ipad or iphone, its fine when im on the PC.

rocao

^ Right, the redirection is not available on the mobile version. For the desktop version, it will covert it to links to the Brickset set listing

canon03

I always wondered why hash tags never linked to sets from my posts. Now I know.

mountebank

The thing I miss is webpages in Bricksetforum having an additional search box which takes a set number search result directly to the Brickset page instead of the only search option being to search the forum.

LostInTranslation

We do have lists of common acronyms, if people care to look for them. Obviously they need to be kept updated with new abbreviations, such as DO for Detective's Office.

http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/2799/abbreviation-acronym-list-builders-edition

http://www.bricksetforum.com/discussion/2798/abbreviation-acronym-list-collectors-edition

I would say most of the acronyms there are fairly commonly used here and obvious from the context and as such shouldn't need explaining. Unless of course someone does something silly and puts GC when they actually mean GG ;-)

@rocao - maybe those two threads should be included in the Dictionary of Useful Forum Threads thread?

StuBoy

superstarbeejay said:

I must admit that I don't understand how the # helps. What am I doing wrong? All that happens when I click on one is that it searches the forum for that set number.

Same for me on my Mac. I can never seem to get a link working in any posts I do.

msanders

StuBoy said:

superstarbeejay said:

I must admit that I don't understand how the # helps. What am I doing wrong? All that happens when I click on one is that it searches the forum for that set number.

Same for me on my Mac. I can never seem to get a link working in any posts I do.

This only happens to me when I'm using my mobile phone. If I use my laptop or iPad then it links to the main Brickset website with the Lego Set that matches the number

Bluefairy_56

^ I'm the same.

ricecake

It doesn't work on mobile as stated before, but even on my PC, I have to actually refresh the page after posting for it to show up for me.

oldtodd33

^ I think everyone else does too. I know I do.

thedingman5

thedingman5 said:

madforLEGO said:

thedingman5 said:

Just got a GE from toysrus on the website. $149.99 plus free shipping. No idea how many are left, but super stoked to get one! Good luck!

What country? Because they are not appearing on the US site at all.

U.S. site. Showed up in "Items that may interest you." Haven't seen it since. Depending on contents I'm either lucky or screwed!

...and, to no one's surprise, TRU cancelled the order due to a lack of inventory... Oh well. It was worth a shot!

zipsforbananas

^Unlucky! You're right though, definitely worth a shot. I just hope you've not missed out on an eBay auction or anything like that while you've been waiting.

dragon114

seem like amazon keep getting in stock that goes prety fast,

Eric

Picked up this this morning from Myer. Only 1 left! AUD$219 is about right for the modulars these days. I'm pretty happy.

pcirone

I like the 8070 better :)

LegobrandonCP

I guess it never really occurred to me that I won't have a complete set of modulars (with the exception of CC, GG and MS). So I'm pretty sad now that I have some Christmas money and won't be able to get the TH to complete my street. So far I only have the FB, GE and PS.

Any chance we will see a price drop after the holidays? I don't think anyone stockpiled on this set.

Pitfall69

Price drop on the TH? I wouldn't expect that. The holidays sets the bar on these sets and then it keeps rising slowly until the next holiday season and then there is an even bigger spike. If you open and build the sets, I would source a used one if you can.

dragon114

Is a GE worth $250. Thinking of getting one after the holidays

LegobrandonCP

Pitfall69 said:

Price drop on the TH? I wouldn't expect that. The holidays sets the bar on these sets and then it keeps rising slowly until the next holiday season and then there is an even bigger spike. If you open and build the sets, I would source a used one if you can.

I certainly wouldn't mind a used one, as long as the price isn't too insane. I am not willing to pay anything over $300. I looked on CL, and did find a use selling a sealed TH for $250!! But I was a bit too late on that one haha

:-( I guess my next set will have to be the Cinema.

zipsforbananas

^Absolutely, set a price limit you don't want to go above, try and bag the retired sets now and quickly, and if you can't get them move on. Good luck! :)

nkx1

LegobrandonCP said:

I guess it never really occurred to me that I won't have a complete set of modulars (with the exception of CC, GG and MS). So I'm pretty sad now that I have some Christmas money and won't be able to get the TH to complete my street. So far I only have the FB, GE and PS.

Just my opinion, obviously, but I wouldn't bother collecting the complete set. For the price of one TH (about $300), you can purchase almost two of the current modulars. Additionally, you mention "now that I have some Christmas money...", implying that you don't have unlimited funds to spend on Lego (like many people). Therefore, in order to make the limited money you have stretch further and yield more enjoyment (more sets = more enjoyment, arguably), my vote would be to forgo the TH. I would actually look at it as a positive- now you don't have to burn money on this set (which wasn't exactly the shining star of the modular series anyway)!

LegobrandonCP

Thanks @nkx1‌. I am obviously not going to let one missing modular ruin my day, but the truth is, it just makes me feel warmer on the inside having a "complete" lineup, I'm sure most people understand that.

Looking forward to picking up a Cinema and Idea Birds set in the near future!

madforLEGO

There is a lesson to be learned here.
Regardless of how you feel about the latest set, buy one. At least one.
That way if you do not like it, wait for it to go EOL and sell it, and likely for a profit of some kind. However, if you have second thoughts and turns out that you wanted one after all, you then already have one and do not have to lament about missing it later.

IMO Easier to buy now, than pay dearly later.

exciter1

LegobrandonCP said:

Thanks @nkx1‌. I am obviously not going to let one missing modular ruin my day, but the truth is, it just makes me feel warmer on the inside having a "complete" lineup, I'm sure most people understand that.

Looking forward to picking up a Cinema and Idea Birds set in the near future!

I think if you offer someone cash for a used/open Town Hall, $250 isn't out of the question. You better hurry!

Basta

LegobrandonCP said:

Pitfall69 said:

Price drop on the TH? I wouldn't expect that. The holidays sets the bar on these sets and then it keeps rising slowly until the next holiday season and then there is an even bigger spike. If you open and build the sets, I would source a used one if you can.

I certainly wouldn't mind a used one, as long as the price isn't too insane. I am not willing to pay anything over $300. I looked on CL, and did find a use selling a sealed TH for $250!! But I was a bit too late on that one haha

:-( I guess my next set will have to be the Cinema.

Too bad your not in Australian as I have seen a few of these around in the last week or two, but they are at smaller stores that never have sale's and so are the full RRP of $300AUD ($283CAD/$243USD) postage is the killer as it would add another $95AUD to the price.

Jern92

I've seen plenty of Town Halls lying around here in NZ too, but they're sold at the RRP of NZD360 (USD277) so it's a pretty steep price to pay. Modulars here are priced absolutely ridiculously.