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But surprisingly, I'm not too disappointed for missing that one. I guess I just saved myself $250.
My modular line would look a lot better with the full collection, but I already don't have the CC, GG and MS.
I confirmed it on here and thankfully got a GE on eBay hours later for only £95 buy-it-now without the box. Still hoping I can get a TH before the retired set effect sets in for good! I'm not expecting much though.
@gmonkey76 - It is a big surprise that a set from 2012 is being retired in this line where GE lasted 4 years, I think FB was similar and PS will now go for at least that long. It's quite a surprise that TLG would retire two modular sets at the same time, and it's an even bigger surprise that TH would be retired before PS which came out a year before it!
PS was my first modular and I had half an eye on GE knowing it would be the next to retire. But TH is a complete shock! I thought with having bought PS first once I got GE I could relax for a while before getting TH.
Call me crazy but I assumed they'd retire in the same order they came out! And with sets this expensive that came out one per year I think TLG will find a lot of people scratching their heads having planned to buy TH later on, now mystified that it's gone.
Maybe I missed it, but I remember seeing a report of sets due for retirement when FB went. Was there one with these two on? If it's that I didn't see it because of my newsfeed preferences I'm going to be gutted!
I kinda surprised about the retirement of the TH but Lego are a business and they will have the sales figures for this set. If it wasn't selling then I can understand why they want to retire the set and make room for something else. Also, if Lego read some of the thoughts and reviews about the TH on forums like this then they probably got the impression that it was one of, if not, the worst Modular (although I don't agree!).
Most likely the TH sold fine, but not enough to justify another production run. PS also has been out of stock (last I checked), but will probably have a planned production run to give it another push. I doubt it will last 4 years like GE/FB, but they might last longer than expected. I always assume all Exclusives will last 2 years. If it sells so well to run out before then, it will probably get another production run.
I try to buy the oldest sets first, just to be safe. But TH clearly isn't a favorite amongst fans. It looks too much like FB overall (symmetrical, central column like appearance, tower on top). I happen to like both, but I can understand why people would wait on it, cost aside. But you need to weigh price vs want on items like this. I haven't picked up a lot of the UCS SW sets yet, but I doubt I will end up getting any of them with all of these other great exclusives coming out.
Between sets like
Pet Shop and Town Hall, which are older kids going to gravitate to?
Town Hall definitely does not have the kid appeal that Pet Shop would have, and it is more expensive. For the price, I think most older kids would gravitate to any other modular (or other set) first.
Then when you add the AFOL factor in where I have seen countless times people point others to any modular besides Town Hall because they feel the others are better.....
It just does not seem like a likely seller with any buying group.
I do have one, though, from the year of the crazy Modular Sales. My son will actually like it someday, because of the elevator feature.
That's also the reason made me hold off from buying it. I prefer detail over size. But my girl friend is the opposite of me. She cares size most, so we got the Tower Bridge during the double points, and yesterday we finally got a Town Hall from ebay.
No TH, just GE. It was available online for a while last Thursday morning.
As for @Dad, that happened to me too! I ordered the 10221 SSD during the May 4th Sale and got the 10188 Death Star instead.
With my true cost at around $160 w/tax the pot odds are just too good.
The current BP value of GG is $869 or 5.79x RRP. TH at $500 would only be 2.5x RRP. Given the COMPLETELY unexpected retirement of TH and the PROVEN track record of modulars in general I don't see how it could possibly be under $500 by 12/31/15.
The last 3 sales on eBay were all over $300 and it's only been retired for a few days.. or is it even retired..
Now the paradox is that many of those same people later on will be willing to shell out 300-400 for the set.
People say 'Yeah, but the FB would be more worth it, or this or that mod'. Well, there are completion-ists out there that will want it (same reason why Cafe Corner still is climbing, as well as Market Street-even those MS is not a 'mod' to most). That, combined with likely low reseller numbers, will make it still go up even though there are less people interested. Same reason why FB, despite being made for 5 years and TONS of people stacking them, went up as fast as it did, more popular as it is a fire station.
As for the 'rare' colors for the set... Considering you can find these brick at BL for less than LEGO is charging for them I'm not sweating. At least I'm buying what I may use later now as they are cheaper than retail (what LEGO is charging for them)
But even if the TH is gone, and stock of those parts dry up, you are also assuming they will never be made for another design ever. I doubt that seriously especially with the number of sets coming out (heck the new DA may be using the orange brick used in TH) It is only brick, it is not like rare parts in the set, though I'm guessing those shields will start to rise in price as I doubt they will use those again, maybe those arches, but again the assumption would have to be you will never see these again in another set anytime soon.
I would say sand green has less of a chance coming back than this orange color from TH. And Sand Green still has returned again in the past (first GG then recently the HH), and will likely be used in another set in the future.
1 x 8 sand green would have been cheap just after GG retired but it was "retired" itself shortly after - whilst sand green is perhaps as common as it's ever been at present still no new 1x8 bricks. I could see that they keep a lot of dark orange in production, but the 1 x 8 could disappear. The arches could go the same way as the dark blue ones from MS. Just look at the price of the tan windows from EN for those who want to make extra carriages!
Is the new one a re release?
That was a set that was not retired, but was sold out, so more were made and became available later on. In fact, saying it like that it's pretty blindingly obvious, that's how selling products works!
There is a difference between a set getting sold out and so not being available because they've run out, and not being available because it's been retired and is no longer being made.
It's obvious on the database here. TH no longer has the Lego option under the buy-it links, and availability has an end date. Whereas current sets, even if sold out, have the link to [email protected] and availability listed up to "now."
I want to know if there has ever been a set that has actually been retired that has then been re-released.
It seems pretty black and white to me that these sets have been retired, and so there is absolutely no hope of Lego selling them ever again - that's what retirement means! I can't quite understand why anyone's even suggesting it could happen, unless of course it has happened before, which is what I'm asking!