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  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation UKMember Posts: 5,520
    ^ Reminds me of the episode of Outnumbered where Pete gets into an argument with a fellow parent whilst watching Karen at a swim meet. I seem to recall it ended with Pete declaring that although he wasn't a paedophile he *was* a gay gypsy asylum seeker?!
  • monkeymonkey Member Posts: 234
    edited December 2014
    I don't have kids, and had no idea thing were so mental in that department! Parents can't take pictures of their kids playing

    It all boils down to consent I guess, just had a look at Oxfam website and under heading "The impact of our work" they have videos of kids, let alone pictures:

    I wonder if they sought consent from the parents of those kids? I think if they did it would probably never have occurred to the parents to refuse..

  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    I would never have an issue but do know why some of the mentleness occurs. Things like Facebook have made a real difference. In our local school there are at least three families (5 kids) who can't have their photos posted on Facebook etc. The exact reasons vary but basically they can't be found and through Facebook that could inadvertantly happen. As such we can take photos but have to agree not to publish them first.

    However that's only school events, in public spaces like ice rinks its fair game although I can understand swimming pools and things being different. Its also easier to have a flat ban rather than singleing out the man in a mac.
  • NorlegoNorlego ScotlandMember Posts: 444
    ^ You had to sign a paper??? The idea they even have papers ready for people to sign shows the madness we all live in. I tried to take photos of my 2 girls in parks and been stopped. Other parents have come over to me to ask for permisson to take photos of their own children... Just out of fear my girls would accidently run into the frame in the background. (I am glad I did not grow up in Britain.)
  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,936
    I've never heard of most of this, and I live in Britain. I'd guess a lot of it is backlash because of the recent news coverage of high-profile people being paedophiles and darkweb child porn sites. It's an understandable fear for parents even if they seem to be taking it a little far...
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    edited January 2015
    ^^ No I didn't have to sign anything, nothing 'legal' just an understanding. To be honest growing up here you would have been fine, its only a very recent thing related to facebook and the desire of some parents to catalogue their entire lives and those of their children for all to see.

    For 95% of children it doesn't matter if their photos end up on facebook - personally I would have no issue, but there are a not insignificant number of children who would be described as at risk. Perhaps their mother has had to leave a partner due to domestic violence, perhaps they've been adopted or fostered because their parents were abusive towards them and disclosure of their new family could lead to inappropriate or unregulated contact between the child and their birth family. To me these are perfectly good reasons and if it means we can't publish photos on facebook so that these children aren't put at risk so be it - its a price I'm more than happy to pay. Of course in our situation we are still allowed to take photos and trusted not to upload them - sometimes they have been and parents have suggested they be taken down, because the alternative is we aren't allowed to take photos. I guess some schools may not have that level of trust with parents so just ban photos, which is a massive shame.

    Unfortunately many associate such restrictions with a general over-concern about what are very small risks to all our children rather that what are very real and quite sizeable risks to a small number of our children which plays to the Daily Mail brigade and concerns about health and safety, over protective parents and unnecessary regulation.

    And it is a very real risk, the head of Adoption UK has confirmed that children have been found by their birth families via Facebook or other social networking sites. It can happen, it does happen and there are very real reasons for not wanting it to happen.

    As for the park, its a public space and you're allowed to take photos of your own children. Another parent asking if you mind is just polite.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,824
    I've never had a problem taking photos in a park either.

    For school, we sign a yearly declaration per child saying that we do / do not consent to photographs of our child being taken by the school and/or professional photographers acting on their behalf and published online or in the local press or other public form.

    I don't think the school has any at risk kids that cannot be photographed, as we are free to photograph and video school plays, etc. and nothing is ever said about uploading them to the internet. Unless there is some procedure to remove those kids from school plays where parents are present, although that would seem rather harsh on the kid.
  • snowhitiesnowhitie BelgiumMember Posts: 2,859
    edited January 2015
    It is harsh. In my sons class 2 children are not allowed to be on photographs (5 year olds), can't join in the dance/play at the school fete because they don't want other people to look at their kid. I went one day to help out at the class for a party and we were taking a group photo, one of the kids was really crying because he was not allowed to be in it. Guess if it is for a good reason like mentioned above it's fine, but at least one of them is just because the mom is a bit paranoid and its a shame that the kids miss out on things.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    edited February 2015
    pah, 12 grand and its not even a full set - no lego movie.
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