10246 Detective Agency

binaryeye

Adzbadboy said:

I would like it to have a 6 stud wide alleyway (most likely on the right hand side) it would defiantly be a cool new layout, maybe it could have some type of graffiti on the walls.

If it's "split in two with an alleyway in between" then the alley can't be on one side or the other.

The more I think about it, the more I'm interested in seeing how the alley has been implemented. If each building were on a 16x32 baseplate, with the alley on the side of one, there would be no connection points on the alley side. This suggests two buildings, separated by the alley, on one 32x32 baseplate.

AdeelZubair

binaryeye said:

Adzbadboy said:

I would like it to have a 6 stud wide alleyway (most likely on the right hand side) it would defiantly be a cool new layout, maybe it could have some type of graffiti on the walls.

If it's "split in two with an alleyway in between" then the alley can't be on one side or the other.

The more I think about it, the more I'm interested in seeing how the alley has been implemented. If each building were on a 16x32 baseplate, with the alley on the side of one, there would be no connection points on the alley side. This suggests two buildings, separated by the alley, on one 32x32 baseplate.

If you look at the left side of the Green Grocer and Parisian Restaurant they have small extended walls for the Technic pins, so they would do the same where they could do small builds where the connection points would be; however then there would be a stability issue and I'm sure LEGO is capable of such situation.

Paperballpark

Why not just have the alleyway on one of two 16x32 plates? After all, it only needs to be about 3 or 4 studs wide.

Bumblepants

Perhaps it is a dead-end alleyway with a brick wall or fence at the end with boxes and crates and dumpsters crammed in like a typical tv crime scene area.

binaryeye

Adzbadboy said:

If you look at the left side of the Green Grocer and Parisian Restaurant they have small extended walls for the Technic pins, so they would do the same where they could do small builds where the connection points would be; however then there would be a stability issue and I'm sure LEGO is capable of such situation.

Yeah, I was thinking they could use a dumpster or pile of boxes for the connection points. But the GG and PR each have only one "weak" point whereas an alley would need two. I suppose the back of the alley could be walled in and have more structural integrity.

Paperballpark said:

Why not just have the alleyway on one of two 16x32 plates? After all, it only needs to be about 3 or 4 studs wide.

As above, it doesn't seem like the connection points would work. Unless you're referring to an alley in the middle of a 16x32 plate, in which case I don't see the need for separate plates.

AdeelZubair

Bumblepants said:

Perhaps it is a dead-end alleyway with a brick wall or fence at the end with boxes and crates and dumpsters crammed in like a typical tv crime scene area.

Yep, I missed that detail, an alleyway on the side could defiantly work if I you have a dead end. This all sounds so awesome I really could see this being so cool It's sounds like it could be my next modular as I only have the Pet Shop #10218. I don't want to change the subject but this makes me really want to watch Gotham right now (UK: 9pm, Monday 13th October, Channel 5)

I need pictures...NOW!

Gooker1

CCC said:

I'm hoping for a body-outline sticker.

If we could only be so lucky.

Coyotelily

@ccc me too that was the first thing we thought of!

BrickDancer

^^First episode of Gotham was quite good, surprisingly even with real good acting performances by everyone (except Bruce). It posed a question I never even thought of before, was Thomas Wayne's mugging a random encounter or was it orchestrated?

CCC

Gooker1 said:

CCC said:

I'm hoping for a body-outline sticker.

If we could only be so lucky.

I'd prefer a printed tile of course, but that would be expecting too much.

Paperballpark

binaryeye said:

As above, it doesn't seem like the connection points would work. Unless you're referring to an alley in the middle of a 16x32 plate, in which case I don't see the need for separate plates.

I meant, for example, one stud for a wall (at the edge of the baseplate), then 4 studs for the alleyway, then one stud for the wall that also forms the internal wall.

CapnRex101

@BrickDancer - It varies from one source to another. In some it is just a mugging, in others it is made to look like a mugging but is actually organised by various crime families. I am pleased to hear that I was not the only person on Brickset who enjoyed Gotham, apart from the shooting itself which I think should be much faster and contain less talking personally. Bruce's scream was cringeworthy.

Anyway, back on topic: I am growing to like this idea more and more as it initially seemed like something which would be unable to live up to expectations due to limitations around bars and the like. The alleyway sounds like an interesting addition, although I am not convinced that a dank alley would be found just down the road from a rather swanky restaurant, department store and cinema.

AdeelZubair

CCC said:

Gooker1 said:

CCC said:

I'm hoping for a body-outline sticker.

If we could only be so lucky.

I'd prefer a printed tile of course, but that would be expecting too much.

I believe that we have got stickers with only one Modular Building, that being the Palace Cinema. If it is a graphic on a large area then expect a sticker otherwise LEGO Creator sets don't have stickers often.

bluedragon

CapnRex101 said:

... The alleyway sounds like an interesting addition, although I am not convinced that a dank alley would be found just down the road from a rather swanky restaurant, department store and cinema.

The alleyway addition might translate into a brick subtraction.

AdeelZubair

bluedragon said:

CapnRex101 said:

... The alleyway sounds like an interesting addition, although I am not convinced that a dank alley would be found just down the road from a rather swanky restaurant, department store and cinema.

The alleyway addition might translate into a brick subtraction.

Like Jaime Berard said in the Parisian Restaurant #10243 designer video: in the restaurant they put the bricks inside the building to add a fully furnished interior. So in this case they would figure out some other place to use those bricks, again best to use it to furnish the interior levels which were one of the best highlights of the restaurant and I'm pretty sure they want to stay at that level or to even go beyond the details of the previous modular building.

middleton83

If you look behind all of the modular buildings, there is some sort of alleyway behind the buildings, could it relate to this. Typical as well that I build an alleyway for my Modulars and they go and create one.

mathew

I would expect something that will closely match the Parisian Restaurant in design and styling. Should be good.

emilewski

When can we expect to see pictures? The suspense is killing me.

matticus_bricks

Here's my thoughts on this alley business. Perhaps it will be a 4-stud wide alley down the middle of the 32x32 plate with 1x6 arches over it, connecting the two separated buildings. Then the buildings sort of become one building on the second floor. Just a thought.

andyscouse

Sounds like it'll be a great new modular!

T_Lars

My guess: Both a 10 or 12 wide alleyway and one of the buildings on a 32x32 base plate which somehow connects to the other building which is on a 16x32. I'm thinking the connection points in the alleyway would be hidden in a dumpster or some other random junk.

iso3200

matticus_bricks said:

Here's my thoughts on this alley business. Perhaps it will be a 4-stud wide alley down the middle of the 32x32 plate with 1x6 arches over it, connecting the two separated buildings. Then the buildings sort of become one building on the second floor. Just a thought.

This is how I imagine it to be.

CapnRex101

^ I think the same, although perhaps with a slightly wider alleyway of six or eight studs.

AdeelZubair

^I think between 6 and 8 studs is the best option, as having a wider alleyway will allow for more details to be added like creates, boxes and dumpsters.

bluedragon

And perhaps a side fire exit from the bar??

CCC

matticus_bricks said:

Here's my thoughts on this alley business. Perhaps it will be a 4-stud wide alley down the middle of the 32x32 plate with 1x6 arches over it, connecting the two separated buildings. Then the buildings sort of become one building on the second floor. Just a thought.

Or just two separate buildings with no connection. Although that will up the brick count. I doubt the overall footprint will vary from 32x32.

iBart

emilewski said:

The suspense is killing me.

That's what Hitchcock want you to feel! :D

GreenArrow57

Adzbadboy said:

^I think between 6 and 8 studs is the best option, as having a wider alleyway will allow for more details to be added like creates, boxes and dumpsters.

...and a body....

AdeelZubair

bluedragon said:

And perhaps a side fire exit from the bar??

Yes a fire exit of the side would be really cool and another reason to re-enact the Wayne deaths :)

GreenArrow57 said:

Adzbadboy said:

^I think between 6 and 8 studs is the best option, as having a wider alleyway will allow for more details to be added like creates, boxes and dumpsters.

...and a body....

Perhaps but it doesn't match the terms and conditions on LEGO Ideas, which gives you an idea on what types of stuff LEGO doesn't like in their models.


Projects related to the topics below do not fit our brand values and will not be approved for publication on LEGO Ideas. We will decide how a project fits these standards.

a. Politics and political symbols

b. Religious references including symbols, buildings, or people

c. Sex, drugs, or smoking

d. Alcohol in any present day situation

e. Swearing

f. Death, killing, blood, terrorism, or torture

g. First-person shooter video games

h. Warfare or war vehicles in any modern or present-day situation

i. Racism, bullying, or cruelty to real life animals


If you look a some of LEGO's products it's possible to change these guidelines such as the Parisian Restaurant #10243 with wine bottles, Christmas/seasonal sets, some sets have skeletons reference to death, Star Wars blasters are acceptable because they are laser guns and finally the Superman: Battle of Smallville #76003 set has "offroader" which is meant to be a military vehicle.

So it is possible if done in a suitable way.

BazookaJoeX9

So did this ever get announced today? According to the Oct. Calendar it should have been.

Briking

@BazookaJoeX9 so pleased you asked that question. I've been looking for it with no luck and came to the conclusion I must have been dreaming it was supposed to be revealed today.

GallardoLU

todays reveal ended up being Slave I, which was actually announced a couple days ago too.

piratemania7

GallardoLU said:

todays reveal ended up being Slave I, which was actually announced a couple days ago too.

Thats the same deduction I came to as well. That's sad because I was really looking forward to the next modular release!

On another note, poor showing by TLG if they printed in their monthly calendar that today would be the next exclusive release on social media and then it ends up being a couple days before anyways. Maybe today was the "official" release with photos, etc? I don't know really but still disappointed.

Paperballpark

Seems to me a bit like the arse doesn't know what the elbow is doing...

CurvedRoadPlate

I'm guessing the next modular will not be available until next year. Looking at the listings we get one per year, the Parisian Restaurant was 2014. The Detective Agency will be a 2015 set

Paperballpark

I had a dream last night that the new Detective Agency was built in a horrible 'brutalist' style, had massive 'one use' pieces, and that it was scaled to fit with Friends...

theLEGOman

The Detective Agency is a new Junior Modular line :o.

Clumsybumsy

That Alleyway is a nice speculation but i doubt it will happen. the Parisian restaurant already had an indent.

Bumblepants

Paperballpark said:

I had a dream last night that the new Detective Agency was built in a horrible 'brutalist' style, had massive 'one use' pieces, and that it was scaled to fit with Friends...

I am glad I am not the only one who has weird Lego dreams.

LegobrandonCP

Bumblepants said:

Paperballpark said:

I had a dream last night that the new Detective Agency was built in a horrible 'brutalist' style, had massive 'one use' pieces, and that it was scaled to fit with Friends...

I am glad I am not the only one who has weird Lego dreams.

I have ones where I am actually running around in LEGO built streets.

iso3200

Just reading over at Eurobricks, and it looks like user Nesquik has seen and can confirm that this set has an alleyway down the middle and a bar.

I'm pretty glad about that as I was all setup and prepared to look like a total nob noob if I'd been wrong with this info. I'll be even happier when someone else can confirm the pool table.

piratemania7

It's like a perpetual guessing game with this; I'd like some concrete detailed information before I start believing any of this hype.

dannyrww

a Bar? Well I suppose it is for adult collectors and there have been plenty of sets with wine glasses and bottles. There is also a drunk elf in one of the Hobbit sets (though not labeled as such).

iso3200

I've been very reliably informed that the DeA reveal will be during November at VIP events in certain stores, so I guess we can expect the set images to surface around then.

madforLEGO

dougts said:

Wow. You two are dreaming. Of course it's going to be smaller not bigger than previous modulars. Look what they did with the cinema and the restaurant. The trend is clear

Do not worry though, I'm sure they will still charge the 159.99 USD.
Now if it happens to be 149.99 USD again, OK (though I seriously doubt LEGO is going to downsize the price) but in any case, like a moth to a flame Ill be drawn to it.

piratemania7

I'm surprised that we are still talking about this and paying attention. Has any reliable source verified we will see something later this year let alone a Detective Agency? I was CONVINCED it was going to be revealed in early october and like many others I am sure was thoroughly disappointed. Regardless until I see it this time around I wont believe it.

Legoboy

^ Consider it confirmed. :o)

There's a few names on here in the know. Planned launch of January 1st with a rumoured (although unlikely) early VIP release.

iso3200

^Sorry I should have been more specific. The VIP events in November will be for the set preview, (along with the Slave), but it can't be purchased until January.

Legoboy

^ I wasn't quoting you. :o) A couple of sources have suggested an early release although I'm not sure. I can't see it.

david325

Launch of January 1st? Another great marketing tactic, completely miss the Christmas shopping season, wait until everyone has no money and boom, launch!