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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    Wange and Decool already do V-22 models. Somewhat smaller than Lego's version though.
  • im2cre8ivim2cre8iv Utah, USAMember Posts: 134
    Does LEGO provide a mechanism to report counterfeit LEGO websites?
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    No. You can email customer services btu that is about it.
    im2cre8iv
  • RogerKirkRogerKirk BrightonMember Posts: 364
    The sets on Etsy were still there yesterday when I looked. I've not heard anything back from them - do they normally respond to reports? Has anyone else tried reporting them?

    Also just back from a holiday and sadden to see at two different tourist sites the gift shops selling counterfeit Lego. OK, they weren't current sets, but were pirate and city themed sets with a fake red logo in Lego's style and similar box art to what what Lego uses. Clearly trying to make it look like real Lego.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    Yeah, those fake sets are common in the Far East but also in touristy type destinations in Greece and Cyprus and probably all over Europe if you look for them.
  • RogerKirkRogerKirk BrightonMember Posts: 364
    CCC said:
    Yeah, those fake sets are common in the Far East but also in touristy type destinations in Greece and Cyprus and probably all over Europe if you look for them.
    Sadly, the sets I saw were in the UK.
    andhe
  • Mr_CrossMr_Cross East Anglia (UK)Member Posts: 1,427
    I don't know how new this is, but this is pretty new to me.
    Fake bricks with LEGO logos are out there.
    http://www.brickfinder.net/2020/08/30/fake-lego-imprinted-bricks-found-china/?fbclid=IwAR1fxAve5hsTDO9N_xhmUwC6m0F6QKWCPmny-5uaCvw8667plMDnIaaw1XM
    This is very worrying.
    I think that just about ends my secondhand buying habits from ebay, facebook and amazon marketplace. I'll be very cautious about any source that isn't directly traceable to LEGO.
    I shall be saving receipts as provenence for my purchases in case the need to sell something arises.
    Actually, it's not worrying is it? No, it's just really, really bloody annoying.
  • CharmiefcbCharmiefcb SydneyMember Posts: 379
    This could cause problems on Bricklink soon enough.
    Mr_Cross
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,384
    Mr_Cross said:
    I don't know how new this is, but this is pretty new to me.
    Fake bricks with LEGO logos are out there.
    http://www.brickfinder.net/2020/08/30/fake-lego-imprinted-bricks-found-china/?fbclid=IwAR1fxAve5hsTDO9N_xhmUwC6m0F6QKWCPmny-5uaCvw8667plMDnIaaw1XM
    This is very worrying.
    I think that just about ends my secondhand buying habits from ebay, facebook and amazon marketplace. I'll be very cautious about any source that isn't directly traceable to LEGO.
    I shall be saving receipts as provenence for my purchases in case the need to sell something arises.
    Actually, it's not worrying is it? No, it's just really, really bloody annoying.
    The "yellow" brick in that article looks like Brick Yellow ("tan") to me.
    andheMr_Crossgmonkey76
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho PortugalMember Posts: 634
    One could even argue that LEGO benefits from this. If people do become cautious and stop buying unless from LEGO itself, it's a win for them.
    andheCharmiefcb
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,392
    Ooh I can see a "LEGO creates own clone bricks" conspiracy brewing. 
    jnscoelho560Heliport
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho PortugalMember Posts: 634
    Lepin is in fact LEGO! That's the final Hidden Side reveal.
    Charmiefcb560HeliportLordmoral
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    jnscoelho said:
    One could even argue that LEGO benefits from this. If people do become cautious and stop buying unless from LEGO itself, it's a win for them.
    Or people realise the quality of clone bricks is pretty good and no need to buy the genuine thing any more.

    560Heliport said:
    Mr_Cross said:
    I don't know how new this is, but this is pretty new to me.
    Fake bricks with LEGO logos are out there.
    http://www.brickfinder.net/2020/08/30/fake-lego-imprinted-bricks-found-china/?fbclid=IwAR1fxAve5hsTDO9N_xhmUwC6m0F6QKWCPmny-5uaCvw8667plMDnIaaw1XM
    This is very worrying.
    I think that just about ends my secondhand buying habits from ebay, facebook and amazon marketplace. I'll be very cautious about any source that isn't directly traceable to LEGO.
    I shall be saving receipts as provenence for my purchases in case the need to sell something arises.
    Actually, it's not worrying is it? No, it's just really, really bloody annoying.
    The "yellow" brick in that article looks like Brick Yellow ("tan") to me.
    Me too. The person writing the article doesn't seem to know much about LEGO colours. They are clearly comparing it to a yellow one and it is way off.


    Mr_Cross560Heliportgmonkey76
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,384
    edited August 2020
    CCC said:
    jnscoelho said:
    One could even argue that LEGO benefits from this. If people do become cautious and stop buying unless from LEGO itself, it's a win for them.
    Or people realise the quality of clone bricks is pretty good and no need to buy the genuine thing any more.

    560Heliport said:
    Mr_Cross said:
    I don't know how new this is, but this is pretty new to me.
    Fake bricks with LEGO logos are out there.
    http://www.brickfinder.net/2020/08/30/fake-lego-imprinted-bricks-found-china/?fbclid=IwAR1fxAve5hsTDO9N_xhmUwC6m0F6QKWCPmny-5uaCvw8667plMDnIaaw1XM
    This is very worrying.
    I think that just about ends my secondhand buying habits from ebay, facebook and amazon marketplace. I'll be very cautious about any source that isn't directly traceable to LEGO.
    I shall be saving receipts as provenence for my purchases in case the need to sell something arises.
    Actually, it's not worrying is it? No, it's just really, really bloody annoying.
    The "yellow" brick in that article looks like Brick Yellow ("tan") to me.
    Me too. The person writing the article doesn't seem to know much about LEGO colours. They are clearly comparing it to a yellow one and it is way off.


    Glad it's not just my phone- I was beginning to wonder if I was seeing colors wrong! How does Brickfinder not know LEGO colors? Brick yellow/ tan is hardly new.
    gmonkey76
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,945
    jnscoelho said:
    Lepin is in fact LEGO!
    Soylent Green is Peeeeeopole!
    Cymbelineandhegmonkey76VorpalRyuCyberdragon
  • bricktuarybricktuary Krakozhia (temporarily stuck in London)Member Posts: 687
    jnscoelho said:
    Lepin is in fact LEGO! 
    Noooooooooo.No. That's not true! That's impossible!
    560HeliportjnscoelhoFizyxgmonkey76LordmoralSumoLegoCyberdragon
  • jnscoelhojnscoelho PortugalMember Posts: 634
    bricktuary said:
    jnscoelho said:
    Lepin is in fact LEGO! 
    Noooooooooo.No. That's not true! That's impossible!
    Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
    560Heliportpanchox1gmonkey76bricktuaryVorpalRyuLordmoralSumoLegoCyberdragon
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,384
    I'm a little surprised that fakes that say LEGO haven't appeared long before now... except that maybe they have? 
    gmonkey76
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    I'm a little bit surprised that LEGO can tell they are not genuine LEGO. I wonder if I send them two different coloured dark red parts if they can confirm they are both genuine LEGO.
    jnscoelhoFizyxgmonkey76560HeliportVorpalRyu
  • gmonkey76gmonkey76 ChicagoMember Posts: 1,666
    I read the coments on the article, and some were saying the article itself is fake. Has anyone seen an official response from LEGO? @drdavewatford
    560Heliport
  • LordmoralLordmoral Puerto RicoMember Posts: 774
    Not sure if it was mentioned before but the owner of Lepin is apperantly going to jail and has to pay a fine. I would imagine this might mean tnat China is stepping up to fix their cooperation with outside brands:
    http://www.brickfinder.net/2020/09/02/lepin-boss-sentenced-six-years-jail-term/
  • mattytreksmattytreks San Diego, CAMember Posts: 197
    Lordmoral said:
    Not sure if it was mentioned before but the owner of Lepin is apperantly going to jail and has to pay a fine. I would imagine this might mean tnat China is stepping up to fix their cooperation with outside brands:
    http://www.brickfinder.net/2020/09/02/lepin-boss-sentenced-six-years-jail-term/
    If this is the case, why the is the LEPIN website still up and running?  Shouldn't the first order of business be to halt any & all new orders?
    gmonkey76Lordmoral
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,384
    Brickfinder... the people who don't know Bright Yellow from Brick Yellow. Or yellow from tan, if you prefer. And I hate to say it, but Mould King made a Hammerhead Corvette! So at least in that respect, they didn't copy LEGO! (I do not at all support any kind of piracy.) (Except by the crew of #6285 Black Seas Barracuda- those minifigs are awesome; they can do whatever they want.)
    gmonkey76
  • VorpalRyuVorpalRyu AustraliaMember Posts: 2,316
    Personally, I'm not entirely convinced that the whole fake Lego article isn't just a hoax... It's been long enough for TLG to put out a statement, but nothing...
    gmonkey76Lordmoral
  • panchox1panchox1 The Outer RimMember Posts: 627
    560Heliport said:
    Brickfinder... the people who don't know Bright Yellow from Brick Yellow. Or yellow from tan, if you prefer. And I hate to say it, but Mould King made a Hammerhead Corvette! So at least in that respect, they didn't copy LEGO! (I do not at all support any kind of piracy.) (Except by the crew of #6285 Black Seas Barracuda- those minifigs are awesome; they can do whatever they want.)


    the Brick Fan also reported on this.

    https://www.thebrickfan.com/raided-lepin-boss-and-associates-sentenced-to-jail/


  • LordmoralLordmoral Puerto RicoMember Posts: 774
    VorpalRyu said:
    Personally, I'm not entirely convinced that the whole fake Lego article isn't just a hoax... It's been long enough for TLG to put out a statement, but nothing...
    That's a good point.
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,945
    mattytreks said:
    Shouldn't the first order of business be to halt any & all new orders?
    Not necessarily - Lepin produces non-license enfringing sets (or those not determined to be enfringement).  The sentence is based on prior conduct - and not the subsequent non-enfringy practices of the current product.

    If an oil company dumps product in the ocean, and years later is found to negligent (or criminally negligent), the company still continues on, presumably with better safeguards in place to prevent future damage.
  • FizyxFizyx ColoradoMember Posts: 1,108
    SumoLego said:

    If an oil company dumps product in the ocean, and years later is found to negligent (or criminally negligent), the company still continues on, presumably with better safeguards in place to prevent future damage.

    Although there is definitely some worthwhile debate to be had about the value of a so-called 'corporate death sentence' for cases of repeated offending, or for particularly large or egregious offenses. 
  • CyberdragonCyberdragon Maryland, U.S.AMember Posts: 522
    https://vtn.cronopoison.pw/lepin-is-gone.html

    What is this...I don't even...what?! My brain hurts!
  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,384
    ^ Ow! Mine too! It reminds me of putting something through Google translate half a dozen times, like English to French to German to Spanish to Japanese to Arabic and back to English, then trying to read it. 
    Charmiefcb
  • SumoLegoSumoLego New YorkMember Posts: 13,945
    Fizyx said:
    ...so-called 'corporate death sentence'...
    Then the corporation 'dies', and its assets, people and IP are sold to other companies - the beat goes on.  Perhaps the idea of a corporate 'death' is symbolic, but symbolism doesn't actually motivate or compel better protections or solutions to the original problem.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    Wow. That review of the Haunted House. It has mentions of their cookie policy, Donald Trump, AROCS, ... but nothing about the Haunted House.

    Even multiple Google translations cannot do that. You need a bad journalist / writer in the first place to cut and paste random items first.
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 296

    CCC said:
    Wow. That review of the Haunted House. It has mentions of their cookie policy, Donald Trump, AROCS, ... but nothing about the Haunted House.

    Even multiple Google translations cannot do that. You need a bad journalist / writer in the first place to cut and paste random items first.

    My take--it's another one of those garbage websites with filler just to get ad revenue.
    FizyxAstrobricks
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 4,166
    Probably computer generated.
    Cyberdragon
  • 8BrickMario8BrickMario Member Posts: 29
    edited December 2020
    This may not be Chinese, but I saw this knockoff of the Grand Piano set in a Hammacher Schlemmer catalogue. Note the curled plant-stalk pieces on the front copying LEGO's pieces. 

  • 560Heliport560Heliport Twin Cities, MN, USAMember Posts: 2,384
    Disgusting.
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,392

    Saw this in The Range. Gotta give them some credit for somehow mashing up duplo blocks with system dinos. As far as I'm aware it's not ripped off a duplo set, but may be inspired by a moc. Did not purchase. 
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 19,645
    8BrickMario said:
    This may not be Chinese, but I saw this knockoff of the Grand Piano set in a Hammacher Schlemmer catalogue. Note the curled plant-stalk pieces on the front copying LEGO's pieces. 

    LEGO's is 18+, whereas this one specifically mentions that children construct it.

    But yeah, pretty obvious copying but LEGO has the lawyers if they want to take action.
  • CyberdragonCyberdragon Maryland, U.S.AMember Posts: 522
    Hammacher Schlemmer have been selling fake Lego for years.

    https://forum.brickset.com/discussion/27577/fake-technic-from-hammacher-schlemmer
    andhe
  • andheandhe UKMember Posts: 3,392
    edited December 2020
    @Cyberdragon Just a sidenote, I believe Erector is called Meccano in the UK. 

    (see thread for context). Gave me a chuckle at least. 
  • CyberdragonCyberdragon Maryland, U.S.AMember Posts: 522
    andhe said:
    @Cyberdragon Just a sidenote, I believe Erector is called Meccano in the UK. 

    (see thread for context). Gave me a chuckle at least. 
    Yes, but I didn't know that at the time.
    andhe
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