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More Harry Potter Lego?

xdeadeyeduckxdeadeyeduck Member Posts: 2
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With the eventual release of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find them, do you think much like the Hobbit line being twinned with LOTR line we will see more Potter Lego?
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  • AdeelZubairAdeelZubair Member Posts: 2,703
    The licence between WB and Lego ends in 2016; hopefully it would be extended for the new films. Harry Potter was a hit for Lego so I cannot see why not.

    The Hobbit sets were great and they also made Lego release sets from the LorR trilogy so hoping for the same with Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them and hope we see some re-releases and new sets from the previous films :)
  • fizicystfizicyst Member Posts: 72
    Since HP was already done, I doubt we will see any strictly Harry Potter sets. They may get branded as "The World of Harry Potter" or something and there is a chance you may see a Hogwart's castle, Hogsmeade or even a Hungarian Horntail dragon. You won't see Sirius Black, Voldemort, etc. as this is all supposed to be 70 years prior and only a very young Dumbledore might be there.
    madforLEGO
  • xdeadeyeduckxdeadeyeduck Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2014
    fizicyst said:

    Since HP was already done, I doubt we will see any strictly Harry Potter sets. They may get branded as "The World of Harry Potter" or something and there is a chance you may see a Hogwart's castle, Hogsmeade or even a Hungarian Horntail dragon. You won't see Sirius Black, Voldemort, etc. as this is all supposed to be 70 years prior and only a very young Dumbledore might be there.

    Yea I'm aware of the time difference, more thinking along the line of how Lego handles the LOTR and Hobbit lines (also 70ish years apart).... i.e could we have a HP line and Fantastic Beasts line? Seems like alot left to be made on the HP part, who know where Fantastic Beasts will take us, so we may see some familiar locations
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they did some Harry Potter sets at the same time, assuming they get the rights for fantastic beasts - which they'd be daft not to.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    edited June 2014
    * Agreed. I think going after the license seems like a no-brainer, and they would be completely crazy not to. They already know how large a success the HP line was was. The market is right in their demographic. While this is earlier, and different, it is still set within the same world, and every HP fan is still going to go see this movie even if the reviews were bad. Considering Rowlings direct involvement, though, I am presuming a good movie.

    If they did produce this line, we would end up with every set. I suspect I am not the only person/family, that would purchase the entire line.

    I do not think, though, there will be any new HP sets. Only sets related to the Fantastic Beast line.

    While I would love to see new HP sets, I do not think they would do HP and Fantastic Beasts at the same time, although, it is a point that they did have LOTR and Hobbit out at the same time despite the LOTR movies being over with. I guess, I still don't see it happening as much as I would absolutely want more HP sets.
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    ^given the success of the Harry Potter theme, if they can make the licensing agreement work to cover both I don't see why they wouldn't do a small number of Harry Potter sets, after all we still get original trilogy Star Wars sets. I don't think we'd see Harry Potter sets continually rereleased but with each Fantastic Beasts wave a couple of Potter sets to accompany, particularly if we see locations like Hogwarts in Fantastic Beasts - which seems very likely to me.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    ^ I would love to see that happen, so I am hoping I am wrong. :-)
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    I'd put money on hogwarts and the hogwarts express at least featuring in the new films and I'd imagine young Dumbledor will have a significant cameo type role. I know it's been announced that the story will start in New York, but Hogwarts has international students and teachers, so it's still pretty reasonable.
  • MatthewMatthew Administrator Posts: 3,714
    Shib said:

    but Hogwarts has international students and teachers

    Not really, pretty much all of the Hogwarts students/staff were British/Irish, JKR's response to the requests for international characters was the fourth book, but the crowds at the world cup and the French/Bulgarian characters are the extent of HP's internationalism.
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    ^double checked, I stand corrected, but the main character (fictional author of) Fantastic Beasts is known to have studied and Hogwarts and had connections to Dumbledor so still a fair assumption we will likely see something of Hogwarts.
  • Lego2012Lego2012 Member Posts: 59
    I would love to see more HP sets.
    I think Fantastic Beasts sets could be a definite possibility, but as much as I'd love them to go back and make more related to the original films/books, I doubt it will happen sadly.
  • Mandalorian_BuilderMandalorian_Builder Member Posts: 197
    I would really love it if they did! My addiction did not set in until well after those sets were discontinued :/
    CHAINSAWLego91
  • Sethro3Sethro3 Member Posts: 982
    Harry Potter LEGO is what brought me out of the box (dark ages), so I'd love more sets. The main problem is, since the last HP wave was 2010-2011, they would most likely rehash some of the same sets over and over again. How many Hogwarts castles and Hagrid Huts do we need?

    But I'd love to see more somewhere. There is so much that world has to offer.
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    My votes would be for:

    Dumbledor's Office - I believe that #4729 is the only existing one which is an old yellow headed set

    Room of requirement patronus training - assuming that enough animal moulds can be used with a silvery/glow in the dark casting.

    Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes - could be done a variety of ways and would be massively fun and could be combined well with #10217
  • MatthewMatthew Administrator Posts: 3,714
    ^ There was also a Dumbledore's Office in #4842.
    CHAINSAW
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    I realise that, but I meant as a standalone set
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 Member Posts: 11,454
    There definitely is still a market for Harry Potter Lego sets. There are plenty of sets to do and rehash. I just don't know how long it will last? Harry Potter is great, but it isn't Star Wars. Will there still be this much excitement for Harry Potter 20 years from now?
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    edited June 2014
    It depends on what other films are out at the same time, but I'd prefer they didn't do more HP (rashing old ground) and do whatever is current. Even if it is another along the lines of PoP or TLR.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    Pitfall69 said:

    There definitely is still a market for Harry Potter Lego sets. There are plenty of sets to do and rehash. I just don't know how long it will last? Harry Potter is great, but it isn't Star Wars. Will there still be this much excitement for Harry Potter 20 years from now?

    I think there will be excitement still. The question to me is if there are continued items to continue to keep in in public light or not. There does not need to be something every year, but even something every 5 years, keeps it visible and very alive.

    I tend to see HP with huge potential and akin to a license that will be as large as Star Wars at some point. Rowling is not dumb, and the fact is the world is still moving forward.

    Pottermore
    Expansion in Florida. New world In California.
    New Trilogy movie.

    Time will tell, though.
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    I guess that depends on whether the films are viewed in later life by kids from 10 years ago like SW was by kids of the 70s. Or 90s if you consider PT to be SW.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    Yup. Agree completely with that CCC. Star Wars was just such an impactful event for many kids that grew up with it. Many wanted to view it again, and give the experience to their kids.
    I suspect HP is not different from that. There are differences, though. Part of HP are the books, and not simply the movies. In addition Star Wars was before digital media and the effects were ground breaking. I saw it at the theaters at least 3 times when it first came to the theaters. Because there was not video one could just watch in 3-6 months, seeing Star Wars was an event. HP could not hit that quite as much with the movies in a digital era, although taking my daughter on opening night was an event for her, and the book openings were huge events.... But I am not sure they hit what Star Wars did, but they do hit in other areas.
    The other difference, which may be the large difference.... Sharing Star Wars was a thing so many guys wanted to pass to their kids. As much as I adored Star Wars and played it and still have my action figures, I am a bit outside the norm in that. Star Wars took on some genderization where it became a thing for dads to do with their kids when the kids were old enough. HP is a bit different and I am not sure if that will be good or bad for the line over time.

    HP I still think can be as big as Star Wars, but it will need a different path.

    Time will tell, though, and some will be dependent on choices Rowling makes as well.

  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    edited June 2014
    Unless JK Rowling sells out all her rights completely I think that we won't have the constant amount of new expanded universe type stuff that has kept Star Wars relevant. She was reluctant to do anything else after she wrapped up the last book, but Warner Bros won her over with the idea of doing Fantastic Beasts as a film trilogy.
    I think I'm part of a generation that didn't quite have the full hype of Star Wars, too young for OT releases and when prequel trilogy came out just a little too old to find Jar Jar funny and was put off as a result. I liked OT, but it's not some massive definitive thing for me.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    She was reluctant to do anything after wrapping up the book, but it isn't like Warner Bros strong-armed her either. There was time and distance between wrapping things up, writing a few unrelated books, and now this project.

    I think the Warner Bros approach came at the correct time for Rowling. Several years earlier and this would not have happened.
    In addition, Warner Bros approached her, BUT she is the one that came back and pitched to them her ideas for such a project.

    From Rowling's facebook page...

    " “It all started when Warner Bros. came to me with the suggestion of turning 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' into a film. I thought it was a fun idea, but the idea of seeing Newt Scamander, the supposed author of 'Fantastic Beasts', realized by another writer was difficult. Having lived for so long in my fictional universe, I feel very protective of it and I already knew a lot about Newt. As hard-core Harry Potter fans will know, I liked him so much that I even married his grandson, Rolf, to one of my favourite characters from the Harry Potter series, Luna Lovegood.
    As I considered Warners’ proposal, an idea took shape that I couldn’t dislodge. That is how I ended up pitching my own idea for a film to Warner Bros.
    Although it will be set in the worldwide community of witches and wizards where I was so happy for seventeen years, 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' is neither a prequel nor a sequel to the Harry Potter series, but an extension of the wizarding world. The laws and customs of the hidden magical society will be familiar to anyone who has read the Harry Potter books or seen the films, but Newt’s story will start in New York, seventy years before Harry’s gets underway.
    I particularly want to thank Kevin Tsujihara of Warner Bros. for his support in this project, which would not have happened without him. I always said that I would only revisit the wizarding world if I had an idea that I was really excited about and this is it.”'

    I think it is very hard to fully immerse yourself in something and simply never return. I could definitely see not returning to the initial characters, but there is still a full world there with amazing stories that have to occasionally tickle your mind. I agree... .it won't be constant, but even without this, she still had new content on Pottermore. She has never fully divested herself, and looking out past this trilogy, I do think it will be hard to ever fully divest herself, unless she creates another world as immersive. Of course, I may be utterly wrong on that. She is protective, though, and I don't ever see her selling all her rights.
    catwrangler
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    Books may get future children into HP but as lego makes sets of films rather than books it is important that the films remain popular if any future sets are to be made.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,987
    Agreed.
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    tamamahm said:

    She was reluctant to do anything after wrapping up the book, but it isn't like Warner Bros strong-armed her either.

    I didn't mean to suggest they had, just pointing out that the amount she is willing to revisit will likely reduce more than increase with each passing project. While it's true that it's hard to leave something as big as that behind she's made it clear that she'll only add things that she thinks could interestingly expand the world without conflict on existing material.
    CCC said:

    Books may get future children into HP but as lego makes sets of films rather than books it is important that the films remain popular if any future sets are to be made.

    Exactly why I think TLG might be wise to revisit the HP theme slightly while selling sets based on the new themes - similar to the LOTR/Hobbit approach, but with the added incentive of the existing demand for HP on the aftermarket. I can't see a huge amount of other future films happening. There might be something else, but I stand by my earlier comment, I think while Rowling holds the rights there won't be masses of additional stuff to feed the theme.
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    Coming soon: "Harry Potter and the Cursed Child" http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33283158 So 2016 will see the first instalment of a new movie franchise (assuming it's successful enough to warrant continuation) and a new original play both set in the world of Harry Potter. Obviously the play does not really impact upon the likelihood of Lego sets in itself but I predict that by Christmas 2016 there will be a new wave of Pottermania and Lego will be capitalising on that with sets for Fantastic Beasts, as a minimum, if not also Dimensions tie-ins and sets relating to the original stories. I'm hoping anyway! And with LotR and the Hobbit now finished as the "fantasy licensed theme" there is a space for them on the product range I think.
  • ecmo47ecmo47 Member Posts: 2,101
    ^ Looks like the title should be "Harry Potter, the Cursed Child".
  • readersamreadersam Member Posts: 62
    I always wished that there were a Number 12 Grimauld Place and a Ministry of Magic HP set. Those are the biggest gaps I think. When I played with my sets while listening to the audiobooks, those were the times that I had nothing to do.
  • FauchFauch Member Posts: 2,662
    new HP sets would be great. some old ones look great but the prices increased quite a bit :(
  • Gooker1Gooker1 Member Posts: 599
    Based on what i've seen news wise, this is a stage play, so most likely will never be any more sets until HP related movies hit the big screen.  Even then, no guarantee they'll revisit the HP movies since the next set of movies won't involve him.
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    No of course there's no guarantee, this is all speculation (carrying on from my previous speculations in the Dimensions thread).

    I did just take a look at certain Other Lego themes though and Indiana Jones, Star Wars, LotR /Hobbit and Pirates of the Caribbean are all cases where a related movie has been released and the Lego sets have covered a range of subject matter from the new film and the previous ones.  

    I can almost envisage the Brickset entries now: "The Wizarding World of Harry Potter",  subthemes "Fantastic Beasts" and "Harry Potter" (and possibly Dimensions). 

    The way things are at the moment, the relationship between TLG  and Warner Bros is pretty inevitable for a long time to come and I think they will both be milking every aspect of it that they possibly can. 
    Sethro3
  • sonsofscevasonsofsceva Member Posts: 542
    It would be great to get some HP sets again. My family only came in on the last wave of sets. Would love some of the iconic moments from the earlier books revisited. My children are still quite young but love the movies and the books and the sets, so there is some generational appeal. If TLG does get the license, I hope they do more than just revisit Hogwarts and the Train and Hagrid's Hut.
  • monkey_roomonkey_roo Member Posts: 1,411
    Just an opinion, but given how huge the HP brand is, how loved the stories are and quite how massive the films were, with three new movies on the way it is almost inconceivable there won't be more HP Lego on the way. Whether any of those waves include the odd 'classic' set who knows, but I find it hard to believe there won't be the sneaky Harry or two along the way.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Member Posts: 10,760
    ecmo47 said:
    ^ Looks like the title should be "Harry Potter, the Cursed Child".
    Should be 'Harry Potter, and the search for more money'
    Sethro3bobabricks
  • Sethro3Sethro3 Member Posts: 982
    ^I think Space Balls already had that covered
    SumoLegomadforLEGO
  • SumoLegoSumoLego Member Posts: 15,216
    ^ I want a UCS Eagle 5.

    (By the way, it's not much of a search.  I'm pretty sure the money just falls out of the printer.)
  • ricecakericecake Member Posts: 878
    SumoLego said:
    ^ I want a UCS Eagle 5.
    Funny, (she doesn't look Druish), I just got this in my Ideas newsletter email recently:
    https://ideas.lego.com/projects/64334
  • wardmwardm Member Posts: 878
    Nothing for fantastic beasts yet? The first movie is already coming out this november.... Why would LEGO make sets for weird and bad movies like prince of persia and lone ranger, but not for the continuation of a HUGE franchise that has proven itself massively popular...
  • LostInTranslationLostInTranslation Member Posts: 5,572
    I read on Eurobricks that there are no sets planned for 2016 apart from two FB Dimensions packs and two HP Dimensions packs (Harry and Hermione).  The poster did hint that 2017 could have some surprises or something like that,  I don't remember the exact wording.
    ShibwardmAdeelZubairchuckp
  • wardmwardm Member Posts: 878
    I'm really hoping they'll do it! Thanks for the info @LostInTranslation
  • catwranglercatwrangler Member Posts: 1,894
    I think Harry Potter has, for the generation that's grown up with it, been of a similar magnitude to the OT for its generation. But yes, whether we'll have an adequate drip feed of new canon to turn it into an evergreen fandom is another question, and whether that will translate into the kind of film or TV series that would work for an ongoing Lego theme is still another.

    I never collected HP Lego when it was out because I was just hitting the "Whoa, licensed Lego really is too expensive" point in my life - of course, now I wish I had, so I wouldn't mind at all if Fantastic Beasts led to some new sets in its own right, and new versions of classic Hogwarts-type sets.
    mnbvc
  • CCCCCC Member Posts: 20,526
    wardm said:
    Nothing for fantastic beasts yet? The first movie is already coming out this november.... Why would LEGO make sets for weird and bad movies like prince of persia and lone ranger, but not for the continuation of a HUGE franchise that has proven itself massively popular...
    They didn't know what the movies would be like (from the viewer and toy buying perspective) when they were in planning stages. Also Lego may well have agreements with the studios to produce sets that they decide.

    I also wonder if doing "old" HP sets is worthwhile now. The kids that grew up with it are probably not quite old enough to be large scale collectors / buyers for nostalgia just yet. Maybe another 5-10 years time. LEGO may well look at LOTR and Hobbit for what happened when there was a current movie and bringing out sets based on new and old. Of course, LOTR is more adult than the HP franchise but they may well draw on their experience there.

  • wardmwardm Member Posts: 878
    @CCC Here in Belgium Harry Potter still lives with youth, from very young to adolescents to nostalgic young adults.. I don't know about the rest of the world, but I think Harry Potter is still quite large for kids nowadays! 
    catwrangler
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459

    I also disagree with the nostalgia part, I'm 27 and "grew up with it" and know that from that front there is a good market. While it's not as common in shops as it was when the films were out, I do still see a fair bit of Harry Potter merch out and selling. I was in dark ages during the original run and would love the chance to get some Harry Potter stuff.

    I suspect that there might have been a question mark over the themes of FB that held LEGO back from investing too much too soon in it - especially after the LOTR/Hobbit lines.

    I'm still optimistic we'll get something from it though, even if it's just a single FB set and some Dimensions packs.

    catwranglerLostInTranslation
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,331
    My 7 year old is currently obsessed with Harry Potter so I would love some HP rehashes.
    mnbvc
  • BumblepantsBumblepants Member Posts: 7,537
    I wonder if the main characters being adults gave toymakers pause about going in big on this film? Or for Lego, perhaps a lack of vehicles to design around was a factor as well.

    Hopefully something will come out in '17 as it would likely have great parts and minifigures.


    catwrangler
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    The main characters being adults was exactly my thinking with question marks over themes.
  • matticus_bricksmatticus_bricks Member Posts: 651
    edited April 2016
    All (or nearly all) the characters in Star Wars and the Superheroes themes are adults though, and that hasn't stopped those themes from being hugely popular. 
  • ShibShib Member Posts: 5,459
    The question mark was more on themes in the film, with a lot of older fans it's not unusual for ofshoot franchises to explore darker elements of the universe
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