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21110 Research Institute

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  • DadDad UKMember Posts: 815
    Diggydoes said:

    I've received a mail stating that due to more orders than sets my order got cancelled! To me it looks like it's gone for good (already)!

    I've spoken to someone today who said it was available again on [email protected] UK for an hour or so this afternoon. Can anyone confirm?

  • teal93mr2teal93mr2 USAMember Posts: 981
    If anyone has an extra, I would be happy to trade something of equal value or purchase outright! Located in Atlanta, USA.
  • emilewskiemilewski CT, USAMember Posts: 475
    edited August 2014
    I have it from a reliable source that there will not be another run of these. Whatever is currently in the supply chain is it. The store near me got a second shipment in and there were four left yesterday, but that was all they were probably getting.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,901
    If demand is there for Exo and they are replenishing it, and the demand IS CERTAINLY THERE for RI, why wouldn't they do the same?
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    Why didn't they run more rovers? Seemed to be plenty of demand for that too
    LegoKip
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,916
    edited August 2014
    binaryeye said:


    (1x) medium stone gray 3L rod

    That part isn't unique, it was in TLM Super Cycle Chase. It is just a different part number for some reason.

    It also wouldn't surprise me if the 1x1 tile with rounded clip also comes out in other sets, it seems to be a straightforward replacement for the non-rounded version. It was used as alternate parts in three sets (in black), so used in exactly the same way as the other part.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,916
    dougts said:

    Why didn't they run more rovers? Seemed to be plenty of demand for that too

    I wonder if the demand is real. For anyone wanting to build it, you can bricklink it for about £20-25. Sure it wouldn't have the official manual or box.

    I imagine a lot of the demand is because of what it is now worth on the secondary market, rather than real demand.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,409
    I'm sure that is what it really is. If a parents child wants this set, do they want the exact set or something close? Most children don't care about the box or the instructions. A parent could easily piece this set together and even make some substitutions. I don't think many kids would care if it isn't the exact set.

    I would love it if someone would do some vignettes of female minifigures doing other job. A female police minifigure arresting a bad guy or a female minifigure putting out a fire.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,916
    edited August 2014
    Pitfall69 said:

    I'm sure that is what it really is. If a parents child wants this set, do they want the exact set or something close? Most children don't care about the box or the instructions. A parent could easily piece this set together and even make some substitutions. I don't think many kids would care if it isn't the exact set.

    It wouldn't surprise me if people wanting this set for their daughter (or son) don't know anything about lego, let alone that the minifig parts are either common or (IMO) bettered by existing parts. Plus they wouldn't know how to buy parts or even download instructions. if it isn't the one they've seen in the press, or they have to do some work to get it, forget it.
    Pitfall69 said:


    I would love it if someone would do some vignettes of female minifigures doing other job. A female police minifigure arresting a bad guy or a female minifigure putting out a fire.

    The minifigs already exist to do that. The female cop can also arrest a bad girl too.
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 644
    I've watched as people clamored and debated about this set for months now and for the life of me I can not find the appeal of this set. I know the female figures are the draw because someone felt a point must be made (not going to debate my feelings on this, suffice to say that though I feel the end goal is just, I felt this was not)

    So removing gender from this set your left with 1 very uninteresting vignette (chemist) one very nice printed board (astronomer) and a dinosaur from the squarepants era. along with 3 ladies only 1 of which was in proper lab attire, while the paleontologist reminds me more of a tour guide in a museum than a skilled Cretaceous era expert.

    so I have to ask, why? why do so many desire this set? not for resale value, or gender politics I hope. because if those are the only reasons for this set to exist then Lego has made a dangerous and wrong turn somewhere.
  • NatebwNatebw Tampa BayMember Posts: 339
    Well, I want 2 RIs: one to display at my office for kids (I could MOC one without much trouble if I need to) and one for my 7 yo daughter who already has a "science girls" lab that she and I play with. It just just kind of validates that project.

    As I have mentioned elsewhere, @GallardoLU‌, I feel the same about the exosuit. I just don't see why it is a big deal.
    GallardoLU
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 644
    @Natebw clearly you and I are on different worlds for these sets (which is terrific) I think your incorporation of these vignettes to what you already enjoy with your daughter is great! and its exactly the kind of response I needed after all the drama I've read about this set.

    and you did help me realize an appeal to this set. some sets are meant to represent an extension of ourselves in daily life. as this does do. others (the Exo Suit for me) represent a break from that reality and takes one away to another world for a time.

    so thank you! for a perspective I would not have found otherwise.
  • iso3200iso3200 97 miles from Brickset TowersMember Posts: 2,048
    Be quick. Can be ordered again from [email protected] uk with 4th Sept delivery date.
    margot
  • margotmargot Member Posts: 2,310
    edited August 2014
    Just realized that's In the UK. Read too quickly.
  • iso3200iso3200 97 miles from Brickset TowersMember Posts: 2,048
    All gone again already.
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 644
    From Bricks to Banthas: this confirms many fears. seams like its now down to store purchases or waiting on backorder (if you are lucky enough to still be on the backorder list)

    "It’s great to hear you like the LEGO® Research Institute set 21110. A lot of other builders like it too and the response to this new set was overwhelming. I’m upset I didn’t even get a chance to purchase one!

    The set is a product from our LEGO IDEAS site, so it is a bit different than other sets. With the IDEAS sets, fans can upload concepts that can be voted on by LEGO fans. If a concept reaches 10,000 supporters, it’s reviewed by the LEGO Group to determine if it can be put into a limited production run. You can find out more about LEGO IDEAS by visiting LEGO.IDEAS.com.

    It’s a very popular set and we’ve had a lot more orders than we expected. We don’t have any in stock at the moment, and we’re working hard to make more. However, inventory being made is already allocated to the backorders in our system. This item is Sold Out online as we’ll only have inventory in LEGO Stores for the rest of year. As of today, we don’t expect to receive additional inventory for sale online due to the limited production run, which is why the status is ‘Sold out’.

    We have plenty of other great sets that might inspire the LEGO builders in your family. To see all the LEGO toys that have available now, visit LEGO.com/shop. If additional inventory does become available for sale the best way to find out is through our email newsletters. You can access your subscription on the Customer Service website."
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,916
    I wouldn't rely on their email list for notifications. I got an email on Monday saying the exosuit is now out.
  • BrickDancerBrickDancer Dunes of TatooineMember Posts: 3,639
    Back when the Rover was going EOL and another Bricksetter alerted all on it, I made a call to CS and they confirmed the EOL plus stated that they received a memo earlier that there was indeed a change to Cuusoo sets being limited from thereafter in order to adhere to the original philosophy of what the theme was intended to be.

    At the time, I also remember a few others saying 'meh, that's just CS spouting off what they don't know.' But lo and behold, it is becoming true. The Rover did EOL with a real short production run and now we see it taking hold for the RI. The funny thing is, even before the set was released, Perijove mentioned it might be a limited run.

    All of this also puts to rest the other myth of "sets only retire at the end of year, never in the middle." Proven by Rover, SSD, and IR, amongst many others.
    margot
  • kezkez United KingdomMember Posts: 828
    I went into my Lego store yesterday and there was a full shelve of these, sadly I could not pick one up as I am saving up for the tumbler. :D
  • Rainstorm26Rainstorm26 Chicago Burbs USA (and sometimes Ireland)Member Posts: 1,004
    ^you could have flipped a few and turned enough profit to buy the tumbler.
    Pitfall69kez
  • NatebwNatebw Tampa BayMember Posts: 339
    Makes me want to go to Legoland Florida this weekend just to see if there are any RIs squirreled away anywhere.
  • teal93mr2teal93mr2 USAMember Posts: 981
    kez said:

    I went into my Lego store yesterday and there was a full shelve of these, sadly I could not pick one up as I am saving up for the tumbler. :D

    Jealous! I have 2 Lego stores and a discovery center in my city, but NOTHING is available.

    kez
  • legomattlegomatt Member Posts: 2,548
    edited August 2014
    Dad said:

    Diggydoes said:

    I've received a mail stating that due to more orders than sets my order got cancelled! To me it looks like it's gone for good (already)!

    I've spoken to someone today who said it was available again on [email protected] UK for an hour or so this afternoon. Can anyone confirm?
    (edit: Oops, i'm talking about the exo-suit, not the RI set).

    Yes I saw it, and scrambled like a mad hatter to put an order in just in case it really does prove to be gone for good. Only ordered one (and in my haste forgot to add the PAB order is was planning on).

    I didn't dare add two to the basket in case they rejected/cancelled it automatically (though ideally i would like a second; One to mod, the other to remain unchanged).
    But if they're already canceling previous orders, then they might cancel my one anyway.
    Time will tell. Now the waiting game begins...
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,125
    I just can't wrap my brain around TLG really making the mistake similar to the Mars Rover and not making enough to meet initial demand. Albeit, the RI did not have the hype the Exo-Suit had prior to release; they still should have forecasted sales and ensured they had enough to at least last a week? LOL. I mean, is that too much to ask from a brand new product?
  • binaryeyebinaryeye USMember Posts: 1,734

    Albeit, the RI did not have the hype the Exo-Suit had prior to release

    I'm not sure this is true. The Exo-Suit may have been more hyped in the AFOL community, but the Research Institute got quite a bit of mainstream coverage when it was announced in early June.
  • NatebwNatebw Tampa BayMember Posts: 339
    edited August 2014

    @piratemania7‌

    This gets back to my other thread. I think TLG is doing this intentionally.

    PS - And @binaryeye‌, being a binocular vision specialist, I have a certain affinity for your handle. :)
    piratemania7
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,125
    Natebw said:


    @piratemania7‌

    This gets back to my other thread. I think TLG is doing this intentionally.

    PS - And @binaryeye‌, being a binocular vision specialist, I have a certain affinity for your handle. :)

    OY VEJ!
  • kezkez United KingdomMember Posts: 828

    ^you could have flipped a few and turned enough profit to buy the tumbler.

    Haha I should've bought them however I didn't go with enough money, maybe next time I visit I may well get one or two. :D
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    Natebw said:


    @piratemania7‌

    This gets back to my other thread. I think TLG is doing this intentionally.

    It's most definitely intentional. They are going to purposely throttle distribution to maintain the hype.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    ^ I'm fairly sure you couldn't be more wrong.
  • NatebwNatebw Tampa BayMember Posts: 339
    edited August 2014
    @cheshirecat‌ wrong about which part?
  • emilewskiemilewski CT, USAMember Posts: 475
    I think TLG underestimated the demand of the set. I heard they made LOTs of them...many many more than the rover and were confident that supply would be sufficient...and were caught off guard when it wasn't.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    edited August 2014
    That it's intentional, that they're purposefully doing anything, and that they wish to maintain the hype. So all of it - like I said, couldn't be more wrong.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098

    That it's intentional, that they're purposefully doing anything, and that they wish to maintain the hype. So all of it - like I said, couldn't be more wrong.

    We shall see.
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,263
    Without an official LEGO rep coming out and admitting something there won't be anything for us "to see". If they don't make more, that doesn't prove anything. If they make more, that doesn't prove they are trying to extend the hype. Whether they thought they made enough or not, they're still sold out. Just like Minecraft maybe they underestimated and they will now make more, maybe the statement about them wanting the releases to be more like the original ideas plans is the way they are going.

    The one thing @chesirecat is wrong about is "they're purposefully doing anything" is not wrong. They are purposefully doing exactly what they set out to do. They may not be purposefully extending the hype, but they have intentions and they definitely ARE doing something, so saying they aren't purposefully doing *anything* is false. And not false like my opinion, but fact. They may have released only 10k sets and that was purposefully. They didn't accidentally release 10k sets, but they may have underestimated the market.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,788
    edited August 2014
    Until I see the RI appear on [email protected] as 'Retired product' I reserve the right to my skepticism, that and because that CS email seems to contradict itself:
    "It’s a very popular set and we’ve had a lot more orders than we expected. We don’t have any in stock at the moment, and we’re working hard to make more. However, inventory being made is already allocated to the backorders in our system. This item is Sold Out online as we’ll only have inventory in LEGO Stores for the rest of year. "

    So, by 'rest of the year' do they mean they are making more inventory only for LEGO stores? So is it really 'sold out'?
  • NatebwNatebw Tampa BayMember Posts: 339
    The part that I don't understand is why they are telling people that they don't intend to ever make more. It is one thing to be backordered. It is another to tell people that it is intentionally a small one-time run.

    But I am no expert in this. I just want a set. :)
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,963
    ^ Uh... Lloyd and Minecraft? Remember the huge hit they took from people that wanted these and they could not get them? My understanding was that there were some very upset parents and much of the reseller lockdown went into effect as a direct impact of the issues created because they did not have enough stock of those sets.

    I really can not image Lego purposely did this to create hype.
    I can see them doing a limited run, but again not for the reason of, "Hey, I have a brilliant plan. Let us make these two sets, where one is being hyped all over national news, and the other is hyped all over Lego boards, and make sure we do not have enough stock to meet demand. That will really get our name out there. Never mind those angry ticked off customers, or parents that want to buy RI for their daughters. All publicity is good publicity."

    @CCC, it has been a busy week. I think any response I give to your long statement a few days back, will only be just as long and will not move anywhere. At least what I started writing briefly moved to as long or longer than yours, so I trashed it. I tried rewriting, but it still ended up crazy long. I think this is an area we will simply disagree on.
    prevere said:

    If demand is there for Exo and they are replenishing it, and the demand IS CERTAINLY THERE for RI, why wouldn't they do the same?

    Holidays are coming, and there are new sets that just came out and new sets to still come out this fall, and they have sets coming out this spring. I would presume that any additional run is dependent upon getting the manufacturing capacity to do that. They may just not have the room to get more capacity at this time.





  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,901
    Either way...the demand/hype of acquiring Ideas sets is EVEN HIGHER now going forward. The question if it was done purposely will be answered if TLG produces more Exos and RIs or not. By not producing more, these sets will sell out in minutes rather than hours next time.
    Natebw
  • NatebwNatebw Tampa BayMember Posts: 339
    I'm not really questioning the motive, just the fact that, independent of other factors, TLG has decided to do a small run of RI and shows no sign of making more.

    I have two Lego stores near me. One of them has RI. I don't know if they will have them on Saturday morning, which is the first time I can go.
  • Steve_J_OMSteve_J_OM Cork, IrelandMember Posts: 950
    More RI and Exo Suit on the way:

    https://ideas.lego.com/blogs/1-blog/post/17
    preverelilmonster777lego007
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,125
    "We hope you will be able to secure"

    I strongly dislike verbiage like that - it's so political and so correct on their part that it just strikes a nerve wrong with me...oh well, who am I to speak?

    If anything it makes me think yes more are on the way, but don't hesitate, even more a moment to grab one or two of each while you can.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,901

    More RI and Exo Suit on the way:

    https://ideas.lego.com/blogs/1-blog/post/17

    That is nice news to hear. I hope it's more "for everybody" and not just supply to the stores, but [email protected] as well. And supply to TRU and Target doesn't help much if it sells out in 10 minutes with no limits.
    Legoboylego007
  • NatebwNatebw Tampa BayMember Posts: 339
    Maybe I'm skeptical, but I don't really see how "both sets have sold through their initial stock and are back-ordered" means "that more sets are on the way." They are kind of implying it without explicitly stating that they are making more.

    And I agree with @piratemania7‌ about the corporateees. It is like referring to packaged food as "product" devoid of any quality or value. I hate it.

  • monkeyhangermonkeyhanger Member Posts: 2,939

    I just can't wrap my brain around TLG really making the mistake similar to the Mars Rover and not making enough to meet initial demand. Albeit, the RI did not have the hype the Exo-Suit had prior to release; they still should have forecasted sales and ensured they had enough to at least last a week? LOL. I mean, is that too much tthak from a brand new product?

    It's a big and quick earner for TLG. They make enough to satisfy 50% of long term demand or 80% of short term demand by selling a product in huge demand because of the limited volumes produced. They sell it mostly direct, maximising profit, and they sell it during a traditionally quiet time, well away from the Christmas rush. Seems to me like Lego planned it that way. I'd say that resellers helped them realise their heinous plan for making a quick buck at a quiet time for retailers.
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,125
    It's amazing too considering the Ideas/Cuusoo theme is fairly "new"; there was a time, at least I thought, when this was first getting up and running that there really might be an off chance this would be a mediocre theme; but it's certainly catching on like wildfire.
  • prevereprevere North of Bellville, East of Heartlake, South of Bricksburg, West of Ninjago City Member Posts: 2,901
    ^I think that's because these sets are very unique and hit a comfortable price range for nearly everybody.
  • graphitegraphite USMember Posts: 3,263
    ^ That and the sets themselves are filling holes in the LEGO product lines that might never have been done so people jump on them when available.
  • Ma1234Ma1234 Member Posts: 693
    Natebw said:

    Maybe I'm skeptical, but I don't really see how "both sets have sold through their initial stock and are back-ordered" means "that more sets are on the way." They are kind of implying it without explicitly stating that they are making more.

    I'd say your skeptical. It's clear as day that they are making more.
  • mountebankmountebank Member Posts: 1,237
    If there's one thing I like from a thread it's the application of Kremlinology to the motivations and intentions of TLG.
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