LEGO Ideas Exo Suit (21109) Pricing Revealed

rancorbait

http://www.thebrickfan.com/lego-ideas-exo-suit-21109-pricing-revealed/

CCC

Interesting that they cannot copy the value from one site to another though. $34.99 or $34.95?

graphite

^ I think most regular priced sets on [email protected] are $XX.99.

bkpr

:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbMOf9Zwnpk

Crowkillers

^^^ Looks pretty good..!

Odindusk

Lego_Nabii just shared some comments on Reddit regarding this set.

(reddit comment): "Been waiting for this one! It's interesting to see how different it is from the original build. It looks like they changed literally changed every component. I understand why many of the changes were made but it removes some of the nice details. If you never saw the original, this set would be the coolest thing ever but having studied the original for many months, it's a bit of a bummer seeing the changes. Now I'm not saying that I'm super stoked and won't buy four of them, it's just a bit more change than I wanted."

Lego_Nabii: Sorry, I stuck as close as I could. Pete's original is fragile as hell. built with parts that don't exist anymore, are only single stud connections being asked to carry too much weight or are connected in 'illegal' ways and it requires some skill to pose. This one had to be stable and this necessitated many changes, my aim was to keep as much greebling as possible while maintaining the feel, look and scale of the original.



(reddit comment): "I wonder if it was just too fragile. The original design is said to be very prone to lose parts if handled too careless. How was the piece attached?"

Lego_Nabii: Thank you. Yes, the arms were held together with several single stud connections in Pete's original design. I had to change it in order to make it stable enough to pass as a LEGO model. Had to use the barrel as there are some connection parts I hid inside it and really wanted to keep Pete's lozenge shaped forearms. Wish I'd had enough colour changes to make the barrel light grey, but I only had a few and other things took priority (like getting a classic spaceman instead of re-using a Galaxy Squad figure).

CCC

I completely understand the changes. Many of these will be played with by kids. If the arms or legs keep falling off under play conditions, it is a bad advert for LEGO. If an AFOL wants to modify the design in a way similar to the original submission for a display piece, there is nothing stopping them.

Paperballpark

To be fair, I actually much prefer the new version. The old was was a bit 'meh' for me (but then I'm a bit too young for the original classic space), whereas to my eyes, the new version looks a bit 'chunkier' and more imposing. I especially like the increased height above the minifi.

Odindusk

Yes. Some LEGO fans quickly forget that these Ideas submissions need to translate into an actual set that holds up to a certain level of play and swooshing, which is more of a priority for the LEGO brand than it is to keep them true to the original submission. But there's a balance there that I'm sure they strive to maintain.

rancorbait

I love the new design, however, I'm not too keen on all the dark grey, it doesn't look right in my opinion.

CapnRex101

^ I suppose that comes down to the limitations on casting some of the parts in a new colour. I agree that there are elements that would look better in light bluish grey though.

plasmodium

I think it looks brilliant. I haven't compared images of the two side by side, but it looks like a good compromise of the original design and playability/stability to me.

legomatt

Does anyone have a nifty side-by-side comparison shot perchance, original vs actual.

(NOT to bash the actual model with), but for an easy way to see the changes/compare the two. I thought the original was proportioned differently/smaller maybe, but i can't remember.

(I'll probably go rooting for a few images later...)

Green space figs. Cool. But i wish they'd given the female a female torso - i know, i know, some people don't like them, but I'm from the school of retro-space where suits were figure-hugging and totally impractical, and rayguns went zzzzzzap-blaaap.

:o)

Aanchir

Here's the original, for reference. I think stability was definitely the main issue. Illegal connections honestly were not that prevalent on the original model — the main ones I see are the design of the rollcage and the Technic pins in the upper legs, along with studs being attached to both sides of a Technic half-pin for the elbows. Generally, I think the final model is tremendously faithful to the spirit of the original while still improving on it in terms of structural stability.

I like the turtle being included as a bonus! Great way to pay tribute to the original project creator!

Also, inb4 people complaining about the helmet being all wrong and ruining the classic spaceman.

TheBigLegoski

^Personally I think the 'newer' helmet is fine. Let the old helmet be a relic of an age gone bye. Plus the 'newer' helmet comes with a visor, which is a nice plus.

thanks for the link btw.
I too think they remained faithful to the original design.
I love this exo-suit!
Plus green classic astronauts. Nice!

@legomatt
You were perhaps thinking of something like this:

mathew

Aanchir said:

Also, inb4 people complaining about the helmet being all wrong and ruining the classic spaceman.

In the case of the Exosuit I don't mind. It's neo-classic space. The issue I had with previous minifigs (including the recent UK white spaceman) is that they are supposed be recreations of the original.

bobabricks

Has any body else noticed that their ship is named after a terrorist group, seriously listen at 0:10...

Anyway, I like the green space suit and the exo-suit is amazing. :D

CCC

mathew said:

Aanchir said:

Also, inb4 people complaining about the helmet being all wrong and ruining the classic spaceman.

In the case of the Exosuit I don't mind. It's neo-classic space. The issue I had with previous minifigs (including the recent UK white spaceman) is that they are supposed be recreations of the original.

How do you know they are recreations of the original? I haven't got mine yet but does the set claim to be a reproduction of classic space?

Aanchir

mathew said:

Aanchir said:

Also, inb4 people complaining about the helmet being all wrong and ruining the classic spaceman.

In the case of the Exosuit I don't mind. It's neo-classic space. The issue I had with previous minifigs (including the recent UK white spaceman) is that they are supposed be recreations of the original.

Recreations, or tributes?

Honestly it seemed just as bizarre to me when people complained about this BIONICLE mask redesign in 2010. What does it matter if the dimensions are slightly altered? The fact that they cared enough to make a tribute to the original in the first place speaks much louder to me than the fact that they made some necessary changes.

bricktuary

http://shop.lego.com/en-GB/D2C-Minifigure-Retro-Set-2014-5002812

Full description of the classic white spaceman promo here.
I can't wait to get mine.

Also really looking forward to the exo suit, obviously.

Shib

In many ways I prefer the new helmet on any new sets, because it puts everything in context of when it's released. I think it's nice to think that we might see a Neo classic space theme rise from this but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. Great looking set though, I know lots of people don't like the barrel, but I really like it, it looks like a rubber pump on the arm.

mathew

CCC said:

mathew said:

Aanchir said:

Also, inb4 people complaining about the helmet being all wrong and ruining the classic spaceman.

In the case of the Exosuit I don't mind. It's neo-classic space. The issue I had with previous minifigs (including the recent UK white spaceman) is that they are supposed be recreations of the original.

How do you know they are recreations of the original? I haven't got mine yet but does the set claim to be a reproduction of classic space?

http://brickset.com/article/11646/review-5002812-classic-spaceman-minifigure

The fact that they call it "Classic Spaceman Minifigure" and included a booklet detailing the visual history of Lego Space systems it seems to me that they meant it as a recreation or reproduction.

It doesn't really matter. I would love to be able acquire the set regardless of the helmet because it's a cool collectable. I would add a clear visor to it though. The motorcycle helmet looks stupid without a visor. And yes, I know that the classic space guys were sans visor, but it's charming in it's own way.

CCC

They don't call it classic spaceman minifigure. That is brickset's name for him. Lego just call him retro.

I don't think Lego use the term classic space.

bricktuary

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caperberry

legomatt said:

Does anyone have a nifty side-by-side comparison shot perchance, original vs actual.

The final teaser image Pete released on Thursday showed the two versions side by side, but with the new version mostly covered... I'm guessing he'll reveal the entire image in due course.

kez

I quite like the Lego exo suit, however the highlight of this model is imo the green classic space minifigures, I certainly can't wait to get my hands on some of those. :D

Wil348

Wow, this looks great! I've already managed to get Benny's SSS and the White Astronaut, now all I need to do is get this and I'll have a nice little squad of classic spacemen. I could throw in the LEGO Universe astronaut too and a Mars Mission astronaut as a captain I guess.

I really love that we are getting green classic astronauts, but they are forgetting that green isn't a creative colour!

bobabricks

@Wil348 That video scarred me XD

yys4u

After looking back on the original image I can now notice all the differences they changed. Usually I'd be disheartened at the changes, but as others mentioned it still stayed true to the feel of the original. What I didn't like about the new one is it seemed too "bionicle" for me, but I do plan on handling it quite a bit for poses and such so I would prefer a sturdier model. Love the turtle and green space figures, great touches!

LegobrandonCP

I'm not normally a "mech" guy, but I will definitely be purchasing one or more of these. It looks really cool.

How many are you guys planning to buy?

AdeelZubair

People are saying they I buying multiples of this set; I hope Lego has made a similar amount of Exo Suit sets as the Back to the Future, Ghostbusters and Minecraft sets.

Otherwise many people would be unhappy.

AdeelZubair

People are saying they are purchasing multiples of this set; I hope Lego has made a similar amount of Exo Suit sets as the Back to the Future, Ghostbusters and Minecraft sets.

Otherwise many people would be unhappy.

CCC

It will be interesting to see the way they market both this and the female minifigure / research institute set. Will they do both on general release or one on wide release and one exclusive. If either is a short run there will be complaints. Two very different models, two very different audiences, two very different reveals, two very different headline (or not) makers.

Given the work behind the reveal for the exosuit I cannot see it being a short run, but then with the negative headlines likely if the female set is a short run, that is unlikely too. But the new there is the inclusion of a female minifigure in the exosuit, presumably to make it female friendly? So it will be interesting how these are sold, and how they sell.

icey117

@legomatt‌ Voìla!

Wil348

That's actually pretty close to the original for something that they've had to revise for stability. The amount of detail on the final version, while less than the original, is still pretty spectacular for a set this size.

scrumper

There is a side by side picture on the main site now.

Matthew

Here you go...

CCC

I don't mind the barrels in the arms so much, for me it is the legs that have lost detail. Especially around the ankles / shins. Although that is clearly for stability.

cheshirecat

Yep the bionicle style ankles are the one part I'm not keen on and that's more than made up for with better stability. The other bits are only minor things or actual improvements. If it was as unstable as is said then it had to be changed. A set this cool HAS to be played with!

jediami65

CCC said:

I don't mind the barrels in the arms so much, for me it is the legs that have lost detail. Especially around the ankles / shins. Although that is clearly for stability.

I hate the barrels arms, seriously they could not have used the original idea on these parts? or at least something that looked like metal? this is not supposed to be Metalbeard.

jediami65

I like the taller figure, the arms are the only thing I have a issue with I think that's where they really missed the the boat, will probably have to try to switch that back to look more like the original, the gears on the should all that detail lost.

fenderbender336

This has to be my favorite summer set so far. Definitely buying at least 2.

Bumblepants

I like the addition of trans-yellow bits. Adds a nice splash of color without being overdone and adds to the classic space vibe.

devilhead

bobabricks said:

Has any body else noticed that their ship is named after a terrorist group, seriously listen at 0:10...

Listened to it several times and kept thinking "There's a terrorist group called 'Arcadia'?".

LegobrandonCP

Thanks for the side by side comparison pic @Matthew‌.

I like the original model more because it's more compact and has a lot less gaps and empty space.

Wil348

I don't really mind the barrel arms, I'm sure it's an easy mod and to be honest they don't really look bad anyway. The rest if the model looks really cool though.

Aanchir

I'm kind of surprised how many people are disappointed with the BIONICLE joints in the final model.. I understand that a lot of AFOLs dislike BIONICLE, but as a constraction fan I always assumed that what people disliked was the number of huge, specialized, high-detail pieces it uses. It never occurred to me that people would dislike the look of the joints themselves. And other than its very basic joint pieces and a single silver hose from the Toa Mahri sets back in 2007, this model doesn't really use any BIONICLE or Hero Factory parts.

Beyond that, even the official model used BIONICLE joints. It just used the older ball cups that were more greebly but also more fragile, and covered them up with minifigure neck brackets to hide them even further. It also used fewer of them, since it only used them for the hips and shoulders and not for the knees or ankles.

1265

The original one looks weak standing next to the final version. I prefer the final version as it looks menacing and built for playability.

bobabricks

devilhead said:

bobabricks said:

Has any body else noticed that their ship is named after a terrorist group, seriously listen at 0:10...

Listened to it several times and kept thinking "There's a terrorist group called 'Arcadia'?".

Well it still sounds to much like it, I mean Lego had endless names they could have come up with.

1265

bobabricks said:

devilhead said:

bobabricks said:

Has any body else noticed that their ship is named after a terrorist group, seriously listen at 0:10...

Listened to it several times and kept thinking "There's a terrorist group called 'Arcadia'?".

Well it still sounds to much like it, I mean Lego had endless names they could have come up with.

Maybe this is Denmark's continuing way in supporting the War on Terrorism. The Exo Suit would be great in eliminating the terrorists.

Aanchir

bobabricks said:

devilhead said:

bobabricks said:

Has any body else noticed that their ship is named after a terrorist group, seriously listen at 0:10...

Listened to it several times and kept thinking "There's a terrorist group called 'Arcadia'?".

Well it still sounds to much like it, I mean Lego had endless names they could have come up with.

It doesn't sound remotely like it, at least not how we pronounce it here in the United States. News reports here always pronounce it "Alk-EYE-duh", not "alk-AY-duh". "Arr-KAY-dee-uh" doesn't sound like it at all.

Beyond that, Arcadia is an incredibly common name. See here. 19 of the 50 U.S. states have towns named Arcadia. My home state has two of them. I can't imagine a lot of people's minds would jump to a terrorist organization when they hear it.