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The movie-specific Ninja Turtles display featured three items. The Turtles’ lair set-up included minifigures of Leonardo riding a skateboard and Donatello donning what looked to be night vision goggles. The building was a two-story structure with a slide for easy ground floor access on one side. One small detail worth noting is a gold sword that slid underneath the ground floor, presumably for hiding. The second package came with two vehicles, a large van and a smaller truck. The truck belonged to the April, Leonardo and Raphael minifigures and the van to two Foot Soldiers and a character that could possibly be Minae Noji who’s rumored to play Karai. That larger van opens up along the side, revealing an extensive laboratory including tiny bottle cap-like pieces representing the ooze. The final set included yet another vehicle, a green Humvee of sorts for Raphael and Michelangelo. We’ve also got a Foot Solider manning a security tower attached to a drive-thru gate. In between that gate and the Turtles is a fourth character trapped in a chair, possibly Will Arnett’s Vernon Fenwick, suggesting that the sequence of play is meant to be the turtles driving up to a Foot facility to rescue Vernon who’s trapped inside.
Leaving Ben & Luke out isn't really my argument, I was just agreeing with whoever mentioned it, that the barman would be a nice addition. I also think the set is a good 'un as is.
Of course, the two situations aren't mutually exclusive of each other, either. For the sake of a single human barman, requiring no special mold, I don't see any big reason to really leave him out. It is HIS bar, after all, and it would hardly blow the budget on the set to include one barman. He needn't be at the expense of anything.
And I agree that 'Stand alone' is usually the reason for the inclusion of something (in this case Ben & Luke), but it doesn't work as a reason for exclusion (Barman).
That decision is likely more one of cost versus added value. TLG would have decided that to include as barman (or anything else) would not appreciably increase perceived value enough to push the price, while leaving him out didn't decrease perceived value at the target price point either. So it's more cost-effective to leave him out, as it is likely not to effect sales.
The barman would just be one of those 'they didn't have to do it' little additions that we occasionally spot in various sets. In this case, they didn't. :oP
I love those minifigs! The stormtroopers are spot on, the Imperial officers = awesome, and the Palpatatine hologram! 8oD Just Vader's head looks a little strange imo...
The landspeeder doesn't have to be in the set, though it at least make some sense. I think its inclusion would make more sense if there were a Jawa for Luke to sell it to. Of course that was never going to happen because it would reduce desirability for the upcoming sandcrawler.
The lack of Wuher doesn't bother me much. His main role is to say the droids aren't allowed in the cantina. And without the droids, including him wouldn't accomplish much. And really, of all the characters from the cantina scene, Wuher is probably the most MOCable. Obi-Wan's legs and torso from #7965 or #8092, "classic" brown hair (e.g. Han), and a head like this would work for me.
The biggest miss for me is the inclusion of the Sandtrooper and dewback. Sure, they were in Mos Eisley, but they don't figure into the cantina scene at all. These two should have been in #9490 instead of the inexplicable swoop.
I'll be buying it regardless, because it's the only Star Wars set I'm really interested in yet this year. But it sure would have been nice to see Ponda Baba and a Jawa or Wuher instead of the Sandtrooper and dewback.
I don't understand the inclusion of the hologram of Palpatine. Wasn't that scene aboard Executor?
Having just recently released a "these aren't the droids you're looking for set", they should have skipped the nougat scooter and added more texture to the building and/or more patrons.
@ccc is right in that the bartender goes where the droids go so that is likely why he was left out. The "you'll be dead" guy might be the the most graphic scene in the movie and many kids might try and take his arm off. I can understand TLG wanting to completely steer clear of that. And since no other patrons talk, it does make sense to only include the bith. Of course they obviously want us to buy two sets.
In the spirit of single set playability, I guess I'm ok with the stormie but would have preferred to drop the scoot and dew and give the building a little more thought. And don't forget, we can fill the excuse for a bar with other figs including the awesome hammerhead.
Maybe find a way to do a advent type calendar set where you can add the figures.. I dunno
@CapnRex101 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was a dewback...
(Why is it always, always, those throwaway afterthought comments that people pick up and run with, at the total expense of the actual point being made? LOL)
The next person to tell me I have to include Luke and Ben gets a 'Life of Brian' clip telling everyone to F*** off. ;o)
You asked for it! ;o)
Neither work safe, nor child-friendly, clip of the aforementioned moment as promised
(I'd better just make it clear for those not getting the joke, that i was writing in jest, and not being serious).
What is the deal with all the cheekbone lines on licensed minifigs now? Even 19-year-old Luke has severe cheekbones. Black Widow was the first time I thought it looked horrible, but now it's on 90% of the new minifigs. I think they're going a little overboard with the detail. Vader looks really bizarre.
LEGO really needs to release a new Stormtrooper battle pack. It's impossible to troop-build when they keep releasing 1-2 per year with a new re-design every time.
I'm sure someone will tell me the odds :-)
For crying out loud. Can't people understand context anymore? Since when did saying something as innocent as 'an X fig would be nice' cause such horror and consternation amongst lego fans? Are you all undercover executives watching the profit margins, or something?
Just take the freaking gourd, I don't want it!
Right. This is the last I will say on this extremely stupid subject, which has got quite out of hand from such a simple, passing, comment. I will entertain no more questions beyond this point, except to pour ridicule and scorn... Or i will be in the madhouse, screaming.
(I only said that piece of halibut was good enough for...)
OK. That 'bonus fig' comment was made in the context of added value to a set (a figure that is not strictly necessary for the set to be considered 'Stand Alone'). Lego do this all the time. No, i will not provide examples.
These added 'bonus/extra/nice to see' figs (let's not get caught up on the word) are not strictly necessary because, as had been discussed by others, a set is centred around the 'Hero's Journey'. Therefore, in the Rancor set, the heroes journey is Luke's battle with the Rancor. Everything and anything else beyond that is superfluous to making it 'Stand Alone'. Luke & Rancor are all it needs. The rest is gravy, as they say.
So. The set could just as easily been released as the Rancor Monster vs Luke only. We then might even have had this very same conversation if someone had said 'What a missed opportunity for giving us a Keeper fig, it would have been a nice extra', which apparently would've been met with derision of the sort seen - such as 'but he's just a boring fat guy/unnecessary extra/pushes price for no gain' etc.
The point being, that set didn't have to have anything else to make it 'stand alone', but we are all pleased that the keeper was included anyway.
He is a 'bonus' in the sense that they didn't have to include him at all (the set works fine without him), and had he been omitted we would never have known the difference. It doesn't matter how many figs any set has, or has not, there is no law regarding fig numbers (except to be accompanied with exclamation marks. Two figs!!! Eight figs!!! 24 FIGS!!!)
We got the band, right? We didn't have to get the band... imagine the discussion if they'd not done the band. I'm glad we got the band. I'd be gladder if we'd also got Ponda Baba or the barman too. It's that simple: 'wouldn't it be nice if...' Answer: Yes it would be nice if.. unless of course you all have a pathological hatred of bartenders (?).
Right, where's the line for Crucifixion? Compared to this, it'll be a doddle.
None of the 'but. but. but' reasons against will ever change the fact that all i said, and i stand by it, is that the barman would've been nice behind the bar. That is all.
I don't actually care what the connotations are for TLG, how it affects their bottom line, how much sleep at night they get... no i don't want the gourd.
I will be buying the set (as it's a good set) and supplying my own bar tender... at this point i might give him a rocket launcher.
Stormies. I do find it a tad frustrating that the basic stormy is so sporadic in appearance. (The clone he's made from must be a bit of a diva, methinks).
I don't mind the changes so much, but the nigh impossibility of actually buying them by the handful to form a coherent squad is somewhat irksome. Part of me loves the leg printing, the OCD in me will want all my Stormies to have leg printing.
I just thought! (don't worry, it's not contagious)... could it be possible that Ponda Baba will be the May 4th Promo? Does that fit all the criteria that the 'insider' claimed?
(I'll have to go find the thread (to avoid this one spiraling O.T.)
Just don't tell me he's announced a competition...