Rumoured Summer 2014 Lego sets?

dashofdashing

Does anyone know of any rumoured sets to be announced in possibly at Toy Fair next year? I'm hoping for a new updated Sandcrawler. What's everyone hoping to see at NYC Toy Fair? Possibly a 3rd wave of LOTR?

LegoFanTexas

^ A UCS Sandcrawler is coming out this coming year, or so says the rumor mill.

rancorbait

A few Star Wars sets I'm hoping to see in 2014:

1- Clone turbo tank. New Minifigs: Luminara Unduli, Commander Cody.

2- Octuptarra Droid. New Minifigs: Ki Adi mundi, Commander Bacara, Galactic Marines.

3- UT-AT. New Minifigs: Commander Bly, 327th star corps troopers, Aayla secura.

4- Bail Organa's airspeeder with landing pad. New Minifigs: Bail Organa, Zett Jukassa, 501st troopers.

5- Tie bomber. New Minifigs: ?

CapnRex101

All of the above would be great, particularly if they could make the Turbo Tank a little bit larger than previous versions.

ecmo47

If the USC Sandcrawler becomes reality, I wonder if the CUSOO submission will get any credit.

ecmo47

I'd love to see some LOTR/Hobbit beasts like the Smaug, the oliphant, the Nazgul or how about a USC Grond? At least they would not be another pile of grey bricks!

dashofdashing

Fingers crossed about Sandcrawler,this is one of my most wanted sets. I would love to see a new cantina set with possibly the Cantina Band in and Han Solo and Greedo. Possibly a new Watto's Junkyard. Fingers crossed there still is life in LOTR sets,it's only theme that I'm buying every set for.

dougts

ecmo47 said:

If the USC Sandcrawler becomes reality, I wonder if the CUSOO submission will get any credit.

why would it? It's not like LEGO didn't know about the Sandcrawler, already have the license to do it, and quite possibly already had it in the works. Not to mention, whatever version they come up with will be nothing like the wondrous MOC that hit 10k on Cuusoo.

IMHO, anyone wasting their time on Cuusoo submissions for Star Wars sets is doing just that. LEGO would be silly to ever pass one of these out of review.

Ma1234

Supposedly new trains are finally coming this summer.

LegoFanTexas

dougts said:

Not to mention, whatever version they come up with will be nothing like the wondrous MOC that hit 10k on Cuusoo.

IMHO LEGO missed a huge chance here...

Why not make it like the one on Cuusoo? Yes, it would be crazy expensive, but it also would be a cross promotion with Cuusoo and get a lot of attention.

Even if they only sell 10,000 of them, why not? It would be a heck of a "flagship" set. If they priced it at $1,000, made it a limited numbered 1 of 20,000, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

Legofanscott

LegoFanTexas said:

dougts said:

Not to mention, whatever version they come up with will be nothing like the wondrous MOC that hit 10k on Cuusoo.

IMHO LEGO missed a huge chance here...

Why not make it like the one on Cuusoo? Yes, it would be crazy expensive, but it also would be a cross promotion with Cuusoo and get a lot of attention.

Even if they only sell 10,000 of them, why not? It would be a heck of a "flagship" set. If they priced it at $1,000, made it a limited numbered 1 of 20,000, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

Who here would pay $1000 for a huge brown box? You can count me out

I certainly wish they would make more "HUGE" sets though, once youve built a huge set such as the death star, even the modulars start to feel underwhelming to build :(

rancorbait

^Solution: don't buy such large sets, you'll save money, and enjoy the 'smaller' sets more too!

Can't go wrong with that ;-)

Legoboy

^^ On the contrary, the DS as long as it took to build and as visually pleasing it was when it was finished, it wasn't 'alf boring to build. I couldn't wait for it to end. Modulars on the other hand are clever. I enjoy making window surrounds out of funny little elements that look like they belong on a spaceship etc etc. I almost don't know which bit of it is I'm building until it's finished

If a $1,000 Sandcrawler with all of the gizmos and PFs were included, I'd have trouble saying no. I believe @LFT would have trouble buying just one too. :-P

LegoFanTexas

^ Yea, it may "seem" like a big brown box, but keep in mind that between power functions, remote control, the internal powered parts, the lights, etc...

Epic is about the only word I can think of...

It isn't meant to sell a million sets, but it could sell quite a few. DS is $400 and sells to a lot of kids because it is a play set. Sandcrawler needs to be a playset, it is just screaming out to be a play set.

Aanchir

LegoFanTexas said:

^ Yea, it may "seem" like a big brown box, but keep in mind that between power functions, remote control, the internal powered parts, the lights, etc...

Epic is about the only word I can think of...

It isn't meant to sell a million sets, but it could sell quite a few. DS is $400 and sells to a lot of kids because it is a play set. Sandcrawler needs to be a playset, it is just screaming out to be a play set.

The Death Star is far more significant than a Sandcrawler. It is a setting for several scenes in two out three films from the original trilogy. The Death Star, housed a diverse array of scenes such as the Trash Compactor, the final fight with Emperor Palpatine, the destruction of Alderaan, Obi-Wan's infiltration scene, the scene where Luke and Leia swing over the giant hole in the ground, etc. All of these things are incredibly memorable scenes in Episode IV and the series as a whole.

Same goes for the Millennium Falcon, the other major minifigure-scale UCS set. Besides the cockpit and the gun turret, there is also the boarding ramp, the secret compartment, the Dejarik table, and the hyperdrive. It appears as a prominent part in every film from the Original Trilogy.

The Sandcrawler, on the other hand, only serves as an actual setting in one film, and what you see of the interior in that film is dark, cluttered, and uninteresting — nothing at all like the Death Star or Millennium Falcon. The most noteworthy or memorable thing that happens in the vicinity of a Sandcrawler happens outside the Sandcrawler, when Owen and Luke show up to purchase the droids.

It's true that there's a lot of interior detail you could work into a Sandcrawler model. But how much would any of that detail MATTER to the average person? Barely any of it will be stuff they recognize from the movies. Unlike smaller and sleeker vehicles, it would have an abundance of interior space that would be either left empty or filled with things that have no special significance to anyone. And the outside, which people would recognize, is (as others have stated) a brown box. At best it has treads (which would provide just as much play value as the treads in any LEGO City construction vehicle) and possibly lights and motors (which would inflate the price even beyond the ridiculous price you'd have to pay for the size of the thing alone).

Overall, there are plenty of vehicles and scenes that would be more significant and nostalgic for a lot of buyers. Theed Palace, for instance, is very distinctive from both the interior and exterior, and houses an abundance of important scenes from Episode I. Another good setting is Cloud City, which is probably due for another set by this point. Likewise, it'd be great to see a UCS version of Anakin's Podracer, or a standard TIE Fighter (we've only ever had the Interceptor and the X1 as UCS sets), or the Slave I. A sandcrawler seems pretty much unnecessary to me. The old one was not perfect, but it was probably about as good as it could be for any reasonable price, and certainly as good as a vehicle with such brief significance probably deserves.

LegoFanTexas

^ All of that is true, but keep in mind that the Sandcrawler features R2 and C-3PO.

The argument for a UCS AT-AT is equally as weak, in terms of screen time and what they did. Ok, to be sure, they destroyed the power generator that was powering the shield on Hoth, there was a pretty cool battle scene, which helps... but we never saw the interior, other than the small cockpit, and otherwise it was just a walking tank.

What REALLY needs to be done is Cloud City, done up in the size and style of Death Star. Enough happened there to make it interesting.

dougts

A cloud city in that style, size and price point seems an obvious winner for LEGO. Which means it probably won't happen

Legofanscott

LegoFanTexas said:

^ All of that is true, but keep in mind that the Sandcrawler features R2 and C-3PO.

The argument for a UCS AT-AT is equally as weak, in terms of screen time and what they did. Ok, to be sure, they destroyed the power generator that was powering the shield on Hoth, there was a pretty cool battle scene, which helps... but we never saw the interior, other than the small cockpit, and otherwise it was just a walking tank.

What REALLY needs to be done is Cloud City, done up in the size and style of Death Star. Enough happened there to make it interesting.

The first Star Wars vehicle i can ever remember seeing was an AT-AT

I think the AT-AT is far more well known for how unique of a vehicle it was rather than actual screentime it had

Aanchir

LegoFanTexas said:

^ All of that is true, but keep in mind that the Sandcrawler features R2 and C-3PO.

The argument for a UCS AT-AT is equally as weak, in terms of screen time and what they did. Ok, to be sure, they destroyed the power generator that was powering the shield on Hoth, there was a pretty cool battle scene, which helps... but we never saw the interior, other than the small cockpit, and otherwise it was just a walking tank.

What REALLY needs to be done is Cloud City, done up in the size and style of Death Star. Enough happened there to make it interesting.

I'd love a set like that... only problem is, I can't figure how it'd work geometrically. Unlike the Death Star, which is a sphere (offering easy access to the interior scenes from any direction), Cloud City is basically a flat disk. This means that not every scene could be easily seen and accessed from the sides of an accurately-shaped model — either they'd be too deep, or there'd be some difficult-to-use space left in the center.

Then again, I don't know — maybe some company that makes non-building-toy playsets has already found a good way to tackle that obstacle. It wouldn't entirely surprise me.

madforLEGO

^- Well considering the Stay Destroyers do not sit well either I would imagine LEGO could rig a display stand for the Cloud City

mressin

Legofanscott said:

The first Star Wars vehicle i can ever remember seeing was an AT-AT

I think the AT-AT is far more well known for how unique of a vehicle it was rather than actual screentime it had

Absolutely. The AT-AT is _the_ iconic Star Wars vehicle.

LegoFanTexas

mressin said:

Absolutely. The AT-AT is _the_ iconic Star Wars vehicle.

Uh... more so than the X-Wing, Falcon, and TIE Fighter?

dougts

I'd put all three of those as more iconic than the at at, and add the ISD to the list as well

adventure_al

ecmo47 said:

I'd love to see some LOTR/Hobbit beasts like the Smaug, the oliphant, the Nazgul or how about a USC Grond? At least they would not be another pile of grey bricks!

Oi watch it! I Love grey bricks!

PeteM

Ma1234 said:

Supposedly new trains are finally coming this summer.

Along with a new station apparently :)

nkx1

^Do you know of a new one, or is this based on the current one retiring?

PeteM

No knowledge on my part, I'm just repeating rumours from the Train Tech forum on Eurobricks - "a decent sized trainstation build in a modern architecture style coming up in august". Fingers crossed! :)

nkx1

Ah, thanks for the info! Maybe I'll wait to build my Horizon Express until then.

Xefan

LegoFanTexas said:

mressin said:

Absolutely. The AT-AT is _the_ iconic Star Wars vehicle.

Uh... more so than the X-Wing, Falcon, and TIE Fighter?

I think they're as iconic to your average Star Wars fan, but the appeal of the AT-AT reaches out well beyond the Star Wars universe. I can't count the number of things I've seen the AT-AT inserted into over the years from political posters about overreaching government to humorous t-shirts to an entire internet meme seemingly dedicated to sticking AT-ATs into random real world photos to alternative universe steampunk fantasies about the things.

Whilst popular in Star Wars fan fiction and so forth I just can't say I've ever seen those other vehicles in such broad ranging scenarios as I have AT-ATs and a quick Google image search for each of the vehicles seems to agree - there are images of AT-ATs that reach into popular culture outside of the Star Wars universe far more than any other Star Wars vehicle I care to search for.

dougts

^ while all this may be true, I don't think it describes what would be the true definition of "most iconic". We aren't talking die hard SW geeks here - we are talking the general populace

Ask 1000 random people to name a vehicle from the Star Wars Universe. MF and XWing would come in 1st and 2nd, probably by a large margin over the rest. I would bet that the TIE, Star Destroyer and Death Star (not really a vehicle, but many people would likely name it anyway) probably finish ahead of the AT-AT.

Alternatively, show 1000 random people pictures of the aforementioned vehicles and ask them what they are from. I suspect similar results would occur

Ma1234

In addition to new train sets, city summer 2014 will see the return of the Arctic exploration theme.

y2josh

LegoFanTexas said:

The argument for a UCS AT-AT is equally as weak, in terms of screen time and what they did.

That's dismissing the iconic nature of the AT-AT, at least to Star Wars fans, and that's where it has a huge leg up on the Sandcrawler, which, if I had to guess, will produce B-Wing-esque sales figures (or worse, at the rumored out-of-control price). The AT-AT is involved in what is probably THE most iconic vehicular battle in all of Star Wars (though I actually think the battle over Endor is superior... but that's just me), while the Sandcrawler plods along in the single most boring act of the original trilogy.

Frankly, I'm stunned that they chose such a lackluster vehicle for the May the 4th tie-in, especially if the September set really turns out to be Slave I, which I assume would outperform the Sandcrawler twenty-fold.

madforLEGO

The new trains really have me interested this year. The Yellow Cargo train was not a bad set, lots of train and activities. Will be interesting if they keep it up for the next generation. Hope the price does not rise though.

Ma1234

The set names have been appearing on Eurobricks. In addition to new train and arctic themes in City, some things that caught my eye are a new Agents theme, a Friends shopping center, an assortment of Jungle-themed Friends sets, a Creator bike shop/cafe and a Mos Eisley Cantina set.

Diggydoes

The Sandcrawler will be priced around 300$/€ and will be a "system"set! We're also going to see a release of the AT-AT and the Imperial Star Destroyer (both system)!
Happy new year fellow Bricksetters,i guess for us OT-fans these are great news?! Ah yeah forgot to mention: CANTINA!!!

epyon396

Ma1234 said:

The set names have been appearing on Eurobricks. In addition to new train and arctic themes in City, some things that caught my eye are a new Agents theme, a Friends shopping center, an assortment of Jungle-themed Friends sets, a Creator bike shop/cafe and a Mos Eisley Cantina set.

I got "Agents" confused with "Alpha Team". I was very excited for a second :(

Paperballpark

60050 Railway Station 423 pieces £35 (approx)
60051 High Speed Train 610 pieces £90 (approx)
60052 Goods Train 888 pieces £150 (approx)

From Eurobricks. Prices are converted from Hungarian Forint and are obviously just ballpark figures.

LostInTranslation

Ma1234 said:

The set names have been appearing on Eurobricks. In addition to new train and arctic themes in City, some things that caught my eye are a new Agents theme, a Friends shopping center, an assortment of Jungle-themed Friends sets, a Creator bike shop/cafe and a Mos Eisley Cantina set.

I don't know where to start. This all sounds fantastic! Return of Agents will be epic!
I'd better start saving :-S

SirKevbags

If there are new trains and a station there needs to be a level crossing. The aftermarket price is ridiculous on #7936 It wouldn't surprise me if one appears included with the new cargo train or station.

Legofanscott

Wonder when the release did will be for one of these? :-)

I do hope its brick built and NOT technic

DrLegOBrick

Holy heart failure Batman! Agents!?!? My keyboard just got showered in tea. What on earth, never in a million years did I expect that! Am I going to be broke. Classic space, Arctic, Agents, Pirates, Johnny Thunder, all them City vehicles, even Police! Never thought I'd say that. This huge Agents HQ sounds fantastic. I'd love it if they had Dash from Alpha Team as the supreme leader of all the Agents.

dashofdashing

Well by looking at sets to be released this year,mos Eisley cantina is on list,yes. I missed out at getting an At-At previously. Tho wonder if it will be based on return of Jedi instead,fit in quite well with with other Ewok based sets. Tho it would only be minifigures that are different,think they've done too much Hoth in recent years.. Another expensive year for me :o

dougts

Since I'm basically buying nothing from the completely lackluster early 2014 sets I can thankfully save my money for the second half sets, which sound 100 times better

rancorbait

I'm hoping they keep the original characters from Agents theme, new ones are welcome but still keep the original, what would Agents be without Chase, Charge, Fuse, and Trace? :-)

binaryeye

dashofdashing said:

I missed out at getting an At-At previously. Tho wonder if it will be based on return of Jedi instead,fit in quite well with with other Ewok based sets.

The preliminary image shows General Veers and Snowtroopers, so probably not.