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Lego and Fire/Rescue equipment.

One thing I've noticed about Lego emergency vehicles lately is that they are neither realistic or well stocked.

Last year's ambulance had a stretcher, EKG, a jumpkit, and something I don't know what they were trying to represent. Most ambulances carry much more than this and have quite a bit more interior space.

Mega Bloks has had both a hydraulic spreader (in an FDNY set a few years ago) and cutter (in a recent Blok Squad set) in their sets plus a one-tank SCBA, dedicated fire ax, and a better looking K-12. The recent fire-rescue set had a very well equipped engine. Lego, none of these.

The Jaws of Life has been around since 1972, but Lego has never tried to do it.

For realism, Lego should attempt to make the equipment for their emergency vehicles more realistic.

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  • Thanos75Thanos75 Member Posts: 1,117
    That brings up a good point. I also noticed that many of the Firefighter minifigs have beards/facial scruff. If I ever showed up for my shift with stuble I would get sent home without pay. You cant get a good seal on the Scott masks with all of that mess going on.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,214
    Why should they aim for realism? Lego minifigs are yellow - not very realistic. Their bodies are much wider than in real life too. Cars, houses, buildings, etc in lego form are made from bricks and other parts that can be easily assembled and disassembled - again not very realistic.

    Part of the charm of lego is that it is not that realistic - it is a fairly safe view of life. If you require highly detailed models, then lego is probably best avoided.

    Real ambulances do have more space but what would you do to change it? Have significantly larger builds to create one so you can get a patient, a family member and a paramedic inside the back, along with all the extra equipment? Meaning the hospital would need to be at least 6ft wide to be realistic at the same scale, and require hundreds of minifigs to populate it?
    StuBoycheshirecatdougtsScottlego667
  • chromedigichromedigi Member Posts: 344
    edited September 2013
    cody6268 said:

    For realism, Lego should attempt to make the equipment for their emergency vehicles more realistic.

    Nothing is stopping you from modding/MOCcing them the way you want. LEGO is a construction toy, not a Revell-like model kit. (Though, to be fair to the model-glue end of the building spectrum, when I was a kid, after I had built a model, if I had been inspired by some of the parts involved, I'd buy extras, mix and match with parts from extras of other kits and build MOCs with those. As far as I knew at the time, I was the only one who did this. So, even there, you don't have to be limited by the kit designers.)
  • wainwribwainwrib Member Posts: 22
    Yes - I can remember being about 5 and being given #6680, my first thought was "there's only one front seat, how unrealistic". I was so angry I put my foot through my TV set and sent Lego the bill.

    It's primarily a toy for children, designed to fuel imaginations. If the set doesn't come with it then build it!
    DoubleD
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 268
    wainwrib said:

    Yes - I can remember being about 5 and being given #6680, my first thought was "there's only one front seat, how unrealistic". I was so angry I put my foot through my TV set and sent Lego the bill.

    It's primarily a toy for children, designed to fuel imaginations. If the set doesn't come with it then build it!

    Yes, but their are some things that require specialized parts. I built the Jaws o Life using my own parts, but the spreader arms were skinny (I used antennas) and the cutter kinda short (I used a robot claw). The new stretcher I don't mind as much as I did when it first came out, as most toy ambulance stretchers are molded as one piece and folded up(even collector models are this way), and the way this one it looks as though it is folded. The old one had its flaws as the wheels wore out and eventually broke after some time.
  • chromedigichromedigi Member Posts: 344
    CCC said:

    Part of the charm of lego is that it is not that realistic - it is a fairly safe view of life.

    As a company, TLG has every right to maintain this "safe space" view of their toys. (Though, they're not really consistent on the point, but I'll try not to digress.)

    You, the consumer, can take the parts and build whatever you want.
    CCC said:

    Real ambulances do have more space but what would you do to change it? Have significantly larger builds to create one so you can get a patient, a family member and a paramedic inside the back, along with all the extra equipment? Meaning the hospital would need to be at least 6ft wide to be realistic at the same scale, and require hundreds of minifigs to populate it?

    Go for it, dude. Sounds awesome!
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 268
    edited September 2013
    cody6268 said:

    wainwrib said:

    Yes - I can remember being about 5 and being given #6680, my first thought was "there's only one front seat, how unrealistic". I was so angry I put my foot through my TV set and sent Lego the bill.

    It's primarily a toy for children, designed to fuel imaginations. If the set doesn't come with it then build it!

    Yes, but their are some things that require specialized parts. I built the Jaws o Life using my own parts, but the spreader arms were skinny (I used antennas) and the cutter kinda short (I used a robot claw). The new stretcher I don't mind as much as I did when it first came out, as most toy ambulance stretchers are molded as one piece and folded up(even collector models are this way), and the way this one it looks as though it is folded. The old one had its flaws as the wheels wore out and eventually broke after some time.
    I like 8 stud vehicles as they are much more realistic. The 7213 fire boat hauler to me was unrealistic as most boats owned by fire departments here are a small boat used primarily for rescue hauled on a trailer behind a pickup. So, I converted it into a crash tender.
  • wainwribwainwrib Member Posts: 22
    cody6268 said:



    Yes, but their are some things that require specialized parts.

    Each set would cost a fortune if they all had such specialized parts.

    Besides, it sounds like you've got a bit of a specialism in this field. The average person would think 'if a fire engine has a hose and an oxygen tank then that'll do for me'.
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 268
    wainwrib said:

    cody6268 said:



    Yes, but their are some things that require specialized parts.

    Each set would cost a fortune if they all had such specialized parts.

    Besides, it sounds like you've got a bit of a specialism in this field. The average person would think 'if a fire engine has a hose and an oxygen tank then that'll do for me'.
    Actually, most of my knowledge comes from reading books and websites about the topic.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,214
    The average person doesn't read books and websites on fire engines.
  • chromedigichromedigi Member Posts: 344
    The average person also doesn't read up on, or know one iota about train lore. But then there are the trainheads. @cody6268 has a real opportunity to contribute to the MOCcing world, based on his knowledge of this sort of arcana, given a desire to do so.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,214
    If you want Jaws of Life, they will probably be along the lines of ...

    image

    similar to their use in Hillside House.
  • AFFOL_Shellz_BellzAFFOL_Shellz_Bellz Member Posts: 1,263
    Wishing TLG would put out a very large, very realistic fire truck. Preferably a ladder truck!
  • murphquakemurphquake Member Posts: 651
    I'm a paramedic and the lack of realism in the equipment the ambulance crews have doesn't really bother me, i'm tickled that I get an EKG sticker or a little jump kit & a 28/82 dials and numbers box to save my patients
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 268
    I now realize why Lego isn't very realistic. It gives the builder more room to use his own parts to make the model as he sees fit. Plus it would cost much more. With the parts I used from my own collection to make my recent ambulance, I assume that, as a set it would cost about $30. I used the basic cab design of 4431 and 4431's paramedics and some of its parts (the 1x2 plate with Star of Life decal which I attached to an orange handle 1x2).
    chromedigi
  • piratemania7piratemania7 New EnglandMember Posts: 2,097
    CCC said:

    Why should they aim for realism? Lego minifigs are yellow - not very realistic. Their bodies are much wider than in real life too. Cars, houses, buildings, etc in lego form are made from bricks and other parts that can be easily assembled and disassembled - again not very realistic.

    Part of the charm of lego is that it is not that realistic - it is a fairly safe view of life. If you require highly detailed models, then lego is probably best avoided.

    Wait...cue the thinking chirping in background...I always thought LEGO, and the LEGO world were real? What are you saying...

  • murphquakemurphquake Member Posts: 651
    @cody6268 i'd love to see your ambulance!
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 268

    @cody6268 i'd love to see your ambulance!

    I have been planning to rebuild it for about the dozenth time. When I do finish it I will post it to this topic.

  • plasmodiumplasmodium UKMember Posts: 1,939
    It's kinda the same in all Lego themes - do real construction workers only use spades, brooms and pneumatic drills? Do they all wear orange overalls and red hats? Do people in Heartlake City really only eat croissants and ice cream? The fact is, it's a toy, and they put in the stuff that interests the kids (which are their key audience).
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 18,214

    Do people in Heartlake City really only eat croissants and ice cream?

    Yes but what Lego don't tell you is that they are bulimic, which is how they manage to keep their figures.
  • chromedigichromedigi Member Posts: 344
    No. They are healthy. It's the minifigs who have an eating disorder.
  • cody6268cody6268 Member Posts: 268

    @cody6268 i'd love to see your ambulance!

    Luckily, I had taken some images on my cellphone before I disassembled it.


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