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I'm guessing the LEGO creators are coming up with amazing stuff only to be rebuked and told this has to be a 19.99 set or a 29.99 set. I'm sure if they had their way they would all be 75 dollar sets that would have many characters and bad guys, but that just is not going to happen, especially with the licensing fees.
Otherwise I'm guessing you would have scenes in backgrounds like wrecked buildings or cars etc.
I would say the one thing I notice is the insistence on blocky and large parts that harken back to the junior-ization era of the late 90's. LEGO better watch this and keep it in check.
In any case I think that many adults are not going to be happy with whatever LEGO would do with these sets and would likely have just bought for the figs or just go and buy the figs directly regardless of how well together the set is.
People also have to remember the target audience here, kids. Kids have imaginations and can make do with what they get.
When kids start being polled by LEGO and they report all the sets are crappy, then they will implement changes. Until then? Business as usual.
That kart is really bad, the Hydra vehicle looks incredibly bad and the color choice makes it even worse. I don't even know what that Hulk set is supposed to be. I'll assume it's a lab only because it writes on the box.
I'm going to ignore the other two because they don't look that bad, but are completely uninteresting to me.
Sure, kids have imagination, but they are paying for the actual build, not for a pile of blocks to use their imagination with.
So far SDCC Minifigs represent everything this line should be about. And they are affecting what we get in the sets big time. No Green Lantern to keep him exclusive to 2011 SDCC. No black suited TDKR Batman (awesome), instead we get the inferior grey suit (lame). No iconic Black Suited Spider-man, Phoenix, Spider-woman or ASM2 figs. No wonder fans get so angry and upset every year. Epic Fail on LEGO's part.
The sets are pretty bad and comparable to Town Jr. from the 2000's in juniorazation.
If they are giving us parts to sell Minifigs, then switch the Superheroes license to a CMF model only. Then at least we can get some more "obscure" characters.
As @legodude mentioned above, a Fantasticar and X-jet seem like such obvious choices for models, it is astonishing that neither has been produced.
Might get the Doc Ock set for Otto, his comic variant looks great, and I might get the Hulk lab set too at some point. I'm hoping that the rumoured X-men sets will be better though.
Tim Drake as Robin in #6860 and #10937 (10937 seems based loosly on Arkham City were Robin was Tim Drake)
And now Damian Wayne as Robin in #76013
A Red Hood poly on [email protected] would be nice but could be a little dark.
And who is bankrolling Spider-man in #76016 Spider Helicopter Rescue? Parker has been a broke college student since 1962 ??? Maybe he took some of that cash from #76015 Doc Ock Truck Heist to pony up for the Spider-copter....hmm. Don't even get me started on that Goblin bigfig.
I understand that the draw is the figs, actually that is exactly what I wanted. A better variety of super hero figures is exactly why I would buy these sets. But I would have thought a little more research would have been done on Lego's part to get a semblance of continuity with at least the figs and the sets they comprise. Let alone the sets themselves with other sets. Considering how much material was provided to TT Games when making the Marvel Super Heroes game, I cannot presume that Lego didn't get as much or more comics and related material to use with the creation of the sets under the Marvel license.
So long story short, I will buy these for the figures but if the future sets are going to have crude and unrelated brick built "things" just thrown in they should just release the figures another way. But what I would love even more is to actually have scenes appropriate to the figures therein. Smaller sets are not that hard to accomplish if you get your mind away from "vehicles only". Vignettes anyone?
Aren't these sets still based on the cartoon or have they moved away from that?
I'll get the Captain America set, maybe Doc Ock. Otherwise I'll just Bricklink a couple of minifigures. Too many boring sets, rehashes, and characters I don't care about. Saves me money, so that's fine.
There are far too many sets which are only worth getting for the Minifigures though, no doubt about that.
It is a good question to ask, why do marvel's sets look really weak compared to DC?
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And they are unlikely to do a larger Malibu Mansion any time soon, as they already have one version out. You can also add to it.
Yes, I guess it's unlikely to happen; still, if UCS X-wing and regular X-wing can coexist, so could these. Just hoping AA becomes a yearly trend or something like that.
Me, I'm hoping for modular-level Wayne Manor and Batcave sets, ala a super-sized Jabba/Rancor. As long as it has a bust of shakespeare, I'lll be happy.
My only regret is that the Batmobile does not feature a trans-yellow 6x10x2 canopy after all (that would have been awesome), and that the batcopter has one, not two, and not in trans-clear.
Their minifigure designs are perfect (for the designs they chose), and they know it. Exactly why they can have such weak set designs because everyone wants the minifigures anyway.
I REALLY wish we got the classic comic versions of the Green Goblin and Electro, not those ugly Ultimate versions or whatever they're from.
The Spider-Helicopter Rescue looks terrible, I see no reason to buy it. I suppose the big-fig Green Goblin is good in that it shows that they'll go ahead and make other big-figs instead of just hulk, but that's it.
Doc Ock set looks okay, at least it's not another Spider vehicle.
The Electro set looks horrible, only because we don't get the classic Electro. Also, more Spider transportation! Though we do get trans arms from the looks of it.
I really like the Captain America se; what looks like the comic version of Cap, The Red Skull, and a HYDRA soldier all in a fairly cheap set that might at least have a few nicely colored parts, even if the tank thing looks plain weird.
The Hulk lab smash looks to have great minifigs but a plain AWFUL set. Taskmaster, MODOK, and Falcon look amazing. It's nice to see the purple pants Hulk but I would have rather had a new character, same with the Thor variant.
I really want to see more locations for Marvel, not vehicles. As was said above, there's plenty of locations to make that are, for the most part, iconic.
Charles Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters could be any size really, anywhere from a Malibu Mansion size up to Arkham. The Baxter Building with the Fantastic Four, I'd love to see some interiors to the Helicarrier. Any of those could be made into great sets with a nice variety of new minifigures that wouldn't really go anywhere else. They really need to make less vehicle sets at this point, enough is enough.
Given the number of super hero films being made and the program being run by both Marvel and DC I think we are going to have years of sets ahead of us, plenty of time to get a good mix of sets and figures, especial if DC build up to a full Justice League film in a few years.
As for x-men the deal with Fox that is now in place for the Simpsons could open that door and we already have the 3rd x-men film title booked in befor the second is out.
As for these sets, they are a bit on the junior side but still fun and I am sure they will be a hit with the target audience, I for one will be grabbing the lot DC and Marvel and loving them.
For years toy companies have been marketing (and selling) other characters to kids in the form of Halloween costumes, action figures, puzzles, sticker books and a boat load of other merchandise. Can we really say that these are the only characters a preteen can relate to?
How about the draw of seeing a cool superhero you didn't know existed? Example, my daughter who is 14 now didn't ever have any interest in superheros until she saw some of the action figures in the store which she thought were very "cool looking". When we got home I convinced her to watch one of the X-Men movies with me (this was a about 3 or so years back). She loved it! Her interest shot up in everyone who was included in the film and also wanted to read the comics to find out more about those who were not. So, it wasn't the movie that drew her in, that only built upon her interest from seeing those completely unknown figures in the store first. Now she is driven to watch every superhero movie that comes out and she doesn't even know who they are before she watches the show. The draw for her is not a specific character but the idea of a superhero in general.
I wish I could express this idea in a better way and share it with Lego.
I just don't picture him dashing for his keys and revving up his Batmo... Spidey-subma-copter-cars with all the other gadgeteers.
But I also get it that they've based the release on the new cartoon (i saw an episode of it, it's quirky, has the heroes as a bunch of turtle-like teens, now members of shield (retch!), and living in a technorobothouse). Robot hoooouuuuuse!!! ;oP
So yeah it's fun (in a throwaway 'what if' type way), and the odd joke made me laugh, but ultimately (no pun intended) I'm not a fan of the mangling of characters & retrofitted backstories that these mash-ups create. Characters just lose their identity, and what made any one unique, or story stand out, gets mixed into a big homogenised mush.
Not lego's fault. But I would prefer a few more classic representations (like the figs that came with the Lex Mech), that supers fans instinctively recognise, and dare I say... love?
I'll be picking up maybe a cheap set, but as the builds aren't great, and I don't really identify with the teen-agents version of the figs (or want an army of spideys), I might find my money going elsewhere.
Though I do wish it (and licensed sets in general) came with a generic civilian fig or two for the heroes to save/villains to imperil.
Given the number of spiderman sets, I'm surprised we haven't had a 'plain clothes' Peter Parker set yet, either pre-spidey (perhaps in a class/lab with a specially printed spider). Or incognito (wearing spidey-t-shirt, or in photographer mode).
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the forthcoming X-Men sets are the Blackbird, a sentinel and Xavier's School (done right... and not just a giant wall like AA). I'm sure I'm setting myself up for a letdown there, but a guy can dream.
I love the comic world but if we are honest the New 52 universe and the Marvel a Now universe (as they are called) aren't exactly a place for young kids to hang out (some of the stories are extremely challenging and not shy on the gruesome front) so the chances of Lego producing full on sets based on volumes that aren't entirely appropriate for the core of their target audience are low. That isn't to say the odd 'tread' won't be forthcoming and I am sure that more sets along the AA scale will come along but really, the next waves give us Flash, Batgirl, Manbat, Nightwing, Electro, Red Skull, Hydra, Falcon and Modoc all of which are outside the core kid audience and nod to the more 'knowledgeable' comic book fan.
Until lego perfects web slinging, then spiderman is going to have difficulty getting around without his vehicles. The white string with grips is fairly difficult to play with as a web.
This is why I'm a big fan of multiple sets that complete a model, like Jabba/Rancor. It's still not perfect (you really need 2 Jabbas and 2 Rancors to make it beefy enough), but it's pretty decent for what it is.
I agree with those that love the classic comics. I feel that Lego is best when they represent caricature of characters and the more lifelike the version, the more of the characters identity is lost. Most characters have a classic, modern (ie Ultimates), or movie/tv version. I prefer the classic first, and if there are parallels to be made then the other versions can be offered. Movie Superman (dark tones) is inferior to the classic, and likewise with Captain America and Thor. Those mentioned are really subtle differences, but blue Electro is just wrong compared to the classic green/yellow classic outfit. Ultimaye Hawkeye is bad and I hope to see a classic purple robin hood someday.
From what I have seen and read of Marvel comics, there are not too many recognizable vehicles or buildings. I don't mind that Lego adds random builds to sells sets under the Super Heroes license. I would love to see the Baxter building, Negative zone, Helicarrier, XMen Mansion, but these would be monster builds that probably are best saved and done right perhaps with this license being more established.
Until Lego does blind packs of Super Heroes, I will be happy to surrender my money for inferior Super Heroes sets because the alternative of them not making them is far worse.