Star Wars 2014

CaptAPJT

Lobot said:

Re: sales of #10240, I'd be interested to see the sales figures for it and other UCS sets. However, I'd guess that it has more to do with the large volume of current, and discontined, SW sets now available. It's become almost impossible to own them all, and it's getting to a point where sets are competing against themselves (if that makes any sense!).

I guess you mean like Bumblepants says, why would you spend $200 on an X-Wing when you can get one for $50? Or why buy the new X-Wing if you've got the old one?

We've seen numerous system scale Falcons over the years and I could well believe we'd see a re-released UCS Falcon to cover the demand we see for it. Perhaps TLG have encountered problems with the Slave 1 which was penned for the second UCS slot and re-releasing the falcon is a quick solution? Time will tell I suppose.
Who thinks we'll see a new/different radar dish on the EP7 MF?

TwoRider

So it looks like the new AT-AT is going to have all Imperial minifigures. Nice.

The officer - General Veers? Looks like him but not entirely sure if it is or just a random Imp officer.

TheLoneTensor

CaptAPJT said:

Lobot said:

Re: sales of #10240, I'd be interested to see the sales figures for it and other UCS sets. However, I'd guess that it has more to do with the large volume of current, and discontined, SW sets now available. It's become almost impossible to own them all, and it's getting to a point where sets are competing against themselves (if that makes any sense!).

I guess you mean like Bumblepants says, why would you spend $200 on an X-Wing when you can get one for $50? Or why buy the new X-Wing if you've got the old one?

We've seen numerous system scale Falcons over the years and I could well believe we'd see a re-released UCS Falcon to cover the demand we see for it. Perhaps TLG have encountered problems with the Slave 1 which was penned for the second UCS slot and re-releasing the falcon is a quick solution? Time will tell I suppose.
Who thinks we'll see a new/different radar dish on the EP7 MF?

One thing to remember is that people tend to want minifig scale in anything they get. With the X-wings, the cheaper one is MF scale and the more expensive one is a bit larger. Both look great, so the cheaper one is more acceptable for the buck (even though R2 is sideways, sigh). The current MF is smaller than minifig scale, which means that most folks would probably choose to get the UCS scale version if they had an opportunity and the means to do so.

y2josh

Am I the only one disappointed that #75032 doesn't come with a proper R2-X2? I can't fathom that droid (or Theron Nett) being released in another set any time soon. I understand why they did it how they did, but it seems a real bummer that he's just a dome (and not fully printed, at that).

binaryeye

y2josh said:

Am I the only one disappointed that #75032 doesn't come with a proper R2-X2? I can't fathom that droid (or Theron Nett) being released in another set any time soon. I understand why they did it how they did, but it seems a real bummer that he's just a dome (and not fully printed, at that).

I'm being vague in an attempt to not spoil anything: The body will be part of a forthcoming set.

cavegod

^^ have a look at the advent calender.

y2josh

cavegod said:

^^ have a look at the advent calender.

Checked it out, and that body should suffice, but it seems likely we'll have to make do with the old style 'not to the base' printing they did on the dome.

rancorbait

Some pretty cool stuff in here, including Boga! Could it be?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pDPcB7DcJQQ

Lobot

^ Interesting, and if you look really closely at the Falcon it looks like a 10179 with a modified cockpit.....! And it looks like we've got a photo of the new Sandcrawler, possibly taken from the new Visual Dictionary. If it's genuine, it's a vast improvement on 10144. It's all plates, so if the rumoured price is correct, we might get a little homestead as well.

binaryeye

Lobot said:

And it looks like we've got a photo of the new Sandcrawler, possibly taken from the new Visual Dictionary. If it's genuine, it's a vast improvement on 10144. It's all plates, so if the rumoured price is correct, we might get a little homestead as well.

Photo is here in case anyone is having trouble finding it (I don't see any watermarks; mods please delete if inappropriate).

If this really is at the rumored $299 price point, I think there almost has to be a homestead or something else to go along with it. The perspective of the photo does make it look a bit smaller than it likely is, but even so I don't think it is twice as substantial as something like #7965.

Though I know many will be disappointed it's not a UCS model, I'm glad it's a playset. This gives me hope we'll see an Aunt Beru minifigure.

I suppose we'll know everything once it's revealed in a week at Bricks Cascade.

Basta

From what I see, I think it looks good.

rancorbait

Yes, it is! notice the set number in bottom right corner?

plasmodium

Hm. Not sure I like the bigger eyes on the Jawas. It makes the eyes wrap around curve of the head more, meaning they look a little strange from a lot of angles.

That said, though, that looks like a decent set. Is it the first time that hair-piece has been done in grey (uncle Owen's)?

Hardrada

rancorbait said:

Yes, it is! notice the set number in bottom right corner?

I think the new norm will be that only the Creator Expert sets will get numbers in the 10000 to 10499 range. The rest will be numbered according to their themes. The Sea Cow and the Simpsons House are both exclusives with normal set numbers.

mathew

That picture looks legit but no way that is a $300 set. It's going to be mostly hollow inside and the heavy use of plates (a good thing) lowers the piece count. I'm guessing maybe 1700 pieces (that includes a small homestead) and closer to a $200 price point. Also I don't see robes on the Jawas which IMO cheapens the set a bit. Overall nice looking and if it's not an exclusive (i.e. ripoff pricing) I may save up for it.

cavegod

I really hope they pull the stops out for Slave-1 otherwise its a no lego year for me!

jediami65

I don't own the previous set and have been holding out from buying it looking forward to having a UCS version, this is not what i expected and I guess having believed the rumors of a UCS version I am disappointed. I was not expecting a motorized version but I did expect something in the 2500-3500 part range not 1700 even if they did use more plates. I am probably going to end up buying the previous version if the scale is the same.

I also agree with @plasmodium the Jawa eyes are freaky and take away from the figure, just does not look right hopefully this is not what went to production with.

TLG took the cheap way out and put this set out because they know it is in demand...that sucks!!! but it should be expected they are not always going to do the right thing, by collectors. $$$$$ comes first and they will sell enough of these that their decision would seem to be validated. Seen all this happen with Hasbro and I went from $2000 or more a year to barely $100 in 2013. I spent $4k + in Lego last year but can see that going down to just getting 2-3 sets with a decent UCS buy if there is one... I may start going back trough older sets and looking to get into them and than spend my money there.

monkeyhanger

Can this even be considered as our UCS offering for this May 4th? Any chance at all of something properly UCS in addition to this offering? I like it, but it's no UCS. If it's exclusive and I like the polybag then i'll probably get one, if it's not exclusive then i'll be hanging on for the Smyths/Argos/Amazon discounts.

monkeyhanger

Brickshop.nl has no pics but claims the Sandcrawler is considered a UCS, is available for Oct 1st and will be 329 Euros, which will probably put it at around £250/$350 if their stated Euros RRP is correct.

http://www.brickshop.nl/lego/lego-star-wars/lego-75059-sandcrawler-ucs.html

SapmiSatan

@plasmodium, it's in the new B-Wing set as well. Some rebel colonel, or something. Glad to see it in a set I'm actually likely to get.

As for the jawas, I'm more upset about their lack of capes than the size of their eyes! Yes, I have some small brown capes from "The Hobbit", but I still think they should have included them.

rancorbait

^ Yeah but you can add capes any time, but their eyes are permanent.

maniac

Obviously I will reserve full judgement until a proper announcement but I'm not impressed from that picture. The studs on the side is what I find so unimpressive.

vitreolum

The many studs on the side is what ruins it for me as well, I hope that's not the final set/actual set. If it is, I'm not postponing getting the old one anymore.

legomatt

Jawas should have capes: Absolutely.

We can scratch around and supply them, I guess, but given the premium asking price I don't feel we should have to. If it was a cheap set, sure, I don't mind adding finishing touches to cheap sets - i almost expect to, as I imagine sacrifices have to be made to meet low price points - but with premium priced sets I expect those little details to be included as part of the price.

However, my personal biggest gripe (from what I can see) is the all-over use of plates makes the whole thing look cheaply constructed, and suggests (apart from the little cockpit) it might prove to be one big empty shell with little by way of internal 'guts'.
I don't mind some side plating, but it just looks a bit too 'flimsy' for such a large heavy-duty vehicle. UNLESS of course they've cut these corners/made savings using this technique in order to add value elsewhere in the build - but if so, where? I can't see much to justify the big price tag. I'm hoping for some entertaining inner-chamber sections to fully exploit the volume of space the vehicle contains, but I can't see an awful lot going on here at the moment.

Hopefully, as more images surface we'll see there is a lot more going on, but initially i'm a little bit disappointed, but hoping there's more yet to be revealed.

:o)

richo

Not sure what to think. I actually like it, but take the point all over plates are not to everybody's taste. The internet seems to be going in to overdrive on a new UCS Falcon coming. That secondary market is going to take a real shoeing if it's true.

legomatt

^ I probably sounded a bit down on the plates, more than I really am. I'm actually more on the fence about those. I've realised it's not the plates that bother me so much as the sheer number of studs on display, which spoils the aesthetics of the vehicle.

I may need to invest in some brown/orange/tan tiles, to flatten out some of the bobble-effect.

CapnRex101

I like the model, but at the prices which have been rumoured, it looks very expensive, so I would presume that another model is included. Hopefully a Lars Homestead.

The plates which make up the hull look alright to me, and I prefer them to the bricks of the older version. My overall opinion really depends on the inside however, and from what we can see in this photo, it looks rather ugly (but for the cockpit) which is a real shame.

Legoboy

richo said:

The internet seems to be going in to overdrive on a new UCS Falcon coming. That secondary market is going to take a real shoeing if it's true.

Still pinning your hopes on dreams I see. ;-)

Diggydoes

Totally dissapointed by the "plates-look"but one other thing looks even worse,those trans-yellow tiles(windows)look so stupid or am i the only one thinking this? I just pray that it will incl.a Banta or something uber-awesome!!!

cavegod

What interests me is the october 1st release date for it

brickupdate

Whenever I search completed eBay auctions and sort from highest to low, it is astounding how quickly the UCS Falcon begins popping up. In other words: people seem to be paying WAY MORE for it than plenty of the original carded Kenner action figures and playsets from the 1970s. Regardless of whether LEGO re-releases the UCS Falcon, this just seems like an odd bubble that isn't really sustainable in the long-term. Or, maybe I am wrong, and the price will escalate until banks offer "UCS Falcon Mortgages."

y2josh

legomatt said:

Jawas should have capes: Absolutely.

On the one hand, Jawas don't wear capes. On the other hand, the LEGO Jawas look absolutely ridiculous without them. I feel similarly about the terrible version of Obi-Wan that comes with the new Cantina (as well as the ranger version of Aragorn). He just doesn't look right with the robe printed on the figure, no matter how much more technically accurate that may be.

richo

Jawas don't wear cakes, they don't need them.

@legoboy, I am beginning to think its true on the UCS Falcon. It's coming back, I can taste it,

Basta

As I said it looks good to me, although I agree it's a little disappointing it's not a full blown 3000+ piece UCS set.

From my count, it looks to be about 60 studs long and 30 high, not sure how that compares to the last one?

Also on the very left of the picture there is a a small part of a grey box or maybe a "pointy thing" a bit like what sits outside the Lars Homestead, maybe.

y2josh

^^Really, only highly specialized strippers wear cakes, so I'm inclined to agree with your assertion that 'cakes as attire' are absolutely not needed in LEGO form.

:D

Legoboy

@Richo, just to bring you back to reality, consider this. The so-called UCS Falcon will be the same to us once revealed as this 'UCS' Sandcrawler is to us now. Disappointed? ;-) Seems to be going very much that way at the moment.

Basta

cavegod said:

What interests me is the october 1st release date for it

Looks like the top of an "M" (which I assume is for May) in the stats box down the bottom right of the picture?

Lobot

^ I think that the capes have

cavegod said:

What interests me is the october 1st release date for it

Perhaps it will be a S@H exclusive for a few months, and then available on wider release (like the UCS R2-D2 and UCS X-wing)..... I actually quite like it, but it will be interesting to see what the eventual RRP is.

richo

Ow no I said cakes. lol!

richo said:

Jawas don't wear cakes, they don't need them.

@legoboy, I am beginning to think its true on the UCS Falcon. It's coming back, I can taste it,

mathew

It sort of cracks me up when people complain about studs on Lego. Well it's Lego and studs kind of go with the territory. With that said, if Lego prices the above pictured set at $350 then there damn well should be tiles covering up those unsightly studs.

Wil348

While a new UCS Falcon would be nice, I'm scared about what the price would be...

joel4motion

Wil348 said:

While a new UCS Falcon would be nice, I'm scared about what the price would be...

£400/$500 and ill bite, any more and ill probably still bite it just won't taste as good!

Vortex

Yes...unsightly chicken pox stud covered all over... Looks unfinished ,..
2- I just cannot cannot get over this laziness ....trans yellow tiles just stuck outside over the exterior for windows??? Cheap cheap cheap ... This set better make it up in a big unseen way to sell well

Legoboy

mathew said:

It sort of cracks me up when people complain about studs on Lego. Well it's Lego and studs kind of go with the territory.

For me, studs are only there to fix LEGO bricks together. Sticking a brick on top of another, like in the traditional sense, provides a smooth surface to its sides. That's what I'd hoped for this - smooth sides. The odd stud on its side for effect or texture is acceptable, but not this.

rancorbait

legomatt said:

^ I probably sounded a bit down on the plates, more than I really am. I'm actually more on the fence about those. I've realised it's not the plates that bother me so much as the sheer number of studs on display, which spoils the aesthetics of the vehicle.

I may need to invest in some brown/orange/tan tiles, to flatten out some of the bobble-effect.

Now that you mention it I think that's what is slightly bothering me too, the overall shape of the sandcrawler is captured quite well, but all those studs make it seem somewhat unfinished. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against studs, but they should stay on top if anywhere in my opinion.

Legoboy

y2josh said:

legomatt said:

Jawas should have capes: Absolutely.

On the one hand, Jawas don't wear capes. On the other hand, the LEGO Jawas look absolutely ridiculous without them. I feel similarly about the terrible version of Obi-Wan that comes with the new Cantina (as well as the ranger version of Aragorn). He just doesn't look right with the robe printed on the figure, no matter how much more technically accurate that may be.

I wonder if LEGO are trying to get away from the use fabrics. A ludicrous idea, yes, but seems they didn't want to use it for Jabba's latest Sail Barge, it's now missing from the Jawa's and Obi's robes. Lol, will be interesting to see what Batman is dressed in for his next reincarnation.

mathew

I would argue that stacked bricks gives the impression for lack of a better term 'blockyness'. Compare the first Lego Sandcrawler: To me it looks more like a roving building and not a vehicle. The new version (assuming that this is the final version) is more realistic. Honestly, unless it's priced at $150 and it's a non-exclusive I won't be buying.

jediami65

Here are some images of toy and movie Sandcrawler the surface should fairly smooth except for a few area here and there. The older set I think is is a better looking set and if you look at the Cuusoo version that is the more accurate off all.

FollowsClosely

The crawler looks as it has an interior. My first impression is that the picture is a huge letdown. The studdy look takes away more than I care for. The shape does not look right either. And it's just too small. Most likely a pass for me.

rancorbait

Just looking at the set makes you wonder if it is actually going to be $300, but if it is, surely there will be Power functions included? Part of me is hoping that the rumored price is wrong, but the other part of me is hoping that perhaps the price is right and there are indeed Power functions and a Lars homestead included. But I will wait for official images before judging to much!