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4x4 Crawler (41999)

ndennden Member Posts: 18
edited August 2013 in Collecting
I just finished my 41999 set. The crawler is awesome and it's quite slow imo. Does anyone have try out make it faster (switching some gears? maybe?)

I've noticed the License Plate tile has a very unique ID of 20000.
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  • FollowsCloselyFollowsClosely Member Posts: 931
    Need to see a picture of that plate!
    Cam_n_Stu
  • SchwallexSchwallex Member Posts: 121
    edited August 2013
    I can offer free rain to go with your parade: every ID is equally unique. In fact that's what unique really means in the first place, one of a kind.

    I haven't built mine yet, so can't comment on the speed, but I've heard people say the exact opposite thing, that the 41999 is actually faster than the 9398. I have no idea who's been smoking how much of what, but I can vow to report back with my results some day.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited August 2013
    ^Theoretically I couldn't agree more, but esoterically, something like # 1 or # 20000 is certainly going to be more desirable than something like # 13416.

    Of course, wouldn't it be awesome if there was a printing screwup at the factory, and all the "limited editions" had license plate # 20000? :)
  • ndennden Member Posts: 18

    Need to see a picture of that plate!

    I guess my set is # 18799.
  • ndennden Member Posts: 18
    Schwallex said:

    I can offer free rain to go with your parade: every ID is equally unique. In fact that's what unique really means in the first place, one of a kind.

    I haven't built mine yet, so can't comment on the speed, but I've heard people say the exact opposite thing, that the 41999 is actually faster than the 9398. I have no idea who's been smoking how much of what, but I can vow to report back with my results some day.

    I checked some youtube video, the 9398 is faster. I may use some bad batteries? I'm using fully charged Eneloop batteries. I don't know.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited August 2013
    Heh, missed it by only 1201 :)
  • ndennden Member Posts: 18
    NO
    tensor said:

    Heh, missed it by only 1201 :)

    I meant the set ID. I guess there are only 20000 made and every set has each set ID printed on the plate tile.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited August 2013
    I'm sorry, is there a joke here or something?

    From what we have been told (and have known for a bit):
    1) The set # is #41999
    2) Only 20000 were made
    3) Each box has within it, a license plate printed with a unique # from 1-20000
    4) Yours is # 18799

    What'd I miss?
    Dare_Wreck
  • nike1664nike1664 Member Posts: 13
    Not holding out too much hope for my back-ordered one if are up to (at least) 18799.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,023
    ^ They don't ship them sequentially from Billund.
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    It would make sense that the 9398 would be a tad bit faster considering it has less weight due to part count including an extra motor... I would also expect the 41999 batteries to drain a little faster considering it has the extra functions like lights...
  • princedravenprincedraven Essex, UKMember Posts: 3,768
    Whilst we are somewhat on the subject, does anyone know what the fastest (out of box) Lego remote control car is??
  • CapnRex101CapnRex101 United KingdomAdministrator Posts: 2,256
    @princedraven - I would have thought probably #8675 from 2006 in the Racers theme. I bought it at the time (but have long since got rid of it) and it was very quick, faster than any I have seen recently at least.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    ^^^ ive noticed that lights on trains appear to take the edge of a trains speed too, although I could be imagining it.
  • princedravenprincedraven Essex, UKMember Posts: 3,768

    @princedraven - I would have thought probably #8675 from 2006 in the Racers theme. I bought it at the time (but have long since got rid of it) and it was very quick, faster than any I have seen recently at least.

    Thanks, will see if I can find one cheap :-)
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    edited August 2013
    ^I wouldn't bother. I used to buy and sell 8675 and 8369s. The controllers are very fragile, the batteries in the reciever never hold a charge and the chargers always break. There is no actual lego, just panels and pins.

    Is 42003 an RC car?

  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    edited August 2013
    JamesJT said:

    ^I wouldn't bother. I used to buy and sell 8675 and 8369s. The controllers are very fragile, the batteries in the reciever never hold a charge and the chargers always break. There is no actual lego, just panels and pins.

    Is 42003 an RC car?

    That 42003 set is still somewhat of a mystery...
  • maquesmaques HungaryMember Posts: 96
    edited August 2013
    Uhm, I wonder, if it is limited and only 20.000 made, was it really sold out on the first day?
    If so, then what will be in/on the sets from the "expected ship date 11 sep 2013" - was august 22 some days ago... (btw, note the "nine-eleven")

    So will the plates be like:
    "28345 out of 20000 40000"? or like: "the new batch" or what?
    Also, will the box will be updated, like "2nd x 20.000" or "not-so limited edition"?
  • ColoradoBricksColoradoBricks Denver, CO, USAMember Posts: 1,640
    It has been confirmed in another thread that the back order are part of the 20K.

    However, I think if they make more, they will drop the limited edition and unique plate, all plates would have a 41999 sticker.
  • Ma1234Ma1234 Member Posts: 692

    It has been confirmed in another thread that the back order are part of the 20K.

    However, I think if they make more, they will drop the limited edition and unique plate, all plates would have a 41999 sticker.

    Making more would mean LEGO would be breaking advertising laws (at least in the United States), and could potentially have to buy back all sets that are sold (if people got angry enough).

    This is 20,000 and done.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Ma1234 said:

    Making more would mean LEGO would be breaking advertising laws (at least in the United States), and could potentially have to buy back all sets that are sold (if people got angry enough).

    This is 20,000 and done.

    That may or may not be true, but someone would have to actually sue and take action.

    The truth is, who would care that much? Who is going to bring a lawsuit over a $200 item?
  • nkx1nkx1 Member Posts: 719
    edited August 2013
    @Ma1234: Exactly what law would they be breaking? Just because something seems like it might be illegal doesn't mean it is. I'm not definitively asserting that Lego would not be breaking any laws, I'm just questioning what law would apply, if any.

    To add to what LFT stated above, I sort of doubt any attorney would waste their time with this (at least any attorney that likes to be paid for working). Further, you would have to demonstrate that you incurred damages as a result of Lego "lying" to you. Good luck proving that...

    In my opinion, the greatest loss Lego could experience if they produce more than 20k of this set is future sales. If people know Lego will produce more than they say they will for a limited edition set, people probably wouldn't rush out and buy that set like they did with 41999. That's probably the principal incentive for Lego to keep their word.
  • Gavin83Gavin83 Member Posts: 251

    Ma1234 said:

    Making more would mean LEGO would be breaking advertising laws (at least in the United States), and could potentially have to buy back all sets that are sold (if people got angry enough).

    This is 20,000 and done.

    That may or may not be true, but someone would have to actually sue and take action.

    The truth is, who would care that much? Who is going to bring a lawsuit over a $200 item?
    It would be breaking the law in the UK as well.

    I'd take them to court over this if they refused to refund. We have the small claims court in the UK, I'm not sure if you have such a system in the US but it make it extremely cheap and easy to bring legal action over such matters. I'd do it out of principle.

    I'd honestly be surprised if they produced more than the 20k though so I doubt it would come to this.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ You may well be right, and they may well lose the $200.

    But lets see here, while you might sue, and 50 other people might sue... how much is earned by selling 80K more copies of the set vs. having to refund 50 people?

    Just saying...
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    BTW, who is to say they didn't release 20K in the USA, 20K in Europe, 20K in Asia, etc?

    Just because shop.lego.com says 20K doesn't mean it is the same 20K as shop.lego.co.uk

    Not saying they did that, just pointing out a thought...
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    What if they just bring out the set in a regular style box with no printed plate numbers..? If they change the product enough from the original's "exclusiveness", they really wouldn't be breaking any rules...

    But they would be foolish to continue to sell a product that directly conflicts with one of their other products in the 9398, especially when it has more parts(including a motor) for the same price...

    I would rather see Lego release an upgrade kit for like $50 that has all of the parts to upgrade the standard 9398 to the 41999...
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    i would rather see lego just stop at 20,000. it was they said they would do, its since what they said is happening and it means no one needs to get lawyers involved. Anything else just gets messy.
    vitreolum
  • XefanXefan Member Posts: 1,149
    @nkx1 It would be classed as bait and switch because they'd be advertising the product one way and then changing that after the sale. This is well established as being an illegal sales tactic and there have been plenty of cases confirming this in both the US and Europe. $200 is a plenty large enough figure for some people to take this to court if it became an issue.

    But that's precisely why I don't think TLG would allow it to become an issue.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 17,023
    They can easily change the colour to red or yellow or black and have different stickers then it is a completely different version to the limited edition one.
  • roxioroxio UKMember Posts: 1,326
    ^ and would have a different set number than 41999 - this is what I think they will do
  • CoolsplashCoolsplash Member Posts: 935
    Agree with @CCC and @roxio on this :)
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    roxio said:

    ^ and would have a different set number than 41999 - this is what I think they will do

    They could make it black, orange and white and call it #9398.

    Yellowcastle
  • princedravenprincedraven Essex, UKMember Posts: 3,768
    I believe they will stick with the 20,000 and that will be it.
    Creating a second lot of 'limited edition' would not work as everyone would see through it and I would have thought they were keen not to completely kill the sales for #9398.

    So I would guess all this kerfuffle will be for nothing...
    Legoboycaperberry
  • 19741974 Member Posts: 138
    They could just do what they did with Santa Fe
  • chertikchertik Member Posts: 43
    I just opened the box of my crawler, the license plate says 19996 out of 20000. So close.. :P
    FollowsCloselyLegoboyDiggydoescaperberryShpadoinkleBrickarmor
  • iBartiBart Member Posts: 121
    chertik said:

    I just opened the box of my crawler, the license plate says 19996 out of 20000. So close.. :P

    Wow, you're so lucky. Cool number. :D Congrats!

  • chertikchertik Member Posts: 43
    iBart said:


    Wow, you're so lucky. Cool number. :D Congrats!

    Thanks! I bought it in Bellevue, WA Lego store. I'm wondering if anyone else bought it from the same store and opened theirs. If all the boxes in this store came form the same batch there is a chance it could be a 20000 out of 20000 :)
  • ColoradoBricksColoradoBricks Denver, CO, USAMember Posts: 1,640
    I have 15101 from my US [email protected] order, a buddy of mine had 038xx also from his [email protected] order
  • iBartiBart Member Posts: 121
    chertik said:

    iBart said:


    Wow, you're so lucky. Cool number. :D Congrats!

    Thanks! I bought it in Bellevue, WA Lego store. I'm wondering if anyone else bought it from the same store and opened theirs. If all the boxes in this store came form the same batch there is a chance it could be a 20000 out of 20000 :)
    As far as I know - highly unlikely. I guess all of the tiles was printed and mixed together so there is a lottery, and buying two BOSSes at once you can get 00001 and 20000 if youre'lucky. :P
  • BastaBasta Australia Member Posts: 1,259
    edited August 2013
    If it is anything like other collectables TLG would have keept 00001/20000 and maybe 2000/20000. I know in the coin collecting world the nuber 8 can bring a premium, this is because its a luck/prosperous number in Chinese culture. Not really sure if this would transfer over to the Lego world but if it did 08888/20000 would be popular. Saying that any repeater number would be cool and of course 10000/20000.
  • sidersddsidersdd USAMember Posts: 2,432
    Or does 00001/20000 go to the designer who won the contest?
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    edited August 2013
    sidersdd said:

    Or does 00001/20000 go to the designer who won the contest?

    No, he said in a thread at Eurobricks that he didn't get the 00001.. You would think that he would have though...

  • Gavin83Gavin83 Member Posts: 251
    I'd be surprised if TLG hadn't kept 00001 for themselves. It's probably on a shelf somewhere at head office.
  • CrowkillersCrowkillers Member Posts: 757
    Gavin83 said:

    I'd be surprised if TLG hadn't kept 00001 for themselves. It's probably on a shelf somewhere at head office.

    Probably in their vault...

  • caperberrycaperberry LondonMember Posts: 2,226
    On the first of this year's Inside Tours, it was noted by a certain Brickset member that the pile of Villy Thomsens given out began their numbering at 002! In the case of LIT exclusives maybe 001 always goes to Kjeld but I agree that generally sets numbered number one may likely go to one of tlg's storage facilities. Perhaps not the famous 'Vault' as sets here get handled a lot. Perhaps instead they're stored with the sets which will get displayed in the new Lego House in 2016. that would be cool
    Legoboy
  • zaxter2001zaxter2001 Member Posts: 35
    edited August 2013
    I just noticed this morning when checking my order of this, clicking on the set link http://shop.lego.com/en-US/4x4-Crawler-Exclusive-Edition-41999 the error "page can not be found" shows up for the US store and when checking the UK store it is listed as sold out! If so, I'm really glad I ordered mine when I did.
  • Rups007Rups007 Member Posts: 20
    I picked up 1 today from the MK store, she told me that they had about 14 as of this morning but they all sold within an hour.
  • BooTheMightyHamsterBooTheMightyHamster Northern edge of London, just before the dragons...Member Posts: 1,264
    All this talk of number plates has made me go and open the box, even though I won't be building it for a while.

    06662 for me!
    cheshirecatYellowcastle
  • ColoradoBricksColoradoBricks Denver, CO, USAMember Posts: 1,640
    would be interesting to have a map of plate numbers, a bit like the Mr Gold registration map.
    CapnRex101BooTheMightyHamsterYellowcastleAdzbadboy
  • JamesJTJamesJT Member Posts: 440
    For those that missed #41999 but have #9398 and a pile of spares form other sets, the instructions for #41999 are available on the lego website.

    Almost all the parts are available through [email protected] Bricks & Pieces too.
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