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  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    McDonald's CEO made nearly $9 million last year.

    Until the (still widening) gap between CEO and the rest of us plebes is dealt with, the minimum wage problem will only get worse.
  • Gavin83Gavin83 Member Posts: 251
    My girlfriend almost got a job at the UK Lego HQ about a year ago. Despite how keen I obviously was she decided against it in the end. Reason being that the salary offered was considerably lower than the same job in a different company. Lego is one of those companies that are considered 'fun' to work for and the downside of this is less money at the end of the month. So while other employees are in no way earning minimum wage they are certainly earning less than an industry equal.

    Same goes for Google. Great company to work for but the pay is peanuts.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,711
    edited June 2013
    I get that CEOs are important to companies (or should be) and should be capable of directing a company to profitability, but whenever I see some dumb#$% CEO run a company into the ground AND get 15 mil for their 'awesome' job, I cringe.
    These guys do not do near enough work IMO to justify such outrage numbers, even if a company is doing well.
    Why do I say this? How much does the CEO REALLY do, compared to the employees doing all of the work implementing what the CEO wants.
    This also drives me nuts when a company says no bonuses and goes well out of its way to stop people from getting bonuses only to see the board all give themselves 100s of thousands, or million, dollar bonuses to sit on their butts and tell others what to do.

    Again I get that you should be rewarded for work and doing a good job, I do not think that everyone should make the amount, but there has to be a limit when a CEO that sits their managing data, gets a heck of a lot more than a Cop, or Firefighter, who save lives and put theirs on the line EVERYDAY.
  • rchaddrchadd Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013
    brickitup sounds like a leftest liberal who wants a socialist utopia - they wont be happy until all weath is "re-distributed equally" (of course that wont apply to those in charge and giving the orders). unfortunately not all individuals are equal and have ability to earn high salarys that is a fact of life and not all socially valuable JOBS pay high wages (eg. nurses police etc ...not Lego shop assistants!)

    plus it sounds a bit stupid coming in here and then putting down "adults who like to play with childrens toy" - actually i primarilly invest - maybe thats what these "poorly paid lego employees" should be stocking up with EOL lines at cut rates (i guess they get staff discount?) to subsudize their minimum wage jobs.

    i have no concern for other peopleS career choices thats upto them...at will.

  • Gavin83Gavin83 Member Posts: 251


    This also drives me nuts when a company says no bonuses and goes well out of its way to stop people from getting bonuses only to see the board all give themselves 100s of thousands, or million, dollar bonuses to sit on their butts and tell others what to do.

    I agree with you fully on this. I also think it's disgusting when a company board makes the decision to cut wages or make staff redundant but give themselves a massive pay rise. This has been quite common recently.

    I think there should be some sort of law to say a company policy has to extend throughout the workforce and individuals can't be singled out. So if they make the decision not to award bonuses/pay rises then by law they have to suffer the same restrictions themselves.


    Again I get that you should be rewarded for work and doing a good job, I do not think that everyone should make the amount, but there has to be a limit when a CEO that sits their managing data, gets a heck of a lot more than a Cop, or Firefighter, who save lives and put theirs on the line EVERYDAY.

    Are you suggesting a person working in the emergency services should earn more than a CEO?
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    ^I imagine he is. If that is the case, a police officer or firefighter should make more than the president of the United States or more than Bill Gates, who probably don't put their lives on the line everyday.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 9,711
    edited June 2013
    Gavin83 said:



    Again I get that you should be rewarded for work and doing a good job, I do not think that everyone should make the amount, but there has to be a limit when a CEO that sits their managing data, gets a heck of a lot more than a Cop, or Firefighter, who save lives and put theirs on the line EVERYDAY.

    Are you suggesting a person working in the emergency services should earn more than a CEO?
    I get that people who do certain jobs should be making more, and I do not subscribe to everyone making the same salary in the world. I get being rewarded for doing a good job helps make workers work harder, and that a CEO is a Spokesperson for the company and they instill confidence in a company. etc etc. so they should be compensated for that
    However when I see cops and firefighters making a fraction that what CEOs typically get paid for saving lives and putting their lives on the line every day, it makes you think (or should). Especially when I do not see cops or firefighters getting CEO level bonuses. If you have a bad day as a CEO the worse that occurs is you get fired and you have to rely on your golden parachute. If you are a cop or firefighter and have a bad day, you could die or someone else could die.

    Same can be argued for pay differences of those making a living hitting a ball with a stick, bouncing a ball, or catching one, compared to people that put their lives on the line every day.
    Capitalism is fine, as long as it does not get out of hand, and it really has gotten out of hand IMO.
    And I think Bill Gates has so much money he is not even working, he is earning interest. Think about that, the money this man earns on interest alone probably is far greater than most people salaries for their lifetime. As for the president, a US President does make decisions that affect many lives, sometimes globally.
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    ^Yes he does, the question is; has his decisions affected people in a positive way or a negative way? Also, has he destroyed more lives than he has saved? I don't want to get political, so I will leave it there.

    Without rehashing everything that has been said, the question still remains. Should a Lego sales clerk make more than $8.00 an hour and how much should he/she make?
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    @madforLEGO. The sports question has been discussed before many times. Recently, on the radio, the subject came up and the consensus was that people who play professional sports get paid mega bucks because the public dictates what that player is worth. If that player packs in the fans and makes the owner(s) money, then they should be paid accordingly. No fans = No Big Contracts.
  • rchaddrchadd Member Posts: 187
    i think this thread should deleted.

    "This is actually my first post. I long have visited Brickset and the Forums, but never had anything to say."

    he is not an active participant and has simply tried to make divisive politically motivated issue that really could be appied to any company operating in a free-market economy.

    whats the alternative? a centrally planned economy were the government decides on everyones pay rates and how much everything costs?! that really worked in russia.

    there are far more exploited workers around the world.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    From the few times I've been in a Lego store it appears that the staff are trained on being up-beat and friendly over being knowledgeable. Being up-beat and friendly is more of a personality type than expertise. Again, how much you earn should be at least based on expertise, experience etc. and not on general personality (though that is very important).
  • jasorjasor United StatesMember Posts: 839
    If there were a Lego store in my area, I'd take $8 per hour part time to do it, turn around, and spend it right there in the store. Problem solved.
  • samiam391samiam391 A Log Cabin in KY, United StatesMember Posts: 4,328
    edited June 2013
    I don't see the point in this thread either.

    This is a LEGO forum, and the only tie in to LEGO here is the fact that the employee and company in question are LEGO. Otherwise, everything else pertains towards politics, wages, etc. (non-LEGO topics).

    I think we've seen how quick the community can become wrapped in political topics, and how they always end up in petty arguments.

    Thanks for the post OP, and welcome aboard to Brickset forums, but I don't see the point in this thread.

    Discussing it on a forum devoted to LEGO products/mocs/etc. isn't going to change anything. If you are truly passionate about this issue, write LEGO or even take it up with your state's representative/politician.

    Just my $.02.

    Edit: Looks like new comments don't even refresh the topic to the top of the page. Well done mods... a nice way of letting this thread die out peacefully :o)
    dougts
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 0 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 11,405
    ^Where did your $0.02 go? Did you give the Lego employee a raise?

    Yeah, I don't really see the point of the thread either. First off, it really isn't about Lego per se and second, every country is different and have different economic structures and politics. This can go on and on, but it accomplishes nothing.
  • dougtsdougts Oregon, USAMember Posts: 4,129
    This is the longest standing seriously off topic thread I've ever seen on these forums. The tie to LEGO is as tenuous as it gets.
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