Pirates of the Caribbean Battle Pack

yys4u

Found this on classicpirates so I don't wanna steal the credit hah, but check it out
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?s=3d6d043673bc944091e0bfd4fb1e9ef7&showtopic=57286
looks pretty cool except I don't really have a need for half those figures. I wouldn't mind the red coat or the pirate in the middle though.

andhe

As the chaps are saying on that forum, do you think this is legit? Or could be a very good forgery, hard to tell without seeing the figs on their own. Seems odd to release a bunch of figures (3 of which are straight out of the captain's cabin set) from other sets.

drdavewatford

As I said on the Eurobricks forum, I'm pretty sure these are legit - the format and set number are consistent with the Alien Conquest Battle Pack I bought this weekend.

cloud0

Yes they are legit, we here in Singapore have gotten the stocks. Its weird how some items come out way ahead of time and yet we do not have the pet shop locally yet!

legomatt

Aaw, that's a rather disappointing (approaching awful) selection for a battlepack (you get a Jack in every set, so nobody is going to be short of him, and the two zombies are also both available in the cheapest set - captains cabin).

I was imagining what i would put in a PotC battlepack a few weeks ago, and came up with army builders, such as:

Red tunic soldier, Blue tunic soldier, Cannibal, Pirate, Civilian,

You could buy several of this one, and swap heads/weapons to make plenty of different soldiers. While the civilian and pirate would be generic enough to be interchangeable with them too. (tri-corn hat, black ponytail etc). The cannibal would have dual-sided head (if possible) - or one of the pirate/civilians would have dark skin too.

On BP's, is anyone else finding the ready-built figs in these new BP's a bit annoying - like they've robbed us of the joy of building the figs up first.

madforLEGO

^ I'm torn...
As legomatt says it has Jack...AGAIN (which makes sense if someone just wants the figures but not the sets).
BUT I have a feeling, based on previous battlepacks, that there will be a limited run so they may be collectible....

war44lock

I think thats pathetic to be honest, just my opinion but thats the lamest battle pack I've seen since the assassin droid pack. dumb. Lazy. Boring. Just my opinion.

yys4u

Yea you guys are right actually haha. I only really like the red coat and pirate. The rest is horrible. In fact the only battle pack I've bought in years is the Kingdom's Dragon Knight battle pack (and was very disappointing in the quality)

Is that pirate in any other set or is he unique? I only know of the coach driver in set 4193, the cook in the QAR and then the pirate in set 4194.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the pirate in the battle pack is unique, maybe that's what TLG is banking on?

myoulton

I'm a bit disappointed with the figure selection and the design of the battlepack itself. I liked the thought that had gone into recent battlepacks like the Kingdoms sets and Pharaoh's Quest with the packs being shaped this seems like a massive step backwards.

prof1515

Is that pirate in any other set or is he unique? I only know of the coach driver in set 4193, the cook in the QAR and then the pirate in set 4194.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the pirate in the battle pack is unique, maybe that's what TLG is banking on?

You're wrong. It's Scrum from Whitecap Bay.

When in doubt, check your sources. When not in doubt, check them all the same. :-)

http://www.brickset.com/minifigs/gallery/?theme=PotC

Ypres

Well isn't that set just another "Chinese Figure" battlepack? I'm not really interested in lesser quality minifigs unless we're talking about the old collectible minifigures. Aside from their lesser quality, I'd also have to take a crack at Lego's selection. Sorry, but there's no why I'm having more Jack Sparrows than Harry Potters!!! What the heck is with only one British Soldier... Lego kinda deserves to laughed at over that horribly stupid choice. The name "Battle Pack" is transferible with "Army Builder" set, so one would only guess the minifig selection to be much better than this.

Well lucky for me I don't think I'll run into it in stores anyway. Though I'd love the chance to insult the set in person... maybe freak a few kids out while I'm there! LOL!

legomatt

"I blow my nose at you , you silly so-called battle pack. Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"

yys4u

Yea it reminds me of the new pirates line with their battle pack. That one was pretty bad too.

StuBoy

Its a very strange minifig selection. Its like having Luke Skywalker in a Star Wars battlepack. Not very good for building a Redcoat army.

Yellowcastle

^^ I loved the Pirates battlepack! I bought 3 after they went on sale. :o)

StuBoy

^ Trouble is, its got that same soldier with the goatee that's in 2 other small Pirates sets! Hopeless for building up a variety of soldiers.

prof1515

Your problem lies in your interpretation of the purpose of these sets. They're "battle packs", not "army building packs". The focus is on an option for those who want a few more figures, such as kids who play with them like action figurs and parents on a budget, not adults who want huge numbers.

Ypres

Well Geeez, the whole idea of "Battle" is the actual "fighting". When we think of that we have soldiers then... oh no, where does this "army" thing come from!? Sorry, but the idea seems fairly obvious to me that battle packs serve the purpose to build minifig counts cheaply. Hence one could easily buy multiples given the price ratio per minifig. So one could then only expect to recieve minifigs worth recieving doubles of like knights, pirates, soldiers, etc. Sets aren't made under the assumption that the average consumer will buy multiples, these however are built (usually) to reflect differently. As such, battle packs are gleefully made by Lego for these "adult-type" (in pattern) buyers

I think for parents not spending lots of money, aside from companies not even bothering with them, we have tons of impulse classifications going already.

redwolf1

I have always thought it strange Lego dont do the basic figures as single figures on line for those people wishing to build armies. Selling the figures and weapons individually would please a lot of collectors im certain.

prof1515

Well Geeez, the whole idea of "Battle" is the actual "fighting". When we think of that we have soldiers then...oh no, where does this "army" thing come from!?

Your first sentence is fine but then the second is where you deviate from a logical argument. Armies are not necessary for fighting or for a battle. Lego has produced a set of figures that can be used to play battles. Does a set of five figures serve this purpose? Yes. Does it have to be only the generic footsoldiers and not others? No.

...battle packs serve the purpose to build minifig counts cheaply. Hence one could easily buy multiples given the price ratio per minifig.

Which is another thing that the battle pack can do. It does not, however, serve as the only function of them.

So one could then only expect to recieve minifigs worth recieving doubles of like knights, pirates, soldiers, etc.

While one could buy multiples, one need not do so. The pack serves both causes. Those who wish to amass large armies of a single figure have to take the rest because otherwise the pack only serves the army builders and not those who purchase just one.

Sets aren't made under the assumption that the average consumer will buy multiples, these however are built (usually) to reflect differently.

As I recall the pirate pack had an admiral and a pirate captain in it. How many admirals do you suppose you need? And pirate captains? Four figures, only two of which are "army builders". It certainly doesn't seem like it was built under the assumption that the consumer would buy multiples. Instead, it appears to be a way for kids to get some figures otherwise found in sets costing $50 or more only for a much more reasonable price. They can integrate them with whatever pieces or sets their imagination can conceive regardless of whether or not they choose to buy multiples and build an army. In other words, it's a battle pack, not an army-building pack.

yys4u

SO not sure where this discussion went, I assume most agree this set is for real now, I saw it at the San Diego Comic Con for sale, so its official. Does anyone have it? I was wondering what the quality of it was? I want to buy Scrum from bricklink but not sure if I'll get the one from the box set or battle pack, or if there is any difference? I would assume that it would be lower quality like that of battle packs in the past, however I recently got the Voodoo Jack promo figure and was surprised to see it be regular good quality plastic! (marking on neck, no arm pit stamp, etc.) So I'm hoping maybe the POTC battle pack will be the same...

bmwlego

Perhaps there are people out there that LEGO are targeting with this item that aren't in to LEGO. These items can be seen as ways to get people bck in to LEGO or ways to get $$$ from PoTC fans who want a Jack figure and no LEGO bricks.

rocao

Your problem lies in your interpretation of the purpose of these sets. They're "battle packs", not "army building packs".

It should be noted that the official product description for all the current Star Wars battle packs mention "build[ing] up" an army, or troops, or forces, so it's TLGs intention for those sets, and then becomes a matter of inference for all battle packs.

prof1515

Your problem lies in your interpretation of the purpose of these sets. They're "battle packs", not "army building packs".

It should be noted that the official product description for all the current Star Wars battle packs mention "build[ing] up" an army, or troops, or forces, so it's TLGs intention for those sets, and then becomes a matter of inference for all battle packs.

But isn't mentioned on the Pharaoh's Quest and obviously isn't the case with the Pirates of the Caribbean which would therefore make that inference erroneous. ;-)