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10236 Ewok Village
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More info for the rest of 2013
10234 Sydney Opera House €279.99
10235 Winter Village Market €89.99
10236 Star Wars Ewok Village €249.99
:-D
This also means that it will sit nicely along side Death Star and that it is not likely a directly replacement for Death Star.
What it does mean is that a year from now, we might well get "Endor Imperial Base" and that will have the secret entrance, Imperial Shuttle landing platform, and battle scene, and that it is meant to tie together with Ewok Village.
It is a way to sell a $500 set without selling a $500 set, $249 each is more acceptable for a lot of people than a single $500 set.
Just a thought... :)
I'm also going to guess piece counts:
#10234 4800pcs
#10235 1250pcs
#10236 1950pcs
WIth Disney shifting it focus to new TV shows and films from next year i can see the next 18 months being the last time we get major OT or even Prequel focus from lego, yes there will always be a few sets but with this being the 30th Anniversary of Jedi and Disney wanting to put all its marketing eggs in the new films moving forward it would make sense that Lego put out some big OT/Prequel sets now while they can and with Jabba's Palace and Rancor Pit, then the new X-Wing, the upcoming Sail Barge and now the Village they are doing just that :)
I would hope for a bit more, something along the lines of four major tree's all interconnected and opening up, a nice 'camp fire' section the chair for 3PO, netting etc. Maybe an AT-ST or speederbike for a bit of playset value, plenty of Ewok's maybe a rebel trooper or a storm trooper, Luke, Leia, Han etc but most of all a Ghost Yoda, Anakin and Kenobi....
I would be fine with leaving out all Imperial forces. There never was one bit of an Imperial presence when at the village, and an AT-ST would just be pieces that could be put to better use in the village. I also hope we don't get another C3PO, R2-D2, or Chewbacca and instead get more exclusive minifigures. Unless of course they finally redesign Chewie.
For $250, I expect we'll get one of three combinations:
- A very large village with lots of detail with about 10 figs.
- A medium sized village -- something slightly larger than jabba's palace and the rancor pit combined -- with a few play features, about 10 figs and multiple vehicles including an AT-ST, speeder bikes and various Ewok traps.
- A medium sized village around the size of Jabba's Palace and the Rancor Pit with many play features combined with 15+ figs and just a couple of Ewok traps. Count on a speeder bike or two and flickfire missiles.
I think one of the latter is more likely. Bottom line is that LEGO will likely trade the scale of the set (which is what many AFOL would want to see) for more figures and/or play features, which would appeal to kids. I'm still excited -- I think it will be a fun set and go well with the existing Endor stuff.
As for figs, I would not expect rebel soldiers. I do expect Leia, Luke, Threepio at a minimum. Maybe also Han and Chewie (but they aren't critical from my perspective but I would expect LEGO to throw them in). I would guess at least 5 Ewoks - some repeats, some new. There will be some Imperials -- at least a couple of scout troopers because of course we will get more speeder bikes.
There is no way I am paying Death Star money for a teddy bear village which had next to zero impact/scenes of note within the movie.
The Death Star looms large over all the movies, is the backdrop to numerous key scenes (inside and out), many of which became classic movie moments parodied on numerous occasions across mainstream media, and still are.
What happens in Ewok town? Pffft... err... hmm... I suppose C3PO tells a story in a hut... err... hmmm... Luke makes him float in a chair... Leia gets a makeover and then has a bit of a sob. Clearly the stuff of legends that the saga couldn't afford to have happen elsewhere.
This should be a £30-£40 set, £60 at most. There is nothing in wicket street that could justify a £200+ build, beyond bigger and bigger trees, and then, WHY?
I can only assume it will be joined by an imperial landing platform, and the At-At walker... but then, it's not the ewok village any more, and people who have an At At etc will be equally annoyed that to get the ewok-y bits, they have to fork out for another pile of imperial armour.
Cloud City done in Death Star stylee, on the other hand, and we'd be talking.
I just hope they don't drop in an absolute must-have fig into this set, such as a... no, don't say it... they'll do it if I say... *paranoid laugh*
:o)
Also, as a consumer you have the option of not purchasing this set if you feel it doesn't meet your "expectations."
:)
I hear it will even come with flick fire fireworks :)
I actually meant £ (DS money) not $, and couldn't find the euro button, but either way circa 250+ of most currencies seems an unnecessarily large amount for such a bland location (yes, my opinion, but I don't see any arguments against)... tree houses... and... more tree houses... ooh, a rope bridge, that'll break up the monotony.
As for figs, even battle packs have original figs in, so any suggestion of the idea that a new fig must equate to higher costs is just flawed, and besides which a 250+ set should most definitely not be relying on a few new figs to sell it, for this price we should expect a stellar build with multiple functionality/features. I just can't see what an ewok village can possibly provide in this area, beyond more/larger trees and traps.
As princess leia might say "If figs is all that we love, then that's all we'll receive". TLG has, sadly, figured this out, and we now get overpriced piles of guff for builds, and we're letting them off easy, as every time we see a shiney fig to distract us, we go "OOoooooOOoooh, what a great set". No, it's a great fig that you have to buy a stupidly overpriced set to get, and often the only reason the fig is there at all is because the set is sooo naff. Bung in more figs is a poor excuse for a bad/expensive build. But i digress.
It makes me feel they've just decided the price point first, as a replacement for the DS, and anything that follows will then just be an excuse to justify said price... but why the ewok village?
As for consumer choice, actually at such astronomical price point, it is not a simple choice for many people... they're instantly priced out, and personally i don't see the point of alienating great swathes of fans, just to prize a few inflated dollars out of the wealthy. There's just no need for it, and wealthy fans are already catered for with magnificent UCS builds.
I'd prefer a modular approach to builds that could be large so people with moderate to lower incomes could also pick them up over time, or just pick up parts - i'm sure it'd make more money, too.
Sorry if I come across as rather 'short'. I'm just disappointed by the price point and the somewhat unsettling trend for less than value builds being propped up with 'new figs' and 'exclusivity' as the sole excuse for it. Demand better, I say, and get value for your hard earned buck.
@GothamConstructionCo
Yes thanks, now I do. :o)
Yours was the perfect response, made me smile... and all is well with the world again.
:oD
Just to add, if anybody feels in any way offended or targeted by my mini-rant, please don't. It's not meant for anyone, and is just a forum-equivalent of screaming into a pillow at those constantly irritating little things that really bug you but never go away.
I could just go "Another £250 set?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!" but thought putting it into actual words might be better... in hindsight, I might stick to going AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! It's less intensive on the keyboard, and doesn't make text walls. Sorry about that.
:o)
And that's fine, but there are ton of people I know that will be really pumped for this set if it's nothing more than an Ewok village with three or four giant trees. No play features necessary.
Just watch how many likes for a chrome 3po....
Quick way to make a million bucks for about $50 worth of plastic. :)
The bit highlighted in italics, completely wrong and somewhat insulting. :o) I certainly have not decided it will be awful when all we have is a name and price. I just have concerns that price has come first, just for the sake of having a big price set on sale.
It might knock my socks off with how utterly great it is, and I will certainly welcome that (God yes). I'm simply not happy with yet another high-priced Star Wars set, especially if it's a scene that doesn't need to be so expensive OR has to feature a whole bunch of must-have figs to drive sales.
If this proves the case, it places the set (and lots of great figures) out of reach for many, for no genuine reason. The Death Star could not be made smaller, and would be difficult to build from several mid-size builds. An Ewok village however could easily be built up with several Tree/Hut combination builds and would open it up to a wider customer base without denying anybody their fave figs in that particular release.
I think the two follow-up questions you raise are actually perfectly valid.
I think we'd all agree that a set should be worth its asking price, and not just pumped with minifigs. And if they haven't pumped with figs, but have maxed out the build instead, then yes, why choose such a 'boring location' for a large scale centre-piece build. If it is truly limited to the ewok village, what can they actually do with it?
I'm perfectly happy to be surprised, in fact I hope to be. But from the little we know, ('ewok village' at 250+), I'm not holding my breath.
I agree lots of people will be stoked for this set, for many reasons, but I see no reason to be stoked yet when all we have to go on is expensive set.
Maybe i'm in a minority, but dropping 250+ on a single set is a big deal, and i'd prefer TLG to be more wallet friendly with the exclusives.
Anyway, sorry if i've rocked the boat. I didn't mean to. Just my two-pennorth.
:o)
They got DS right, which is perhaps why it continues to sell 5 years after being released. Yes, but that has been done already... There are several Ewok sets done in the past just as you describe. What we are lacking is another large playset like Death Star, something big and epic for those who want... well... big and epic! :) The price point gives LEGO the chance to build something new, something we've never seen before, with detail we've never seen before.
Imagine Republic Dropship done for $120. It could be done, but somehow it would be missing something. If you haven't built it, it really does stand out above the rest of the basic ships. I suppose they could have split it and put AT-OT in one $120 set and Republic Dropship in another $120 set, but having them together, somehow is special. You're not in a minority, the average person is unlikely to buy a $250 LEGO set. However there are dozens of sets released every year under $100, so you have plenty to pick from. Those of us who can afford a $250 set get tossed this type of set once or twice a year.
Some exclusives are indeed smaller, but really they are showcase sets, not meant to move huge volumes, rather meant to be the cream of the crop. Plenty of people admire Death Star, then buy a $100 set instead, which is fine.
But with all due respect and kindness intended... don't knock it just because the price is a lot for you, not everyone is in that position. This forum is not just for people who agree with each other, all opinions are welcome, please keep them coming. :)
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Side note, keep in mind that it is quite likely the other option was a $499 Endor set that had everything in one go. Shield generator, secret entrance, landing platform, mini AT-AT, multiple AT-ST walkers, large battle scene, Ewok village, speeder bike chase...
Imagine your complaints if it was a $500 set! :)
Actually, given all that, it could easily be a $750 set... perhaps we'll actually get 3 Endor playsets over the next 3 years, $250 each, to combine into a huge set. Now that would be pretty darn cool... :)
Then, when they are all out at the same time, LEGO could do a limited numbered edition of all 3 of them in a single box, with a chrome C-3PO tossed in as a limited bonus, for $799 (maybe 10,000 of them), sell them online, 1 to a VIP account.
I'd buy one. :)
Also, though this seems like it's going to be sad for you, I can't imagine any scenario in which the three Jedi spirits aren't in this set... unless they're minifigs that are somehow simply impossible for TLG to produce due to some kind of problem with the transparency.
The real question is - if we get the Jedi spirits, will the Anakin figure be modeled after Sebastian Shaw or Hayden Christensen? And if it's the latter, will he come with an 'undressing Luke with my eyes' face print?
As for the set itself, I have to admit to being conflicted. I'm not one for playsets, I'm more of a buy, build and admire, however if there's the possibility of it being one part of a 3 piece epic, that might be a different story. An Ewok village, landing platform for UCS IS and a Shield Generator that all fit together would look amazing as a big display (assuming my girlfriend would let me display it all!)
Nevertheless I'd still be much happier with other simpler UCS models, A-Wing, Jedi Starfighter (the one from AotC) or a decent effort at the N-1.
I don't subscribe to the notion it is a bland location with little importance to the films and stories.
The entire location of Endor is meant to be symbolic of the little person standing up to the inter galactic bully, the unfettered wild V's the industrialised machine (ripped from the pages of LoTR's really). Sure it might be a hamfisted and simple visual presentation but it is an important message within the SW story.
As for direct importance to the ROTJ I would say seceral key element occur within the Village setting, they may not be battle scenes but they are Important to the overall plot.
1 - the inlistment of the Ewoks as an ally fighting the Empire
2 - Luke's decision to meet his father and then cremation of said father
3 - the apperence of the sprit of Yoda etc, in essence the bringing of balance to the force which is the entire mugfin of the six films
4 - the celebration itself signifying to fall of a tyrannical power
The film is 30 years old now and to most people of a certain age now (I.e. those that might be able to drop said not going to mention it $250 on a 'toy') the visual and emotional draw to a world set within a larger than life forest, living in the trees will always be something of a childhood fantasy (before the discovery of Sam Fox and that poster of a tennis chick anyway :) )
So for me what we are looking at is a set that plays right tot the heart of my childhood and one of the seminal almost iconic SW locations.
What that looks like in lego terms I wait to see, but as said there is plenty of scope in this price bracket for a lot of playability and some cracking figures which appeals to the Lego fan in me. I am sure there will be some imperial elements to amp up the play elements and as a set it will I am sure, look great next to the Endor Bunker set from a few years back.
Already saving for this set now :)
Some continuity would have been nice. Why replace Sebastian Shaw and not Alec Guinness???
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That's why I just stick to Brickset Forums. Everyone has way less snark (usually).
Personally excited EV, though.
Closest thing you might get to it is a velvetine chewy. Its just not possible at this size.
Hasbro gave it a shot in the 12" size and it looked like he was electrocuted.
They could paint the eyes and nose and maybe a few toenail details and highlights maybe, but i think this is the chewy we will have for quite awhile.
Then, when they are all out at the same time, LEGO could do a limited numbered edition of all 3 of them in a single box, with a chrome C-3PO tossed in as a limited bonus, for $799 (maybe 10,000 of them), sell them online, 1 to a VIP account.
I'd buy one. :)
I do hope Lego release another limited edition set like the Falcon sometime in the future, i love Lego and i love limited edition stuff, i love limited edition Lego even more :D
Very jealous to all those that got the LE 10179 back in 2007 >:(
(sorry messed up the quote :D)