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  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Thanks for the heads up on the AT-TE, I bought 2 of those a few days ago, Amazon should adjust that for me... :)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Poochy said:

    Right, I hesitated at 30% off, was hoping it would go down even more :).

    Normally I'd say you were crazy to pass on 30% off 3 weeks before Christmas, but clearly based on the recent discounts, that is now just an average discount.

    I've seen about a dozen sets at or near 50% off today, including several Star Wars sets.

    That's nuts... 47% off Jabba's Palace and Rancor Pit? Yikes! Similar discounts on a number of other sets as well, but none seem to last very long.

    Feels like a fire sale... maybe I need to buy a few fire stations. :)
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,233
    dsdg88 said:

    AT-TE is back in stock. I've been refreshing all day since missing it earlier.

    Thanks for the heads up as I was wanting to get one of those

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Considering what the old AT-TE went for just a year ago, $49 for the new one is a heck of a price.

    That being said, has anyone else noticed how much smaller the new one is compared to the old one?
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Grr..

    It seems there is a price match limit...

    Amazon has been making "exceptions" to their 7 day rule for me all morning...

    28 e-mails in, and they finally contacted me and let me know that for now, no further exceptions will be made "due to the large number of price matching requests that have been made".

    They will continue to honor the 7 day rule. This is specific to me, not to everyone else.

    I understand it... not thrilled about it, but I do understand...

    What is a shame is that they don't enable automatic price matching right from the order page. They do it for some items, like TVs that have a 14 day matching policy, but not for everything. It would save them a ton of work to simply have a 14 day policy across the board and allow you to go in and request auto-price match right from the order information page on their web site.

    Think of the staff time to answer all those price match e-mails!
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,233
    edited December 2013

    Considering what the old AT-TE went for just a year ago, $49 for the new one is a heck of a price.

    That being said, has anyone else noticed how much smaller the new one is compared to the old one?

    I dunno about the new gunship but I believe the Sail Barge is also smaller than the previous one.
    I'm not surprised though. LEGO realized that people will buy sets for SW even though they are smaller and will change more and will continue to do this until people stop buying them.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    In fairness, the old sail barge was "old school" in terms of instructions and design.

    I bought one a year ago, before hearing about the new one. After getting 1/3 the way through the instructions, I couldn't finish it, the instructions are terrible.

    Frankly, most sets more than 3 years old have a noticeable drop-off in instruction quality, in my personal opinion.

    7675 and 7676 weren't too bad, but 6210 was just not fun to build. Maybe I'm spoiled by the new stuff, but the 6xxx series of Star Wars sets is just too old.
  • SquareSideSquareSide Member Posts: 170
    My wallet needs to catch up if I'm gonna even think to buy Attack of the Clones Sets. xD
  • samiam391samiam391 A log cabin in PA, United StatesMember Posts: 4,395
    Personally, I much preferred 6210 over the new one.

    As far as price, I think it's easy to look at the sail price of $72 (while still good) and think it is incredible, when really.. it isn't. 6210 was marked at $75 for 781 pieces, while 75020 is marked at $120 for 850 pieces. With most of surplus pieces going into making the nose of the barge, which in my opinion looks disastrous. I realize that many things contribute to the higher price, new molds, new pieces, inflation, etc.. however I still don't think it is justified.

    I definitely think that LEGO is going the way of over pricing some of their sets, and then putting them on decent "discounts" that really aren't that great of discounts... but rather these are prices that they would have normally charged for the set.

    That being said, I won't argue with the 40% off they went with today, that discount was severe enough to make it more of a bargain.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Yes, but what will a new-in-box 6210 cost you today vs. a new-in-box 75020?

    That is the real question, because while 6210 was good for its day, that day was awhile ago. :)

    All I'm saying is that considering what a new-in-box 6210 costs today (or even a year ago), the new one for $72 is not a bad deal.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    samiam391 said:

    That being said, I won't argue with the 40% off they went with today, that discount was severe enough to make it more of a bargain.

    Multiple Star Wars sets were 45-50% off this morning...

    Whatever you might say about "marking them up to discount them", and you're correct in saying it, marking them down to 50% off wasn't the idea I don't think.

    Jabba's Palace was $66 this morning on Amazon. Nuts! Even more so considering it is now sold out and gone and the price is right up to retail.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409

    My wallet needs to catch up if I'm gonna even think to buy Attack of the Clones Sets. xD

    My bank called me today wanting to know why I had all these multiple pending charges... :)

    While I cleared that up, I'm sure it looks funny to their fraud dept.
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    ^ Speaking of which, I was pretty sure I wasn't going to buy much this year, trying to give myself an exit from this madness...

    Then Amazon goes and starts marking sets 40% off...

    What is a deal person supposed to do? :)
  • FenrisAkashiFenrisAkashi Member Posts: 242
    Helms Deeps are now selling out from 3rd party vendors for more than RRP...Sigh, Oh well ;D

    ^Unplug your internet and RUNNNN for the hills...so many good deals.
    Broke down and Ordered a Eradicator Mech just because I thought it looked like a cool build...
  • CircleKCircleK U.S. - Columbus, OhioMember Posts: 1,055

    Grr..

    It seems there is a price match limit...

    Amazon has been making "exceptions" to their 7 day rule for me all morning...

    28 e-mails in, and they finally contacted me and let me know that for now, no further exceptions will be made "due to the large number of price matching requests that have been made".

    They will continue to honor the 7 day rule. This is specific to me, not to everyone else.

    I understand it... not thrilled about it, but I do understand...

    What is a shame is that they don't enable automatic price matching right from the order page. They do it for some items, like TVs that have a 14 day matching policy, but not for everything. It would save them a ton of work to simply have a 14 day policy across the board and allow you to go in and request auto-price match right from the order information page on their web site.

    Think of the staff time to answer all those price match e-mails!

    First of all - I have zero complaints with Amazon's customer service today. I requested 5 adjustments to purchases made within the last week or so and they honored them all. It wasn't huge but $35 bucks is $35 bucks and I was a happy customer.

    While I appreciate the service, I also expect it. Price adjustments on recently purchased items (ones within the return period) is a standard service and a one week window really isn't that long. I get price adjustments at brick and mortars for items two and three weeks out all the time. Again, I really appreciate the service but I don't feel like Amazon is going above and beyond here.

  • RainingBoroSi02RainingBoroSi02 NCMember Posts: 59
    I'm now money poor, but Lego rich.
    Dougout
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited December 2013
    I can't help but think that Amazon is trying to school Lego in the art of retail.

    Anybody need a bear? :)
    pharmjod
  • JP3804JP3804 Member Posts: 332
    ^I have been carrying bear spray for a week now just to get in the house. ;-)
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 873
    Man - I shudder to think at the price I paid for some sets earlier this year and/or use of VIP points on sets at full price. Never expected so many new sets to be discounted this quickly or this deeply.
    red237
  • legogregorslegogregors Member Posts: 402
    These are the kind of discounts I was looking for the day after Xmas 2012 so what will we see this year?
    pharmjod
  • margotmargot Member Posts: 2,310

    Man - I shudder to think at the price I paid for some sets earlier this year and/or use of VIP points on sets at full price. Never expected so many new sets to be discounted this quickly or this deeply.

    I know!!!
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    edited December 2013
    Well I bought the AT-TE. I'm not sure why as I find it rather ugly. I guess I need something for my Gunship to fight. I'm not even an Episode 2 fan though I like the final battle scenes. It was to me the closest Lucas got to capturing the essence of those Ralph McQuarrie paintings from the original trilogy.

  • clickdastardlyclickdastardly United StatesMember Posts: 14
    ^mathew - same here. I think it's ugly, but I gave in and got one for 45% off!!
  • starwarfan77starwarfan77 Member Posts: 341
    seems like noone wants #7939 @139.99 from amazon :P
  • korkor Member Posts: 392
    Every time I check this forum I spend money! TRU's bogo 50% worked out great on the new Hobbit sets since they weren't marked up and now I just dropped another chunk of change with amazon. God help me if any more sales pop up!
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 873
    I just can't get excited about #7939.

    And for those that bought from Amazon today -- hopefully you did so with your Amex after having registered your card for $25 off. So add that to your savings :)
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,979
    Seriously, I had to take a break from reading here today. The sheer number of Lego sales this week and especially today has been insane.

    I ended up buying the Ninjago Temple of Light set at 42% off.

  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    tamamahm said:

    The sheer number of Lego sales this week and especially today has been insane.

    ^ This, times 10...

    I posted a week or so ago that I felt this season had FAR more discounting than the past few years. Some seemed to agree, others felt it wasn't that big.

    I guess the question is, after the past week, does anyone disagree anymore that this has been, by far, the greatest LEGO discounting pre-Christmas in years?

    When is the last time Star Wars sets have been 45+% off Black Friday weekend? Mainline sets like Jabba's Palace and new sets like AT-TE Walker?

    25% off is one thing, 30% is great... a half dozen Star Wars sets were > 45% off the past 2 days. That is nuts!

    Just my 2 cents...
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    BTW, anyone want an Amazon bear? ;)
  • LegoFanTexasLegoFanTexas TexasMember Posts: 8,409
    Just taking another look at this morning's Amazon discounts...

    A few items are still really good deals but now it appears that most of the items in this thread are sold out from Amazon...

    Most will be restocked at various points during December, but maybe not at the same prices...

    Crazy deals...
  • cloaked7cloaked7 Member Posts: 1,448
    Huge discounts, yes. Huge, very huge.

    So, how is that no discount policy on exclusives working for LEGO?

    Sure, if allowed they would have been part of all of the recent 'activity', but as it is they are like the player sitting on the bench saying 'Put me in coach!' :-) Who has the time, money, or desire to buy exclusives when so many sets are 40+% off? Not me!
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    ^ I'm guessing people who still want the exclusives? If you want a Palace Cinema you're not very likely to buy a Coast Guard boat because its reduced. People may buy fewer sets for parts, no doubt they'll loose a few sales where people do choose a couple of big reduced sets instead of a modular, but really they're like chalk and cheese.
  • lordzaraklordzarak OH, United StatesMember Posts: 329
    edited December 2013
    Modulars are not exactly on the sidelines. I bought the Pet Shop and Grand Emporium over the past couple weeks thanks to TRU/FAO's 7347 bundle deal. I expect more deals like that as the season continues.
  • iancam33iancam33 Member Posts: 407
    ^me too. I'd love another Palace cinema
    FollowsClosely
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    edited December 2013
    lordzarak said:

    Modulars are not exactly on the sidelines. I bought the Pet Shop and Grand Emporium over the past couple weeks thanks to TRU/FAO's 7347 bundle deal. I expect more deals like that as the season continues.

    The point is, would you have bought them without TRU working some discount magic on the non discounted exclusives like that? (a loophole I would expect Lego to try and abolish soon). The answer for many has been no, which means yeah, they have been sitting on the sidelines for months now.
  • cheshirecatcheshirecat Member Posts: 5,332
    I'd be interested to know how many people here have altered their buying habbits when not buying for parts or resale? The US situation is now as we've had for years (although ironically its just changed) with exclusives largely undiscounted and other Lego regularly 30% or more off. The exclusives still sold over here.
  • TheLoneTensorTheLoneTensor MericaMember Posts: 3,950
    Unfortunately without seeing the spreadsheets that none of us will ever have access to, we can only rely on our personal habits and speculation as per the various posts/polls on forums like this.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,233
    LEGO 7938 Passenger train on sale now for 97.49
  • lordzaraklordzarak OH, United StatesMember Posts: 329
    ^ Thanks! That makes it 25% off, just shy of the Black Friday lightning deal of 30%. I think I'll wait for the full 30%.

    ^^^^ I probably would not have bought the modulars from anyone without a deal.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,233
    I was just thinking imagine if the exclusives were on sale this year as well. But I'm guessing that, like others have speculated, this may be a partly a response to Exclusives being off limits from sales.
  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,979

    I was just thinking imagine if the exclusives were on sale this year as well. But I'm guessing that, like others have speculated, this may be a partly a response to Exclusives being off limits from sales.

    Is it a response, OR was it the new deal that Lego came up with to the retailers? (i.e. Was this a consequence that Lego never consider, or was this their plan?)

    The reality is the people they want buying Lego is that kid base. That is where their volumes are, so why not discount and drive on that side instead of the reseller and high end side?

    Now, I could strongly argue it may cheapen the overall brand and actually may have a large reverse impact as people now may expect 'cheap' Lego.

    It is a very interesting change, and I'm not sure yet if this is a true change, is part of a poor buying cycle, and thus a ton of deals out there this year, or what.


  • rocaorocao Administrator Posts: 4,290


    Does anyone else recall Amazon doing this level of discounts on LEGO?
    ...
    Anyone else see that as new and a bit odd?

    The levels of the discount are new, but it's not odd. Amazon has always focused more on cash flow than profit margin. With their businesses maturing, their growth rate continues to be phenomenal, thereby allowing them to continue to discount deeper and deeper.

    No doubt in response to TLG's new stipulation on the pricing of exclusives. It would not surprise me in the least if Amazon clears out what they have and decide not to re-up with lego products.

    I don't follow this logic. Companies will do things out of spite, but it's usually aimed at competitors. TLG and the retailers have a mutually beneficial relationship. Would they deeply discount their own inventory and forgo profits just to thumb their nose about price maintenance on exclusives instead of just stop ordering? That doesn't seem likely to be what's happening here. It just looks like stimulating sales and aggressively competing with other retailers to me.

  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,979
    Right. the aggresive competition is insane this year.

    Walmart threw down the gauntlet, and Amazon said, "Uh, not happening.", and Target decided to get in on the action as well.

    Since prices have never really been like this, though, despite the recession, I do have to wonder what selling stipulations Lego had with retailers before and the changes now.

  • margotmargot Member Posts: 2,310

    LEGO 7938 Passenger train on sale now for 97.49

    Thank you, I was waiting for this!

  • ObserverObserver Member Posts: 60
    Amazon is losing to Target for me these days since sales tax has been effectively applied at the time of my purchases instead of paying them on the tail end like a good tax payer should.
  • madforLEGOmadforLEGO Chicagoland USMember Posts: 10,233
    margot said:

    LEGO 7938 Passenger train on sale now for 97.49

    Thank you, I was waiting for this!

    You are welcome.

    I was waiting for it too. I was not tempted at all for one at 112, but for 97 and change it is a good deal. Ill still keep another in my cart though to ensure it does not drop again.
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    I agree with Cheshire. As an AFOL I much rather get my Lego fix with a large Exclusive set. The problem with these "fire sales" is that inevitably you end up buying sets that you don't even want. And since Amazon charges return shipping, it's not always smart to jump on the band wagon.
  • hoyatableshoyatables Northern Virginia, USAMember Posts: 873
    ^ I disagree. Although I generally prefer the large exclusive sets, now that I have a baby I don't have the time for large sets and soon I will have trouble finding places to display them without innocent interference. So I actually now appreciate the smaller and mid-sized builds, which I can put together over the course of a nap or two on a weekend and quickly disassemble and store.

    Plus I'll be far more likely to turn over the smaller sets for play when my daughter is a little older :).
    GoldfreekTheLoneTensorchuckpCircleK
  • mathewmathew Member Posts: 2,098
    I have young kids too. I agree that having a some "disposable" sets are good to have for them to build with. However after the kids are asleep I prefer big sets.
  • ColoradoBricksColoradoBricks Denver, CO, USAMember Posts: 1,674
    If you can learn how to feed the bottle to the baby with one arm, you can also learn to build with one arm :)
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